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[IndigoWolfe]

Okay yeah, very cool and very mass effect. It looks good on Liara too (no surprise there). Even more so were it to incorporate the green and white color scheme Bioware have set up for her design

[IndigoWolfe]

General Stubbs wrote...
I am proud to love Liara. <3:wub:

Heck yes.

[JPfanner]

vigna wrote...

Just finished my new femshep ME1 playthrough. wow, I love femsheps smile when she emerges from the rubble after beating the tar out of zombie cyborg Saren. Finally a new loyal Liara import for ME2.

As I've discussed before I sort of ruined my first ME2 play through because I never read issue 1 or got the dialogue wheel tree. I thought Liara had left me for a new "friend".....I was so pissed....Well, now to rectify that mistake.

It's hardly your fault for not having the comic when you started playing or for missing that disappearing dialog choice.  The first time through that is a really rough scene to go through with all the confusion over what you can't do and trying to squeeze meaning out of what is said.  Hell, I'm still confused by it.

[Yeled]

Corti78 wrote...

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

So, where was it said that there will be substantial, story-driven DLC in the works for ME2? The GDC is only a few days away, so I hope it's confirmed there as being Liara's content.

An interview released a week or so before ME2 launched. They mentioned they will be making story DLC to bridge ME2 to ME3 eventually.

Found the link:

http://multiplayerbl...-between-games/

Thanks for that link, Corti.  Its good to know that story driven dlc is something they definitely plan to do.  I know we've all been talking about it but I hadn't seen it confirmed before.

Does anyone have a link to where they said some dlc would tie directly in to Redemption?

[Yeled]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

That piece of dialogue is so easy to miss for a reason. The fact that it hasn't been patched yet, if it were a bug, says it all. Seems like BioWare were really trying to avoid spoilers for Redemption as much as possible. Once Redemption has concluded and we get the DLC, I think there will be alot more emotional and romantic conversation with Liara.

I missed it as well.  It was only because people on this thread (or maybe it was the previous incarnation of this thread) pointed me to that dialogue choice that I even became aware of its existence at all.  My main shep didn't get to hear it at all.  I was about 20 hours past that scene when I learned about it.  I had to play a previous save (I always save right before I go to meet Liara) to see it, but I didn't continue from that save.

[jlb524]

I missed that dialog option as well. When I go through the 'Investigate' dialog wheel options, I always start at the top and work my way down. I picked the top option first which kills the conversation for some reason. I totally missed the bottom option!

[JPfanner]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

That piece of dialogue is so easy to miss for a reason. The fact that it hasn't been patched yet, if it were a bug, says it all. Seems like BioWare were really trying to avoid spoilers for Redemption as much as possible. Once Redemption has concluded and we get the DLC, I think there will be alot more emotional and romantic conversation with Liara.

I think it is just a really low patch priority, like how the status on some of the imported side missions are still screwed up.  Have they came out with a patch for the Xbox at all yet?  Redemption #1 was out weeks before the game and was included in the Collector's Edition of the game.  There are still things in ME1 that were screwed up and never fixed, not even optionally snuck in on DLC.
I don't understand why it isn't a higher priority to fix myself, even aside from my personal Liara bias.  Without the comic or that line from Liara, Shepard's knowledge of events goes like; "I died, Cerberus reanimated me."  With that line it then becomes; "I died, the Shadow Broker recovered my body and was selling me to the Collectors, Liara personally rescued my body, and then Cerberus reanimated me."

[vigna]

I've still yet to point a gun at Conrad....but i apparently did.

[JaylaClark]

JPfanner wrote...

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

That piece of dialogue is so easy to miss for a reason. The fact that it hasn't been patched yet, if it were a bug, says it all. Seems like BioWare were really trying to avoid spoilers for Redemption as much as possible. Once Redemption has concluded and we get the DLC, I think there will be alot more emotional and romantic conversation with Liara.

