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We don't know that till later. And even then, we don't know what the Observer was suppose to do.


Uh, we do. It's pretty obvious. The Observer is a senior Shadow Broker agent operating on Illium. What else will it be doing?

Then why didint she already do it? Shes had the opportunity for some time now.

We dont know for sure if the observer was ever going to kill Liara.

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What did you do?


I asked you first what you did but here's my answer.  I didn't out him to the Quarians.  Tali is Shepard's friend.  They are like sisters.  I'm not going to be an a-hole to her, even though what her father did wasn't right.  Friendship and trust counts a whole lot more to me.

The same goes for Liara.  It all comes down to trust.  I see the visible pain on her face and when she asks me to help her take down the Shadowbroker's agent, you better believe I'm going to do it. 

Get off of Liara's back.  She did a lot for you and only wants your assistance.  I don't understand why you are painting her as something evil when she isn't.

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Lemon Icy wrote...

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We don't know that till later. And even then, we don't know what the Observer was suppose to do.


Uh, we do. It's pretty obvious. The Observer is a senior Shadow Broker agent operating on Illium. What else will it be doing?

Then why didint she already do it? Shes had the opportunity for some time now.

We dont know for sure if the observer was going to kill Liara.


Most likely the Observer is just observing for now. She might have killed her late. but again, it's all guest work.

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

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We don't know that till later. And even then, we don't know what the Observer was suppose to do.


Uh, we do. It's pretty obvious. The Observer is a senior Shadow Broker agent operating on Illium. What else will it be doing?

Yep, Liara explains why she needs the tasks done, all Shep has to do is ask...

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We don't know that till later. And even then, we don't know what the Observer was suppose to do.


Uh, we do. It's pretty obvious. The Observer is a senior Shadow Broker agent operating on Illium. What else will it be doing?

Then why didint she already do it? Shes had the opportunity for some time now.

We dont know for sure if the observer was going to kill Liara.


Most likely the Observer is just observing for now. She might have killed her late. but again, it's all guest work.

Its all just speculation.

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Then why didint she already do it? Shes had the opportunity for some time now.

We dont know for sure if the observer was going to kill Liara.


Because Nyxeris iss waiting for the right time to strike? Just because she hasn't done so yet, doesn't mean that she isn't conspiring to.

The Shadow Broker places a senior agent on Illium, where one of his rivals and someone who happens to be pursuing him is also located. What's the reason that he placed said agent there? Do the math.

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What did you do?


I asked you first what you did but here's my answer.  I didn't out him to the Quarians.  Tali is Shepard's friend.  They are like sisters.  I'm not going to be an a-hole to her, even though what her father did wasn't right.  Friendship and trust counts a whole lot more to me.

The same goes for Liara.  It all comes down to trust.  I see the visible pain on her face and when she asks me to help her take down the Shadowbroker's agent, you better believe I'm going to do it. 

Get off of Liara's back.  She did a lot for you and only wants your assistance.  I don't understand why you are painting her as something evil when she isn't.


Thank you. I did the same thing. I'm simply saying why I don't think I can trust Liara, because I felt like I couldn't if she's still willing to go that far. I can't change how i felt.

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

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Then why didint she already do it? Shes had the opportunity for some time now.

We dont know for sure if the observer was going to kill Liara.


Because Nyxeris iss waiting for the right time to strike? Just because she hasn't done so yet, doesn't mean that she isn't conspiring to.

The Shadow Broker places a senior agent on Illium, where one of his rivals and someone who happens to be pursuing him is also located. What's the reason that he placed said agent there? Do the math.

How long is she going to wait then?
While she might have eventually planned to kill her, we dont know for sure. Nyxeris objective could just be to always keep an eye on liara.

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Most likely the Observer is just observing for now. She might have killed her late. but again, it's all guest work.


The Shadow Broker places a senior agent in a city where an asari that happens to be pursuing him to kill him is also located. Think logically. Why else would he place said agent there?

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We don't know that till later. And even then, we don't know what the Observer was suppose to do.


Uh, we do. It's pretty obvious. The Observer is a senior Shadow Broker agent operating on Illium. What else will it be doing?

