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LET, it's ok to call them friends. You're girlfriend has friends. It's an ok thing.


Do one, will you? I was the one who was protecting Liara from overly protective and jealous people the day Redemption was released.

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Let's hope he's dead so he won't steal Liara from us.

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Liara was Farons girlfriend. She was a friend who is a girl, just like Jib is my girlfriend.

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Like the other romances, Liara isn't going to cheat on Shepard.

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Ok, well let's hope they're just friends then.



I'm off for today, bye all!

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Like the other romances, Liara isn't going to cheat on Shepard.


Exarctly!

The Kaidanites have to put up with similar crap with this Citadel doctor.

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The only problem I see with this, J, is that it would've been detailed and displayed as the comic progressed. As it stands, though, it still shows her mistrusting him and doubting his actions right up until he goes to confront Tazzik, literally just before she leaves him behind. As she still hates him immdiately prior to that, and no friendship chemistry develops between them throughout the series run, I'm inclined to believe that survivor's guilt was the trigger. You don't go from threatening to kill someone to then being their friend in just a few short minutes. Survivor's guilt and leaving him behind was the trigger for this.

In ME2, the term "friend" was only used for convenience, and it best fit without revealing Feron's name.


You've said yourself many many times that the comic is a poorly scripted piece of crap.  I think it applies here....they went overboard with the 'I don't trust' you thing with Liara and Feron, and tried to show the 'friendship chemistry' as you say in one panel (when Liara thanks Feron and places a comforting hand on his shoulder) and then in the end when she vows to look for him.

In ME2, Liara even refers to Feron as a 'friend'.  She sees him as more than just a shady dude that helped her way back in the day.  I don't think it even fits her character to see him this way.

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kraidy1117 wrote...

Liara was Farons girlfriend. She was a friend who is a girl, just like Jib is my girlfriend.


We is girlfriends!

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Chief Martini wrote...

Ok, well let's hope they're just friends then.


I think we don't have to worry about it.  Les is arguing they aren't even friends and she really cares nothing for him on any kind of personal level (I think).

I'm off for today, bye all!


Bye bye.

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jlb524 wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Liara was Farons girlfriend. She was a friend who is a girl, just like Jib is my girlfriend.


We is girlfriends!




Hey girlfriend!!!!!!!!!!!!

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kraidy1117 wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Liara was Farons girlfriend. She was a friend who is a girl, just like Jib is my girlfriend.


We is girlfriends!




Hey girlfriend!!!!!!!!!!!!


Hey girlfriend (I mean) boyfriend!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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jlb524 wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Liara was Farons girlfriend. She was a friend who is a girl, just like Jib is my girlfriend.


We is girlfriends!




Hey girlfriend!!!!!!!!!!!!


Hey girlfriend (I mean) boyfriend!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


We all love Liara eh?

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:wizard:

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I love Liara!



Oh, I meant to post this pic hours ago...



Image IPB



You can see here that cheek has that reddish hue I mentioned before ( I noticed it in ME2). Maybe it's not makeup then, but it's just a natural coloration?

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What are you all going to do if they don't announce an expansion or Shadow Broker dlc today?

I'm not going to be mad. There's still plenty of time to release more story-bridging dlc before ME3.

I'd just hate to see this thread go into meltdown if they don't announce anything today. Every one stay strong! : )

Modifié par rynluna, 14 juin 2010 - 08:44 .


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rynluna wrote...

What are you all going to do if they don't announce an expansion or Shadow Broker dlc?


You mean for just this week?  My hopes aren't up high (I think all we will get from ME2 is that demo), so no melt-down from me.

Now, if you mean no DLC ever, then I will be :crying:

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jlb524 wrote...

rynluna wrote...

What are you all going to do if they don't announce an expansion or Shadow Broker dlc?


You mean for just this week?  My hopes aren't up high (I think all we will get from ME2 is that demo), so no melt-down from me.

