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Support Liara T'Soni for ME3 - Squadmate and LI

Débuté par Nozybidaj , févr. 18 2010 08:42

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Posté 12 juin 2010 - 09:49

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@ELE08 Great screenshot, I love it! As was said yesterday, action poses of Liara are awesome and I like that particular one. Thanks for sharing.



@CM Beautifully written letter, I myself have considered writing what I imagine was the correspondence between Shepard and Liara during the events of ME2. I imagine Shepard would say something similar to that to Liara prior to travelling through the Omega 4 relay. Sad, and very poignant.



@MDK The lineart looks great! Can't wait to see the finished version. I like the screenshot of Liara in the formal Alliance attire too. Very nice.

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Posté 12 juin 2010 - 09:55

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I finished my replay of Mass Effect 1....I love Liara (not that I didn't love her before).



Let's pray BioWare will announce Liara-themed DLC on the E3.

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Posté 12 juin 2010 - 10:04

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Chief Martini wrote...

I finished my replay of Mass Effect 1....I love Liara (not that I didn't love her before).

Let's pray BioWare will announce Liara-themed DLC on the E3.


Hear hear.

When you play ME1 again after a long period of not doing so, I find that you fall in love with Liara all over again. I adore her!

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Posté 12 juin 2010 - 10:15

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Chief Martini wrote...

I finished my replay of Mass Effect 1....I love Liara (not that I didn't love her before).

Let's pray BioWare will announce Liara-themed DLC on the E3.


Hear hear.

When you play ME1 again after a long period of not doing so, I find that you fall in love with Liara all over again. I adore her!


Well something big for ME will be announced at E3.*cross's fingers*

Oh and Les I have emailed Drew, when he emails me back I will pm you all the characters has has written.

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Posté 12 juin 2010 - 10:22

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Thanks kraidy. I'm curious as to which characters DK has written in addition to Liara.



Can't wait until E3, I remain confident that we'll hear something regarding the Liara DLC!

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Posté 12 juin 2010 - 10:23

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Thanks kraidy. I'm curious as to which characters DK has written in addition to Liara.

Can't wait until E3, I remain confident that we'll hear something regarding the Liara DLC!


I know the characters he has written in his books and they are flat, Liara however is not, liara is a well-writen character and so lovely :wub:

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Chief Martini
Posté 12 juin 2010 - 11:22

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What are you guys talking about? Liara book?

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Marcin K
Posté 12 juin 2010 - 11:25

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the 1 series:)

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Posté 12 juin 2010 - 12:19

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I think Redemption would have been alot better had it been a novel in a similar vein to Ascension, rather than a comic book. That way, the story and Liara in particular would have received the exposition and descriptive writing regarding her emotions, thoughts and motives that I feel was necessary and should have been elaborated upon, something that Redemption sorely lacked.



Having the entire story and plot included in-game would have been ideal of course, as that way Liara and her actions could have been altered to suit each player's individual Shepards, including whether she was romanced or not. But if they wanted to farm out the story to a different medium, then a novel would have been best.

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Erinlana
Posté 12 juin 2010 - 12:30

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Hi Guys ^_^

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Marcin K
Posté 12 juin 2010 - 12:34

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hey erin

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Posté 12 juin 2010 - 12:36

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Hi Marcin , Whats been going on In the Liara Thread recently :D ?

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Posté 12 juin 2010 - 12:43

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

I think Redemption would have been alot better had it been a novel in a similar vein to Ascension, rather than a comic book. That way, the story and Liara in particular would have received the exposition and descriptive writing regarding her emotions, thoughts and motives that I feel was necessary and should have been elaborated upon, something that Redemption sorely lacked.

Having the entire story and plot included in-game would have been ideal of course, as that way Liara and her actions could have been altered to suit each player's individual Shepards, including whether she was romanced or not. But if they wanted to farm out the story to a different medium, then a novel would have been best.


Book wise, I don't think that's possible, since she can't even talk about Shepard besides "I knew Shepard" and "I was apart of Shepard's squad." You could never write He or She. You could never say Shepard was good or bad. You can never say if Shepard gave a damn about her. You could never even say Shepard killed the council. And you can't even say if Shepard was black, asian, indian, or white. Thus, you could never truly explore her feelings, because Shepard's just "Shepard, a person I care about."