I think it is just a really low patch priority, like how the status on some of the imported side missions are still screwed up.  Have they came out with a patch for the Xbox at all yet?  Redemption #1 was out weeks before the game and was included in the Collector's Edition of the game.  There are still things in ME1 that were screwed up and never fixed, not even optionally snuck in on DLC.
I don't understand why it isn't a higher priority to fix myself, even aside from my personal Liara bias.  Without the comic or that line from Liara, Shepard's knowledge of events goes like; "I died, Cerberus reanimated me."  With that line it then becomes; "I died, the Shadow Broker recovered my body and was selling me to the Collectors, Liara personally rescued my body, and then Cerberus reanimated me."

There was clearly a patch of some sort; when I popped in the disk for the first time (after a month of the game being out -- I was low on cash at the release date), it did the "There is a new version" spiel at me.  But yeah, I'd be amazed if they got to that being available first -- or are they being annoying and saying 'well if we want to help her we don't question why she's doing it, right?'; they might be thinking that way.  Still, considering that I never had the pleasure of making Conrad wet his pants and all yet the game pretty much locks the 'big jerk' option in... and someone scanned the flags sent over from ME1 games and noticed that it's the first game ticking that flag wrong... but still, that's a pretty significant break with immersion, I think, and I'd actually rather they try and fix that.  If at all possible. 

I mean, people who find that dialogue so meaningful will go back to fix it when they find out, like I did.  (Hear that, Liara?  I redid Tali's recruitment, the Collector base, and oh yeah, pretty much everyone's loyalty mission, just to hear the real you .  I even screwed up Zaeed's, though I'm about as shaken as ... something that isn't.)  So it's not as significant as the other things.  My earlier idea about an extra dialogue option for love interests -- and possibly some more emotion from non-LI's on the already available option -- I'd like to think that's another story, because it's adding in something that a) can't spoil the comics, can't possibly spoil whatever DLC there is, and c) increases immersion and believability for us Liaramancers.  (Oh, and I really do think there should be a Kelly comment and an interruptible Joker joke -- the interrupt would just be a Look, of course, no reason to smack Joker on the head and break 'em even if he IS rude .)

[JPfanner]

I immediately reloaded several times and did the whole run through the hacking missions for her each time trying to see what I'd missed since it didn't make much sense. So that's the only reason I noticed the kiss, whispering, and that dialog before continuing on. I still didn't pick any of the argumentative or confrontational dialog choices though, or refuse to do what she asked. Liara has me on a short leash : )

[AndroLeonidas]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

You know, I have read alot of people's comments that when they found out about the hidden Liara dialogue, have gone back several missions just so that they could hear it. That's dedication for us Liara lovers. ;-)

I did!! Like five times in the same 30 minute period! lol!

[vigna]

JPfanner wrote...

 Liara has me on a short leash : )

 
And every dog has their day....soon, my friends, soon.

[Shadowcat101]

Did I really miss something? I thought I get everything she said. Has anyone got the full script of what she says written down?

[AndroLeonidas]

Shadowcat101 wrote...

Did I really miss something? I thought I get everything she said. Has anyone got the full script of what she says written down?

Not unless you didn't hear her tell you how she gave you to Cerberus. Then you missed it.

[Shadowcat101]

Oh, Yes, i got that. Poor girl. Mush have been a hard choice. She was with me at every Cerberus Base we took out in the first game.

[IndigoWolfe]

I really must say I have mixed feelings about any Liara DLC, regardless of whether Bioware will do any or not. On the one hand you have the oppertunity to really have Liara's character shine and to give the people who romanced her either an entire dedicated scene where Shepard and Liara talk about their relationship or just some freakin' unique dialogue for cryin out loud! And then on the other hand you have the inherent optionality of DLC. It would stand to reason that Bioware wouldn't stake the quality of the overarching Liara romance on everybody being able to get the DLC. There are some people who just can't access it, I myself have only in the past few months have been able to get any DLC. If patterns hold true from Mass Effects one and two, there would be very little difference between the versions of the people who got the DLC and those who did not aside from a small mention made in passing.

