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[Collider]

I agree with jlb. Focus on the romance as it is.

Modifié par Collider, 16 juin 2010 - 05:48 .

[Master Wolf]

I think that the two paths would be beter for the story and the faithful concept would actualy mean something.

[JamieCOTC]

jlb524 wrote...

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Of course, an easy way out of this would be to just create one uniform romance path that can be applied to both faithful and new players alike.

I hope not, but I worry this will happen.  I'd rather they then not make the romance available to new players so they can focus on continuing the romance for those that have carried it over since ME1.

Given BW's record I say this is a given.  The faithful may get an extra line or two if that.  I wish it were not so.  Being on a PC I'm ready for the 5 dvd disc ME3. 

[jtav]

What about "cheaters?" Should the romance be available at all? How much difference should there be vs. not having an ME2 LI?

[Collider]

jtav wrote...
What about "cheaters?" Should the romance be available at all? How much difference should there be vs. not having an ME2 LI?

I think there should be some sort of penalty for having an ME2 LI if you romanced Liara in ME1. With Ashley and Kaidan the romance is much more on "hold" or even ended for the time being. Liara has her information broker job, but the romance or relationship never ended or was never put on hold.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

jtav wrote...

What about "cheaters?" Should the romance be available at all? How much difference should there be vs. not having an ME2 LI?

If  you cheat on Liara, then she should be alot more broken and maybe even abit distrustfull of you. You then have to prove you really only cared for her all along and you won't abandond her again.

[CM26617]

Good question, jtav. If a person cheated, there should be hard evidence of this fact that Shepard has either moved on or hasn't been involved with Liara to begin with.



That'll present several branching scenarios, but my guess is that:



a) Those who have been and still intend to remain in a relationship with Liara should be able to continue their infatuation



Perhaps a new relationship can be begun with Liara for a scratch Shepard, but this will have to involve a lot of different dialogue, (therefore an unlikely path)



c) Shepard's who are involved with someone else and Liara at the same time and who have affirmed that they have moved on should be able to terminate any prior relationship with Liara. This will have no major impact concerning gameplay, but this may result in a few sharp exchanges between the two (or not, depending on how Liara reacts)

[Master Wolf]

I fear that if that if they follow the reset path even the "cheaters" will be immediatly forgiven because your LI will play the comprehensive partener and take you cheating as understandable

Modifié par Master Wolf, 16 juin 2010 - 06:02 .

[Marcin K]

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[jlb524]

jtav wrote...

What about "cheaters?" Should the romance be available at all? How much difference should there be vs. not having an ME2 LI?

Perhaps you have to go the 're-romance' path, assuming they have two different paths.  They said there will be 'consequences', but that could entail a brief confrontation scene were you pick one.  Your consequence is:  you can't have both.

[Nerevar-as]

Master Wolf wrote...

I fear that if that if they follow the reset path even the "cheaters" will be immediatly forgiven because your LI will play the comprehensive partener and take you cheating as understandable

Hope not. Give them some selfsteem. There should have been a break the relationship option in ME2 rather than on hold, even if it was a mail (cowardly but better than nothing). My greatest fear would be cheating Liara ending in getting a relationship with both her and the ME2 LI.

[TMA LIVE]

jtav wrote...

Well, I fixed my picture problem. Turned out I had activated Jack's romance without meaning to. I am now officially faithful.

Uh oh, looks like you're going to get the "**** OFF!" treatment with Jack from now on.

[TMA LIVE]

Sunnie22 wrote...

Nightwriter wrote...

Oh, pardon me then. I thought it was implied they had done it...

The Omega 4 relay scene with the real LIs is implied, since they really don't show much it can only be implied. Kelly was dinner, then a dance and cuddle, theres nothing implied there, in the same sense as the actual romances.
Edit: Additionally, if it was implied, at all, there wouold have been a trigger of the paramour achievement and the picture frame on the desk would have been face down.

I don't know. I might take the Quentin Tarentino way of thinking, and say "it's not as bad, but it's still in the same ball park." After all, I doubt Liara would like the idea of you cuddling your secretary in bed, while she's dressed in a stripper suit.

[jtav]

TMA LIVE wrote...

jtav wrote...

Well, I fixed my picture problem. Turned out I had activated Jack's romance without meaning to. I am now officially faithful.

Uh oh, looks like you're going to get the "**** OFF!" treatment with Jack from now on.

Game's over. I'll live. And I never meant to romance Jack.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

yorkj86 wrote...

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

I'd be surprised if cheating leads to anything more substantial than a generic confrontation scene in which you choose between you LIs. Whomever you choose, you continue the relationship with them and the rejected LI stops talking to you.

That's how I think it will go.

Something even more dynamic would be cool, such as cheating on Liara, with Jack, who has profound trust issues.  Liara can't trust you, Jack knows that Liara can't trust you, so now Jack knows that she can't trust you, and Shepard is rightly left with noone.

Both ditching Shepard will be the greatest thing ever! Bioware make it so!

[jtav]

And to take that hypothetical, what's the player who preferred Jack to do? You can't dump your old LI except by picking up a new one.

[Nerevar-as]

yorkj86 wrote...

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

I'd be surprised if cheating leads to anything more substantial than a generic confrontation scene in which you choose between you LIs. Whomever you choose, you continue the relationship with them and the rejected LI stops talking to you.

That's how I think it will go.

Something even more dynamic would be cool, such as cheating on Liara, with Jack, who has profound trust issues.  Liara can't trust you, Jack knows that Liara can't trust you, so now Jack knows that she can't trust you, and Shepard is rightly left with noone.

Don´t think will happen, but it would be great having the ME2 LI voice his/her opinion on you cheating:
Jack: big trust issues. You betrayed Liara (or Ash), would you betray her too?
Tali: besides the previous without the trust issues, she feels so much like the replacement for Liara she could realizae of it even in game (sweet and kind of naive? check, death of parent in storyline after big mistake? check, virgin? check).
So Shepard, when someone you loved got emotionally unbalanced from the consequences of saving you and you betray them?

[TMA LIVE]

jtav wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

jtav wrote...

Well, I fixed my picture problem. Turned out I had activated Jack's romance without meaning to. I am now officially faithful.

Uh oh, looks like you're going to get the "**** OFF!" treatment with Jack from now on.

Game's over. I'll live. And I never meant to romance Jack.

Yeah, me neither. I tried to do the friend thing by saying I'm not interested, but I'll still be coming down to talk. Some how, that meant "I want a relationship.":pinched: So I then had to break up with her, and got the "**** OFF!".

I just wanted to be friends.