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[Stormy-B]

@Systemlord Baal

Illium and on missions she should wear armor. I can't let her go out fighting with me in casual clothes....I'm protective that way

"The galaxy can be a dangerous place"

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

If you ask if it's an in-game armor then no. But if you read the comic, then you will know how it looks like.



The best way i can describe it is that it's the middle ground between light armor and medium armor you find in ME1.



It's light but looks protective enough to save her from a bullet should her barriers fail.

[Stormy-B]

@Lizardviking Well I meant more in the whole franchise with comics and books and whatnot. So I guess that you can say that in the ME universe it exists? And in that case it would make sense that she would use it in ME3.

I havent read the comics, getting around to it though

Modifié par Stormy-B, 13 juin 2010 - 12:20 .

[Marcin K]

 

[WilliamShatner]

Stormy-B wrote...

@ Lizardviking is Redemption Armor something existing? Otherwise it sounds like a great bonus to unlock for gaining Liaras loyalty in ME3.

What in the name of sweet Jesus would we need to gain Liara's loyalty?!?!?!!!?!!?!?!?!!?!?

?

[jtav]

For the same reason you had to gain Garrus' and Tali's? I don't think the loyalty mechanic will be back though. I expect ME3 to be far more plot focused.

[IndigoWolfe]

jlb524 wrote...

Chief Martini wrote...

IndigoWolfe wrote...

It's mine, actually. Here i905.photobucket.com/albums/ac252/IndigoVolfe/Lepardsig2.jpg

Thanks a lot!

Can you tell me how to put it in my sig please?

I should add that sig to mine for the lulz.

Being mocked is not something I particularly appriciate.

[IndigoWolfe]

Lizardviking wrote...


Because I feel like posting a screenshot!



And you can't stop me!

You would happen to have taken this yourself, would you?

[bjdbwea]

jtav wrote...

For the same reason you had to gain Garrus' and Tali's? I don't think the loyalty mechanic will be back though. I expect ME3 to be far more plot focused.

I certainly hope so. I found the whole thing ridiculous. The missions themselves mostly worked well enough, but one single mission, and suddenly they're "loyal?" And before, they were not "loyal"? What does "loyal" even mean? Oh right, they paint their clothes, and they are kind enough not to die randomly. A loyalty / influence system is great, but not a dumbed down and meaningless "switch" like that. So I'm not against having to gain Liara's loyalty (again), but I certainly hope it'd be done properly. Or just do without it like in ME 1, the game worked well enough as it was.

I also would very much prefer if progress in the romances were again tied to progress in the main story. I think it makes for a much better flow.

[IndigoWolfe]

bjdbwea wrote...

jtav wrote...

For the same reason you had to gain Garrus' and Tali's? I don't think the loyalty mechanic will be back though. I expect ME3 to be far more plot focused.

I certainly hope so. I found the whole thing ridiculous. The missions themselves mostly worked well enough, but one single mission, and suddenly they're "loyal?" And before, they were not "loyal"? What does "loyal" even mean? Oh right, they paint their clothes, and they are kind enough not to die randomly. A loyalty / influence system is great, but not a dumbed down and meaningless "switch" like that. So I'm not against having to gain Liara's loyalty (again), but I certainly hope it'd be done properly.

The "switch" to the loyalty missions was not so specifically about gaining the squad mate's "loyalty" per se, it was about removing distractions that might affect their state of mind, to make sure they are entirely focused on the mission. If they aren't, then it would make sense they would slip up, especially in a mission like that.

[TMA LIVE]

bjdbwea wrote...

jtav wrote...

For the same reason you had to gain Garrus' and Tali's? I don't think the loyalty mechanic will be back though. I expect ME3 to be far more plot focused.

I certainly hope so. I found the whole thing ridiculous. The missions themselves mostly worked well enough, but one single mission, and suddenly they're "loyal?" And before, they were not "loyal"? What does "loyal" even mean? Oh right, they paint their clothes, and they are kind enough not to die randomly. A loyalty / influence system is great, but not a dumbed down and meaningless "switch" like that. So I'm not against having to gain Liara's loyalty (again), but I certainly hope it'd be done properly. Or just do without it like in ME 1, the game worked well enough as it was.

