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I expressed optimism regarding the Liara DLC last night and Sunnie responded to me with a facepalm! *cries*



I do reiterate what I said, though, and it's something ryn has echoed. Now that the Overlord DLC is out and there is no more story DLC confirmed to be on the way, Liara's DLC may be next. I hope so!

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

I expressed optimism regarding the Liara DLC last night and Sunnie responded to me with a facepalm! *cries*

I do reiterate what I said, though, and it's something ryn has echoed. Now that the Overlord DLC is out and there is no more story DLC confirmed to be on the way, Liara's DLC may be next. I hope so!


I hope so. Liara's story and resulting question mark is by far paramount to any other story line left hanging

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I hope so. Liara's story and resulting question mark is by far paramount to any other story line left hanging


Exactly. Overlord and Kasumi are nice, but Liara and her current character and story arc are absolutely vital to the overarching plot of the series, IMO. She's one of the trilogy's core characters, and whatever happens with her current storyline could have major ramifications and effects on what happens in the future.

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Also, I think people misunderstand somewhat when they say Liara has a minor role in ME2. Whilst her actual appearence is very small and minor, the role she plays in the ME2 story is huge. Without her, there would be no ME2 as Shepard would be in the Collectors' possession.

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...



Exactly. Overlord and Kasumi are nice, but Liara and her current character and story arc are absolutely vital to the overarching plot of the series, IMO. She's one of the trilogy's core characters, and whatever happens with her current storyline could have major ramifications and effects on what happens in the future.


As far as I'm concerned the love story between Shepard and Liara is the story line and the rest is a backdrop. That's just my opinion though. I've got my doubts about BW and the direction they're taking

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If you buy these DLCs, it makes a proper Liara DLC even more unlikely (because that would require more work and resources, and why do that if other things are more profitable). I for one have no interest in it anyway. ME 2 is gone from my HD, and I don't know when it might be back. Been thinking about playing ME 1 again though. :wub:

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So Bioware, now that Overlord is out it's time for you to start talking about other story bridging dlc.  Story bridging dlc like the Liara/Shadow Broker dlc??  :wizard:


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As far as I'm concerned the love story between Shepard and Liara is the story line and the rest is a backdrop. That's just my opinion though. I've got my doubts about BW and the direction they're taking


The Shepard/Liara love story and Liara's character herself was a big part of why I loved ME1 so much. The potential of the Shepard/Liara love story is incredible, I hope BW realises that potential!

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If you buy these DLCs, it makes a proper Liara DLC even more unlikely (because that would require more work and resources, and why do that if other things are more profitable). I for one have no interest in it anyway. ME 2 is gone from my HD, and I don't know when it might be back. Been thinking about playing ME 1 again though. :wub:


I can understand your sentiment but have to disagree because if BW profits from DLC's they'' be more likely to make more. There are a lot of unfinished story lines, Too many for them to include in one game and still develop the Reaper thing. They did in fact say that they would be bridging gaps between 2 and 3 so I think it's fair to assume they'll do that. Which questions and which order they proceed with is another matter though

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If the last and most substantial of the story bridging DLCs is the Liara one, then I think there's a very good chance that Liara and her character arc will have a very significant role and effect in ME3. I hope so!

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

pf17456 wrote...

As far as I'm concerned the love story between Shepard and Liara is the story line and the rest is a backdrop. That's just my opinion though. I've got my doubts about BW and the direction they're taking


The Shepard/Liara love story and Liara's character herself was a big part of why I loved ME1 so much. The potential of the Shepard/Liara love story is incredible, I hope BW realises that potential!


Depends on whether or not BW has the courage of conviction. So far they seem to have shown the opposite

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If you buy these DLCs, it makes a proper Liara DLC even more unlikely (because that would require more work and resources, and why do that if other things are more profitable).


If Overlord does well, wouldn't they want to make more DLC that is more substantial and focuses more on story-telling than just making little helmet packs?  That would mean more money for them.