That is unless Bioware have the DLC take place specifically after the Suicide Mission. They could have the DLC have multiple endings, and have a default ending set for people who either did not get or did not play the DLC before importing their Shepard into Mass Effect 3. That might work. If any Liara DLC has more content than the previous packs, then it's more likely that it would be the case. Now, as much as I personally would like to see it, I doubt that Bioware will make a DLC expansion the size of Awakening dedicated to Liara and Shepard's relationship with her. The reason for this being that Bioware has, in my experience, not outright taken a specific side when it comes to the romances. While it might still be inferred by some that the romance with Liara is the one Bioware had in mind for the overarching story --with the fact that she is romancable regardless of Shepard's gender and the comic series centering around her going to great lengths to save Shepard--  I don't think they would send a more obvious message like a huge Liara DLC romance expansion.

This is of course assuming that there is actually going to be Liara DLC in any way shape or form.

What if it's actually be Thane Pole Dancing DLC for the Captain's Cabin? Then I think I'd just have to kill myself.

[Venusyl]

I agree. Give our Liara as Squadmember and LI at ME3 -and give ME3 as quickly as possible - . I like her and well she is not kind a "Broker" 

Modifié par Venusyl, 06 mars 2010 - 11:04 .

[vigna]

I'm firmly convinced Cerberus is trying to torture me with that Liara picture on my desk.

[Nozybidaj]

IndigoWolfe wrote...

I really must say I have mixed feelings about any Liara DLC, regardless of whether Bioware will do any or not. On the one hand you have the oppertunity to really have Liara's character shine and to give the people who romanced her either an entire dedicated scene where Shepard and Liara talk about their relationship or just some freakin' unique dialogue for cryin out loud! And then on the other hand you have the inherent optionality of DLC. It would stand to reason that Bioware wouldn't stake the quality of the overarching Liara romance on everybody being able to get the DLC. There are some people who just can't access it, I myself have only in the past few months have been able to get any DLC. If patterns hold true from Mass Effects one and two, there would be very little difference between the versions of the people who got the DLC and those who did not aside from a small mention made in passing.

That is unless Bioware have the DLC take place specifically after the Suicide Mission. They could have the DLC have multiple endings, and have a default ending set for people who either did not get or did not play the DLC before importing their Shepard into Mass Effect 3. That might work. If any Liara DLC has more content than the previous packs, then it's more likely that it would be the case. Now, as much as I personally would like to see it, I doubt that Bioware will make a DLC expansion the size of Awakening dedicated to Liara and Shepard's relationship with her. The reason for this being that Bioware has, in my experience, not outright taken a specific side when it comes to the romances. While it might still be inferred by some that the romance with Liara is the one Bioware had in mind for the overarching story --with the fact that she is romancable regardless of Shepard's gender and the comic series centering around her going to great lengths to save Shepard--  I don't think they would send a more obvious message like a huge Liara DLC romance expansion.

This is of course assuming that there is actually going to be Liara DLC in any way shape or form.

What if it's actually be Thane Pole Dancing DLC for the Captain's Cabin? Then I think I'd just have to kill myself.

Well I think most of us are hoping that it will be a paid boxed expansion with multiple hours of content instead of just a DLC mission pack.  That makes it better and worse for folks who can't get DLC I suppose.  Also, yes most of us expect at least the bulk of it to take place post suicide mission.

As for favoring Liara?  I don't think it will "center" on the romance but more so on Liara's story and taking out the SB though it damn well better include plenty of romance content for those who do have her as an LI.   The SB story should make it marektable to all players without a specific romance notion though.

In the end, we have no idea yet what it will or will not be, I for one am hopeful that BW will do their best to make it epic and worthwhile.  It would certainly go a long way to soothing the disappointment from not having her in ME2.