I also would very much prefer if progress in the romances were again tied to progress in the main story. I think it makes for a much better flow.

Yeah, the loyalty missions were just weird, because all of a sudden they all want you to drop everything, and help them with their problems. Kelly was literally "Jack wants to talk to you. Garrus really wants to talk to you. Thane really wants to talk to you. Miranda seems really worried. Maybe you should talk to her?" It would have been better if they were more spaced, with story missions, story missions, side missions, and then a loyalty mission. Or some loyalties simply meant earning someone's trust, and not a mission.

Modifié par TMA LIVE, 13 juin 2010 - 03:37 .

[IndigoWolfe]

TMA LIVE wrote...

 -It would have been better if they were more spaced, with story missions, story missions, side missions, and then a loyalty mission. Or some loyalties simply meant earning someone's trust, and not a mission.

Does Thane's Loyalty Mission count?

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

IndigoWolfe wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...


Because I feel like posting a screenshot!



And you can't stop me!

You would happen to have taken this yourself, would you?

Yes. Why?

[IndigoWolfe]

Lizardviking wrote...

IndigoWolfe wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...


Because I feel like posting a screenshot!

*snip*

And you can't stop me!

You would happen to have taken this yourself, would you?

Yes. Why?

PC Version then? Hmm, evil thoughts... will probably send PM later.

Modifié par IndigoWolfe, 13 juin 2010 - 03:48 .

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

IndigoWolfe wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

IndigoWolfe wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...


Because I feel like posting a screenshot!

*snip*

And you can't stop me!

You would happen to have taken this yourself, would you?

Yes. Why?

PC Version then? Hmm, evil thoughts...

Evil thoughts? What are your evil plan then Indigo?

[IndigoWolfe]

Check the edit.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

@Indigo

Already seen it.



To get back to topic: Do you think Liara will be one of the starting squadmates in ME3 (assuming we get seperated from the ME2 team) or will she have to be recruited? And if so what would her recruitment mission be?



Personally, I would like it to be a raid on one the shadowbroker's possible safehouses, or if the shadow broker plot will be resolved in DLC. Then perhaps Ilos?

[TMA LIVE]

IndigoWolfe wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

 -It would have been better if they were more spaced, with story missions, story missions, side missions, and then a loyalty mission. Or some loyalties simply meant earning someone's trust, and not a mission.

Does Thane's Loyalty Mission count?

I actually wish there were more missions like Samara's and Thane's, which don't involve combat at all. They were kind of a breather. As much as I LOVE ME2's combat, really hope they make more breather moments in ME3.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

TMA LIVE wrote...

I actually wish there were more missions like Samara's and Thane's, which don't involve combat at all. They were kind of a breather. As much as I LOVE ME2's combat, really hope they make more breather moments in ME3.

This!

While I didn't like Thane's LM, mostly due to the stupid "stalk the politican" minigame. Samara's LM was definetly the second best LM (first is Tali) Mostly because it the only place in the game where you have to think about what you say.

[IndigoWolfe]

Lizardviking wrote...

@Indigo
Already seen it.

To get back to topic: Do you think Liara will be one of the starting squadmates in ME3 (assuming we get seperated from the ME2 team) or will she have to be recruited? And if so what would her recruitment mission be?

Personally, I would like it to be a raid on one the shadowbroker's possible safehouses, or if the shadow broker plot will be resolved in DLC. Then perhaps Ilos?

Or maybe Shepard will be declared rogue from some reason at the beginning of Mass Effect 3, and Liara will break him out of C-Sec custody. That would be cool in the way that Shepard would become the next Saren in the eyes of galactic government, and Liara could be Shepard's Benezia. Dramatically different in some ways, of course, they'd be looking for ways to stop the Reapers. Ooo! And the Virmire Survivor  could be promoted to Spectre status and assigned to bring Shepard in, and given command of the next Normandy-class frigate; the SSV Omaha.

And Bioware could definitely work in a reason why you wouldn't have your ME2 team in there.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

IndigoWolfe wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

@Indigo
Already seen it.

To get back to topic: Do you think Liara will be one of the starting squadmates in ME3 (assuming we get seperated from the ME2 team) or will she have to be recruited? And if so what would her recruitment mission be?