About the Liara DLC, ME3 is so far away, there is plenty of time for them to release more DLC.  This one might not even come out until next year, closer to the time ME3 is to be released.

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

If the last and most substantial of the story bridging DLCs is the Liara one, then I think there's a very good chance that Liara and her character arc will have a very significant role and effect in ME3. I hope so!


I still think the SB should imprison both Shep and Liara at the end of the DLC, which would explain the inevitable reset of Shepard and her abilities for ME3, and also separate Shepard from the former squad (we know they are going to do this!).

If it's something big like this, it would have to be the final 'story DLC'.

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I think bjd hols the opinion that these DLCs are shallow and somewhat lacking in story, and that if we purchase them we will encourage BW to develop more instead of a truly deep and substantial Liara DLC.



I do think that Overlord and Kasumi are a step in the right direction, however. If those two DLCs are a success, then it may encourage BW to have the Liara content be extremely deep and substantial.

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If Overlord does poorly, the lesson they are likely to take away is not "Let's do an even more elaborate DLC that will require even more time and money." It's more likely to be "Our potential customer base for DLC is not interested in story-based content."

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I still think the SB should imprison both Shep and Liara at the end of the DLC, which would explain the inevitable reset of Shepard and her abilities for ME3, and also separate Shepard from the former squad (we know they are going to do this!).

If it's something big like this, it would have to be the final 'story DLC'.


Yep, that way Liara could be the first squaddie you recruit in ME3, like Kaidan and Jacob. We'll also need a throwaway squaddie that dies early on, like Jenkins or Wilson. Feron, perhaps?

I love the idea of Shepard and Liara breaking out of the SB's base together. I want!!

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Yeah, Overlord and Kasumi were more story-based than others. I don't think they were lacking, though I do hope any Liara DLC would be a bit more extensive with story and longer.

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

I still think the SB should imprison both Shep and Liara at the end of the DLC, which would explain the inevitable reset of Shepard and her abilities for ME3, and also separate Shepard from the former squad (we know they are going to do this!).

If it's something big like this, it would have to be the final 'story DLC'.


Yep, that way Liara could be the first squaddie you recruit in ME3, like Kaidan and Jacob. We'll also need a throwaway squaddie that dies early on, like Jenkins or Wilson. Feron, perhaps?

I love the idea of Shepard and Liara breaking out of the SB's base together. I want!!


Feron would make a perfect red shirt! :whistle:

Anyway. What up? Whats the topic of today?

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Yeah, I liked Overlord and Kasumi and loved the story-based content contained within them. I do hope the Liara DLC is even bigger and more substantial, though. I hope there's a massive amount of emphasis placed on interaction between Liara and Shepard.

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I wouldn't mind seeing Feron as a full squaddie. He and Liara could have some very interesting banter.

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I wouldn't mind seeing Feron as a full squaddie. He and Liara could have some very interesting banter.


True. I'm not sure the Thane fans would like Feron replacing him as the customary drell squaddie, though!

I'm still not expecting to find Feron alive, though. I was waiting for #4 to provide any indication or reason as to why the SB would keep him alive. As that's not the case, I think he's worm food. I believe Liara knows this too, as she refers to what the SB did to him in the past tense.

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If Overlord does badly it could be due to the fact that it was released during E3 and has been swamped in the news by everything else that's going on, I've not seen any announcement of it being released on IGN or eurogamer.

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Yes, but Feron doesn't have Kepral's Syndrome, and I will be annoyed if Thane gets a magic cure. If there's another two year timeskip, I want him dead. Also, I have a bit of a crush on Feron.

He is probably dead, though. Still, banter...

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You'd want Overlord to be a success then, as that could bode well for the Liara DLC. If BW sees that players are enjoying substantial, story-driven DLC then they will want to expand on that with Liara's content.

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

You'd want Overlord to be a success then, as that could bode well for the Liara DLC. If BW sees that players are enjoying substantial, story-driven DLC then they will want to expand on that with Liara's content.


An absolutely logical progression