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[vigna]

I really do think that we won't get Liara DLC. I believe we will get a Liara/SB expansion. Unfortunately, I also believe Liara will be off limits romantically for the mission. BW may however acknowledge the romance aspects at the beginning or end of the missions. It will be monstrously complicated if they do the romance in an expansion--BW will have to deal with any cheaters, PC Liara non-romancers, and there isn't much room left on the Normandy to store people. I think Liara will be sitting on Illium and we'll be doing work for her, and she won't be able to even join us. Which is why i think we'll get a romantic clarification at the beginning or end, but no repercussions for cheaters yet--that will come in ME3. I think we'll just have to bide our time until ME3 and be happy that BW will eventually throw us bones-- for us dogs on short Liara leashes

[bjdbwea]

Littledoom wrote...

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...



Hehe, I love Liara!

BW look the fans do your work for you again and a 100 times better.

Wow, very nice. And even without having to record any additional VO.

[vigna]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Continuing on from what I wrote earlier, what if the Liara DLC or expansion was developed concurrently with the rest of ME2, and therefore would have utilised the development team's full array of resources? It wouldn't be such a stretch then to assume that Liara's content will be pretty substantial, and we'll get plenty of romantic conversation with Liara. We do know that Liara's role in the game was originally alot greater, and that she would have accompanied Shepard on a mission, probably as a temporary squadmate, so maybe that is going to be greatly expanded for Liara's DLC and we'll have alot more content than we are expecting?

We can hope.

I'm hoping they don't use the DA:A model for an expansion....

[Blameless77]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Yeled, try this one:



Have a look at this too:



Hehe, I love Liara!

Wow, the second link is so much better than what's actually in the game, it's a little stunning. It would've required so little effort to input (it could have been done for Kaiden/Ashley as well). I guess we just have to chalk it up to oversight, because it's hard to believe they would have left something like that out had they conceived of it. Thanks for sharing.

[Larask]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

There's a way around it for the cheaters, though. Just have Liara's romantic dialogue or scenes be completely absent and have Liara keep it all business. That way, the cheaters won't whinge that they're being forced into the Liara romance again.

For us that remain faithful, though, we will get the romantic conversations with Liara and she'll open up and be intimate with us.

Yes they could do that. But before doing that, they could give them the option to end the relationship with her. I have seen some people complaining that they couldn't end their relationship with Liara in ME2, so that would be a good place to do that. (not that I would ever dream of doing that! But some people have other preferences....) Once this is done they can just have the dialog the way you said it.

[jlb524]

Cheaters never win, and winners never cheat.



Seriously, if you didn't want to romance Liara in ME1, why did you do it in the first place? Or, go back and replay ME1 staying single.

[Larask]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

These people who are complaining that you can't break up with your ME1 LIs get on my nerves. They made the decision to romance them in ME1, so expect the consequences of cheating. If they were going to dump Liara that easy, then they shouldn't have romanced her in ME1.

Ohh yeah, don't get me wrong. I completelly agree with you. But I guess some people considered Liara a "one night thing" which is just lame. I especially hate when I see the poeple who say "ohh I always wanted Tali, but I couldn't romance her there, so I romanced Liara. Now I am gladly cheating on her with Tali!" --> drives me nuts!

[Marcin K]

jlb524 wrote...

Cheaters never win, and winners never cheat.

^^^this and

Larask wrote...

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

These people who are complaining that you can't break up with your ME1 LIs get on my nerves. They made the decision to romance them in ME1, so expect the consequences of cheating. If they were going to dump Liara that easy, then they shouldn't have romanced her in ME1.

Ohh yeah, don't get me wrong. I completelly agree with you. But I guess some people considered Liara a "one night thing" which is just lame. I especially hate when I see the poeple who say "ohh I always wanted Tali, but I couldn't romance her there, so I romanced Liara. Now I am gladly cheating on her with Tali!" --> drives me nuts! 

^^^^this i strongly agree

Modifié par Marcin R, 07 mars 2010 - 06:18 .

[Marcin K]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

It's getting a little angsty in here, I think we need a Liara pic:

YAY ONE OF BEST POSTED HERE EVER ,MAYBE EVEN I MAKE THIS MY NO.1 I REALLY NEEDED THAT THANKS!
enough Liara? NEVER:wub::wub::wub::wub:

[Malastrail]

I consider the ME 2 romances as the "one night stands" type of relationships rather than the ME 1 loves. That's just me

[Mox Ruuga]

Argh.