Now, if you mean no DLC ever, then I will be :crying:



*dies inside*

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I meant at the press conference today.

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kraidy1117 wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Liara was Farons girlfriend. She was a friend who is a girl, just like Jib is my girlfriend.


We is girlfriends!




Hey girlfriend!!!!!!!!!!!!

lmao!Image IPB

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IIIRC E3 conference starts in 10 minute by the way - that may or may not be where we learn about new Bioware stuff.

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Collider wrote...

IIIRC E3 conference starts in 10 minute by the way - that may or may not be where we learn about new Bioware stuff.


Best time to do it. Let's just hope EA's is better then M$ confernce :mellow:

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

Liara is a very compassionate and empathetic person, though.  I think she slowly came to appreciate Feron as a person over the course of the few weeks they worked together.  I think this would happen with her if  forced to be around someone day and night, even she initially has a low opinion of them.  For example, we see that she expresses sympathy for Saren late in ME1, even though she initially thought of him as nothing but a 'turian bastard'.

I think it's more than just survivor's guilt (though that may be part of it).


The only problem I see with this, J, is that it would've been detailed and displayed as the comic progressed. As it stands, though, it still shows her mistrusting him and doubting his actions right up until he goes to confront Tazzik, literally just before she leaves him behind. As she still hates him immdiately prior to that, and no friendship chemistry develops between them throughout the series run, I'm inclined to believe that survivor's guilt was the trigger. You don't go from threatening to kill someone to then being their friend in just a few short minutes. Survivor's guilt and leaving him behind was the trigger for this.

In ME2, the term "friend" was only used for convenience, and it best fit without revealing Feron's name.


1) Maybe it's because she realized that the person she beat the living **** out of, threaten to kill, and whined and whined about "You're a traitor! I trusted you! You used me! I want to kill you! Why don't you have an extra seat!? Blah, blah, blah" never once hit her back, or back stabbed her, or ditched her, or complained to her. He instead said he was sorry she could never trust him, and sacrificed himself. Some friend SHE was.

2) Well, it's never outline that she loves Shepard either, so right back at ya. It's not detailed because it's subtle.

Modifié par TMA LIVE, 14 juin 2010 - 08:53 .


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Hey.......J is my girlfriend!

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jlb524 wrote...

You've said yourself many many times that the comic is a poorly scripted piece of crap.  I think it applies here....they went overboard with the 'I don't trust' you thing with Liara and Feron, and tried to show the 'friendship chemistry' as you say in one panel (when Liara thanks Feron and places a comforting hand on his shoulder) and then in the end when she vows to look for him.

In ME2, Liara even refers to Feron as a 'friend'.  She sees him as more than just a shady dude that helped her way back in the day.  I don't think it even fits her character to see him this way.


True, but Liara then again expresses mistrust when the pair of them are taking cover and hiding, watching the Shadow Broker's goons hand Shepard's corpse over to that Collector. The emnity is still there. Plus, I don't actually believe that one panel can actually constitute any friendship chemistry. It just seems to be an attempt to illustrate Liara's compassion, and to encourage Feron to see the job through and assist her in recovering Shepard's corpse, as they're so close.

Regarding what Liara says in ME2, think back to how Anderson speaks of the events of Ascension in ME1. Suitably vague, and not really elaborating on the story told in the novel. That's what is at work here, IMO. Liara uses the term "friend" out of convenience, and to leave references to the story as vague as possible. That's why they had Liara use the term "friend". To be as vague as possible.

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kraidy1117 wrote...

Collider wrote...

IIIRC E3 conference starts in 10 minute by the way - that may or may not be where we learn about new Bioware stuff.


Best time to do it. Let's just hope EA's is better then M$ confernce :mellow:

The Microsoft Conference was really disappointing. I like the whole Kinect thing but there was too much focus on it in the conference. The conference was pretty boring as a result, there wasn't enough for more "hardcore" gamers. Hopefully the Nintendo conference will be different.