Personally, I would like it to be a raid on one the shadowbroker's possible safehouses, or if the shadow broker plot will be resolved in DLC. Then perhaps Ilos?

Or maybe Shepard will be declared rogue from some reason at the beginning of Mass Effect 3, and Liara will break him out of C-Sec custody. That would be cool in the way that Shepard would become the next Saren in the eyes of galactic government, and Liara could be Shepard's Benezia. Dramatically different in some ways, of course, they'd be looking for ways to stop the Reapers. Ooo! And the Virmire Survivor  could be promoted to Spectre status and assigned to bring Shepard in, and given command of the next Normandy-class frigate; the SSV Omaha.

And Bioware could definitely work in a reason why you wouldn't have your ME2 team in there.

Yes. Shepard being declared rouge is one the ME3 possible plots I like. I always imagined that if it happend. The council and Udina would proberly launch a smear job campaings against him (perhaps that annoying reporter would make a "truth about Shepard" documentary. Which will be completly "unbiased") to remove his credibility, and to make doubt among those who believe him (remember if you saved the council, then Shepard is a hero of the people). It would also do a smear job against Liara  Showing that her family (well, Benezia) have been working with terroist before.

[Marcin K]

ow...site frame got off limits:/

[IndigoWolfe]

Lizardviking wrote...

IndigoWolfe wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

@Indigo
Already seen it.

To get back to topic: Do you think Liara will be one of the starting squadmates in ME3 (assuming we get seperated from the ME2 team) or will she have to be recruited? And if so what would her recruitment mission be?

Personally, I would like it to be a raid on one the shadowbroker's possible safehouses, or if the shadow broker plot will be resolved in DLC. Then perhaps Ilos?

Or maybe Shepard will be declared rogue from some reason at the beginning of Mass Effect 3, and Liara will break him out of C-Sec custody. That would be cool in the way that Shepard would become the next Saren in the eyes of galactic government, and Liara could be Shepard's Benezia. Dramatically different in some ways, of course, they'd be looking for ways to stop the Reapers. Ooo! And the Virmire Survivor  could be promoted to Spectre status and assigned to bring Shepard in, and given command of the next Normandy-class frigate; the SSV Omaha.

And Bioware could definitely work in a reason why you wouldn't have your ME2 team in there.

Yes. Shepard being declared rouge is one the ME3 possible plots I like. I always imagined that if it happend. The council and Udina would proberly launch a smear job campaings against him (perhaps that annoying reporter would make a "truth about Shepard" documentary. Which will be completly "unbiased") to remove his credibility, and to make doubt among those who believe him (remember if you saved the council, then Shepard is a hero of the people). It would also do a smear job against Liara  Showing that her family (well, Benezia) have been working with terroist before.

Or perhaps Shepard could be framed for a genocidal crime by ME3's main protagonist. Like crashing a ship going at FTL speeds into a major population center on the batarian homeworld. Combine that with Shepards association with Cerberus, and you've got quite a problem.

And plus you could add in Star Trek references like

Batarian Embassador: "We demand the expodition of Shepard, we demand justice!"

Liara (entering): "Batarian justice is a unique point of view." (this would be before she breaks Shepard out)

A conspiritorial investigation plot element would make an interesting twist for Mass Effect 3, I think.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

IndigoWolfe wrote...

Or perhaps Shepard could be framed for a genocidal crime by ME3's main protagonist. Like crashing a ship going at FTL speeds into a major population center on the batarian homeworld. Combine that with Shepards association with Cerberus, and you've got quite a problem.

And plus you could add in Star Trek references like

Batarian Embassador: "We demand the expodition of Shepard, we demand justice!"

Liara (entering): "Batarian justice is a unique point of view." (this would be before she breaks Shepard out)

A conspiritorial investigation plot element would make an interesting twist for Mass Effect 3, I think.

To be honest. I'll think the whole "Shepard declared rouge" should have been used in ME2. ME3 needs to conclude the reaper plot after all, and spending too much time playing cops and robbers in citidal space will distract from that.

[IndigoWolfe]

You know, if the ME2 team doesn't get to be taken along in Mass Effect 3, then Liara would be a great source of alternatives. I'm sure she knows the right people for the job.



Or maybe it could be her own people, I'm equally sure she would only settle for the best.