I can't play ME2. It's hopeless, I've got zero enthusiam for it. I've finished the game twice, that's it. I can't muster enthusiasm for even ME1 any more, with the knowledge of how that triumphant ending will turn out. Absolute shambles. This thing is meant for people who love the shooter combat beyond anything else and Talimancers. I'm neither, so I guess I'm s#!t outta luck.

The combination of the loss of Liara/Wrex/Ash (especially poor poor LiLi, my old favorite, since I don't believe her character is salvageable thanks to Mac Walters' bungling), the awful plot and story, the neglible continuity from ME1, the new cartoony "anything goes as long it's cool" mentality from the writers and devs, the general move away from being an RPG...

Gah. Will have to keep an eye out for ME3 news, but that's two years out or so. And with this same team making it...  Time to order Bioshock 2 I guess, start looking for Civilization V news, and consider myself one of those "acceptable losses".

If the Liara DLC ever materializes, I hope her fans won't be let down once again! Good luck!

[Nozybidaj]

Malastrail wrote...

I consider the ME 2 romances as the "one night stands" type of relationships rather than the ME 1 loves. That's just me

Overall I agree.  The ME2 romances had less emotion in them and felt more like, "hey we're gonna die on the suicide mission, lets bone real quick just to say we did".  I hear that Jack's Paragon romance seems to be more than that, never seen it though.  

[Nozybidaj]

Mox Ruuga wrote...
Time to order Bioshock 2 I guess, start looking for Civilization V news, and consider myself one of those "acceptable losses".

Grab FF XIII, it's got Liara's VA in it.   That'll hold me over for quite a while, during which I think I'll disappear from here.  We've rehashed everything to the point of absurdity, with no good Liara related things to talk about from ME2 and nothing to look forward to for at least a couple of months if ever, there isn't much reason to keep hanging around.  I think I've expressed my disappointment and displeasure enough now.

[Nozybidaj]

General Stubbs wrote...

I am 100% certain, BioWare is taking our concerns about the Beautiful Blue Goddess seriously

/shrug  I more get the impression BW couldn't be bothered to care one way or the other.  If they cared about the fans of the ME1 LI's or the characters themseleves they wouldn't have taken them out of the sequel or they would at least have given us something positive in ME2 that the fans could rally around and use to sustain the fanbases till they do whatever it is they are going to do.

Instead the only representation they got in ME2 was completely negative to drive as many folks as possible out of these fanbases and into the groups for the new LI's.  It would seem kinda silly if they turn around and try to reverse that at this point.

The ME1 LI's might get a bone thrown to them but looking at it realistically I don't think the fans for these characters have any reason to expect more in the future than what they have already received.

[Marcin K]

Nozybidaj wrote...

General Stubbs wrote...

I am 100% certain, BioWare is taking our concerns about the Beautiful Blue Goddess seriously

/shrug  I more get the impression BW couldn't be bothered to care one way or the other.  If they cared about the fans of the ME1 LI's or the characters themseleves they wouldn't have taken them out of the sequel or they would at least have given us something positive in ME2 that the fans could rally around and use to sustain the fanbases till they do whatever it is they are going to do.

Instead the only representation they got in ME2 was completely negative to drive as many folks as possible out of these fanbases and into the groups for the new LI's.  It would seem kinda silly if they turn around and try to reverse that at this point.

The ME1 LI's might get a bone thrown to them but looking at it realistically I don't think the fans for these characters have any reason to expect more in the future than what they have already received.

on ho! i thought we are over witch this and what i see no! PesimimBroker strikes agian!!
cheer up i say to ya all!!

[Nozybidaj]

General Stubbs wrote...

This is off topic, but I just saw FF XIII got reviews from 8.3 - 8.5, strange, technically they are saying Dead Space is better.
I'll still get it, I'll probably get DA:O first (yes, I know I am freaking late for it).

I never pay attention to review scores.  ME2 got like universal 10's and we all know how I feel about the game.  I have little faith that most review scores are based on anything more than the amount of advertising revenue a particular game generates for them.

[bjdbwea]

That calculation is too simple. First, by trashing characters, you save development time and thereby money. Second, by diverting resources and focus from character development to combat, you increase sales to an undemanding shooter audience. That's why the term "acceptable losses" is correct.

But whatever floats their boat. Awakenings could be the first BioWare game ever that I never purchase (not because of the ME 2 fiasco, but because I don't like what I hear about the expansion). I still hope that there are enough people who will act accordingly, as that's the only chance to push the development in another direction (or to push EA into closing BioWare, which I don't doubt will happen to them too should at one point the sales number continue to not meet the expectations - but while I definitely would not be happy about it, they would have brought it all on themselves).

Modifié par bjdbwea, 07 mars 2010 - 07:12 .