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Posté 12 juin 2010 - 12:46

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Book wise, I don't think that's possible, since she can't even talk about Shepard besides "I knew Shepard" and "I was apart of Shepard's squad." You could never write He or She. You could never say Shepard was good or bad. You can never say if Shepard gave a damn about her. You could never even say Shepard killed the council. And you can't even say if Shepard was black, asian, indian, or white. Thus, you could never truly explore her feelings, because Shepard's just "Shepard, a person I care about."


That's true...Revelation and Ascension worked because Shepard isn't featured at all, and the decisions and their effects made in-game are virtually absent. I suppose Redemption worked because the dialogue was so minimalistic.

I still feel that it would have been best to include it in-game, though.

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Posté 12 juin 2010 - 12:54

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Actually, they could have kept Liara's references to Shepard's actions, her relationship with Shepard, the effects of Shepard's actions the character of Commander Shepard itself as suitably vague, but still expanded on Liara's feelings of guilt for handing over the corpse to Cerberus, and Liara's fear that Shepard will hate her, and disclose her full motives for hunting the Shadow Broker. This was all something that was sorely lacking in Redemption.

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Posté 12 juin 2010 - 01:07

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Even if acknowledging Liara loved Shepard, her feelings being returned or not and the difference it would make on her character would be too big to write in a book from Liara´s POV, and having her as supporting would be weird. It´s only going to be worse if the ME universe keeps expanding with no fixed canon. Next novel probably won´t acknowledge whether the galaxy is close to the Federation or the Galactic Empire from the save the Council decision (default ME2 citadel was something to see, if the reapers don´t arrive soon they´ll have half the job done).

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Posté 12 juin 2010 - 01:11

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TMA LIVE wrote...

BIOWARE: Hmm... That's... a bit unhealthy....

MICROSOFT: It also means we wasted $$$ on romance scenes....

EA: Yeah, can't have that.

BIOWARE: Oh well... I guess we'll have to have you cheat on LET... It's the only way.

LIARA: I understand... Who should I sleep with?

BIOWARE: Well, someone suggested the Illusive Man.


Any chance that you are talking about me? :whistle:

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Posté 12 juin 2010 - 01:16

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

Book wise, I don't think that's possible, since she can't even talk about Shepard besides "I knew Shepard" and "I was apart of Shepard's squad." You could never write He or She. You could never say Shepard was good or bad. You can never say if Shepard gave a damn about her. You could never even say Shepard killed the council. And you can't even say if Shepard was black, asian, indian, or white. Thus, you could never truly explore her feelings, because Shepard's just "Shepard, a person I care about."


That's true...Revelation and Ascension worked because Shepard isn't featured at all, and the decisions and their effects made in-game are virtually absent. I suppose Redemption worked because the dialogue was so minimalistic.

I still feel that it would have been best to include it in-game, though.


I thought of doing a video project, in which i hacked assets from the game, and re-told Redemption in short episodes, but it was too expensive. Thus, I might do a re-telling in fanfic form.

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Posté 12 juin 2010 - 01:34

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That was the problem with having Redemption be so vague and ambiguous. It left alot of Liara fans unsatisified and deeply frustrated, which really did reach boiling point when issue 4 was released. It had to be completely romance neutral because it's necessary to fit it into the story of every single Shepard.

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Posté 12 juin 2010 - 01:47

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so quiet here today,...

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Posté 12 juin 2010 - 01:51

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I will rectify this.



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Dancing Liara!! SQUEEEEE!!!!

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Posté 12 juin 2010 - 01:55

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Alright, I thought I was going to be gone today, since my older brother is graduating, but it turns out I have to stay home to take care of a younger sister who ain't feeling so good.



But this means I can finish up the lineart for my upcoming artwork. It's almost ready to be inked, I just need to fill in some details.



Can anyone supply me with good reference of the lower half of Liara's Normandy outfit?

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Posté 12 juin 2010 - 01:57

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Lizardviking wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

BIOWARE: Hmm... That's... a bit unhealthy....

MICROSOFT: It also means we wasted $$$ on romance scenes....

EA: Yeah, can't have that.

BIOWARE: Oh well... I guess we'll have to have you cheat on LET... It's the only way.

LIARA: I understand... Who should I sleep with?

BIOWARE: Well, someone suggested the Illusive Man.


Any chance that you are talking about me? :whistle:


Now now, my good Norseman, let it be.

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Posté 12 juin 2010 - 02:00

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