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Fault of crappy comic. Also, watch Star Wars.


Subjective.

Seen it.

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9 out of 10. Sorry guys, but I don't think Bioware is showing anything. At least not at the Presentation.

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

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Fault of crappy comic. Also, watch Star Wars.


Subjective.

Seen it.


They're friends. What's wrong with that? Why does that hurt you?

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They're friends. What's wrong with that? Why does that hurt you?


Nothing.

Except that they're not.

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

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They're friends. What's wrong with that? Why does that hurt you?


Nothing.

Except that they're not.


Whatever. I don't think so. :lol:

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Whatever. I don't think so. :lol:


Then my point has been proven.

What's wrong with Liara just appreciating his sacrifice? Suffering with survivor's guilt?

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Ok , i had an idea , i compressed it into a rar. file , so its gonna be around 55mb , so i will post the link if anyone wants to download it.

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I really think they're supposed to be friends. At the very least, there's evidence to support this interpretation, and it's the one I prefer.

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

True, but in the context of the rest of the comic series and what was displayed throughout the entirety of the run, the distrust and dislike is still simmering below the surface and it manifests itself as Liara again expresses distrust and doubt. You don't go from wanting to kill someone to liking them in the space of 5 short minutes.


Poor scripting!!!!!!!!!!!

Think about it, they spent all their time together for a few weeks....they hung out, shared meals with each other (when they weren't looking for Shepard).  I would find it odd if Liara didn't come to care for Feron as a person in some way.

No, I don't think it's selfish at all. It's survivor's guilt, and being appreciative of Feron's sacrifice. She feels like it's her duty to at least learn of his fate. That's not selfish at all, it's actually incredibly compassionate to do something like that for someone you don't like.


But that is selfish.  Liara is only looking for Feron to quell her own quilt, not because she gives one crap about him.

I'm confused though, J. When we spoke before, you said about how you knew Liara didn't even like him. Why the change of opinion?


She doesn't like him like him (which is what I think I meant), and I'm sure she doesn't consider him to be her bestest friend ever, but I would imagine she harbors some warm feelings for him.

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

What's wrong with Liara just appreciating his sacrifice? Suffering with survivor's guilt?


Also, if she's doing it for that reason, it's selfish, and makes her more of a crazy lady.

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Not this again. If BioWare/EA want to cancel the romance, they'll pull something out their hats, simple as that. Likely the "revelation" that Liara does have feelings for Feron after all. Whether that makes sense, or is in-character for her is a whole different question, one they obviously don't care about. Neverthelesess, the answer of course is: No. And that's really all that can and should be said about the matter.


We are not saying she has romantic feelings for Feron or that she's about to leave Shepard for him.   We are saying she has 'friendly warm' feelings, like in a bromance.

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I have a ton of new screenshots that i am just about to upload (Around 65) , So it will take me about 30-45 mins to do so on to imageshack , So i will post them once they are uploaded,

If anyone esle knows of a quicker way then please pm meh ^_^ .

Thankies ! <3


Oh goodie!

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Poor scripting!!!!!!!!!!!

Think about it, they spent all their time together for a few weeks....they hung out, shared meals with each other (when they weren't looking for Shepard).  I would find it odd if Liara didn't come to care for Feron as a person in some way.


I don't think the timescale was that large, actually. A couple of days at most. A few weeks? I wouldn't say so. Plus, again the mistrust and general ill feelings continues all the way up until the big confrontation. Indicating survivor's guilt.


But that is selfish.  Liara is only looking for Feron to quell her own quilt, not because she gives one crap about him.


Not necessarily. Being appreciative of his sacrifice means she appreciates his actions, and not the person himself. Therefore, she feels like she owes him due to her compassion.


She doesn't like him like him (which is what I think I meant), and I'm sure she doesn't consider him to be her bestest friend ever, but I would imagine she harbors some warm feelings for him.


I see. Hmmmm, I apologise.

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No. It's just you want to believe your spec. And I believe quotes and facts. Friend.:P


Where were these quotes and facts.

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Also, if she's doing it for that reason, it's selfish, and makes her more of a crazy lady.


No it doesn't. Appreciating a sacrifice and having a desire to make things right because you feel you owe said person is not crazy.

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I'm going to draw a picture of Liara giving Feron a bro hug.

Les, when I say 'OMG!!!! It's so obvious from the comic that Liara doesn't give a crap about Shepard and is doing everything out of guilt (or for Feron)' you say, 'poor scripting' and 'the comic is to be ignored...ME2 is the canon!'. And I'm all right with that.

However, when you say 'OMG!!!! Liara don't care 'bout that Feron at all and it's obvious from the comic!' And I say, 'poor scripting' and 'the comic is to be ignored...ME2 is the canon!' you are like, 'Nuh uh! The comic is the GODDESS!!' What gives man?

Modifié par jlb524, 14 juin 2010 - 10:24 .


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I absolutely don't think there's any evidence of a Lira/Feron romance of any kind. Could they go in that direction? Yes, and I wouldn't mind if they hinted it in non-romance playthroughs. But that's not the same thing as a friendship.

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And the EA Press Conf was exactly as I expected!

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Erinlana wrote...

I have a ton of new screenshots that i am just about to upload (Around 65) , So it will take me about 30-45 mins to do so on to imageshack , So i will post them once they are uploaded,

If anyone esle knows of a quicker way then please pm meh ^_^ .

Thankies ! <3


Oh goodie!


goodie ?

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I really think they're supposed to be friends. At the very least, there's evidence to support this interpretation, and it's the one I prefer.


I think they were supposed to be too, but they tried to shove it in at the last moment, in the final few panels, and it failed.

I won't be surprised if Liara is friendly to Feron (if we ever get to see him...if we ever get Liara DLC) or if she is real upset if he is found to be dead.

Les thinks she's going to rescue him and then punch him in the face!

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

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No. It's just you want to believe your spec. And I believe quotes and facts. Friend.:P


Where were these quotes and facts.


"For what he did to my friend."

"I need to find him. I owe him my life."

"I got another friend to help now..."

"Don't worry Feron (smiles, and raises gun) we will."

"Words aren't the only things the speak the truth."

"(grabs Feron in excitement) Then what are you waiting for? Let's go!"

(buddy buddy moment on his ship)

(sad for his loss)

Lots and lots.

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goodie ?


Liara pictures make me happy!

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And it's over. Nothing. Damn.

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*is tired but will stay up to upload Liara pictures*

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And it's over. Nothing. Damn.


this...was...expected...