Yep, Liara explains why she needs the tasks done, all Shep has to do is ask...


Quote me Liara. Alll she says is that killing the Observer makes her closer to killing the Shadow Broker. And Shepard doesn't know the Shadow Broken even stole his corpse at this point. Garrus told me Sidonis set his team up, and he knew for sure because of this, and that.

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I going to say this once. You're right, It's not different. I never said it was. I had a problem doing both. I did both. I stopped both from killing needlessly. But didn't like helping out with something that could be dirty, but did it anyways. I told both I had a problem with it. They both said they'd do it anyways. I then stopped them. They are the same, and my feeling are the same.


So, your Shepard trusts Garrus more than Liara, basically?


Garrus didn't tell me he'd kill 5 people if I didn't help him kill Sidonis. He might just do that, but he'd never tell me that.

Also, if you asked me if I trust Garrus more then Liara, then yes, I do.

So what Liara was actually saying was, "I don't want to kill anyone other than the SB Observer". I can understand the need to find out for sure to prevent the unnecessary deaths of 5 people, as I can also understand teh need to kill them all if it can't be determined. There is no right or wrong when you are trying to keep yourself alive. Right and wrong are determined by who ever is left alive for they are the ones writing the history books.

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

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Most likely the Observer is just observing for now. She might have killed her late. but again, it's all guest work.


The Shadow Broker places a senior agent in a city where an asari that happens to be pursuing him to kill him is also located. Think logically. Why else would he place said agent there?


Why isn't she dead then?

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How long is she going to wait then?
While she might have eventually planned to kill her, we dont know for sure. Nyxeris objective could just be to always keep an eye on liara.


Until the right time arrives?

So what do you suggest Liara do, then? Sit down with the Observer over tea and scones, and politely ask a senior agent of a massively powerful and ruthless organisation that Liara happens to working to stop to kindly leave her alone?

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Sunnie22 wrote...

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I going to say this once. You're right, It's not different. I never said it was. I had a problem doing both. I did both. I stopped both from killing needlessly. But didn't like helping out with something that could be dirty, but did it anyways. I told both I had a problem with it. They both said they'd do it anyways. I then stopped them. They are the same, and my feeling are the same.


So, your Shepard trusts Garrus more than Liara, basically?


Garrus didn't tell me he'd kill 5 people if I didn't help him kill Sidonis. He might just do that, but he'd never tell me that.

Also, if you asked me if I trust Garrus more then Liara, then yes, I do.

So what Liara was actually saying was, "I don't want to kill anyone other than the SB Observer". I can understand the need to find out for sure to prevent the unnecessary deaths of 5 people, as I can also understand teh need to kill them all if it can't be determined. There is no right or wrong when you are trying to keep yourself alive. Right and wrong are determined by who ever is left alive for they are the ones writing the history books.


Yeah. Anyways, what's done is done.

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Why isn't she dead then?


Because she's waiting for the right time to strike?

The mere fact that the Shadow Broker is keeping Liara alive is a massive derpy plothole anyway.

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

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How long is she going to wait then?
While she might have eventually planned to kill her, we dont know for sure. Nyxeris objective could just be to always keep an eye on liara.


Until the right time arrives?

So what do you suggest Liara do, then? Sit down with the Observer over tea and scones, and politely ask a senior agent of a massively powerful and ruthless organisation that Liara happens to working to stop to kindly leave her alone?

The right time?

She has the opportunity to kill Liara at any time. liara even says that had nyxeris been ordered to kill her, she could have done it and liara would have never seen her coming.

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Lemon Icy wrote...

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Then why didint she already do it? Shes had the opportunity for some time now.

We dont know for sure if the observer was going to kill Liara.


Because Nyxeris iss waiting for the right time to strike? Just because she hasn't done so yet, doesn't mean that she isn't conspiring to.

The Shadow Broker places a senior agent on Illium, where one of his rivals and someone who happens to be pursuing him is also located. What's the reason that he placed said agent there? Do the math.

How long is she going to wait then?
While she might have eventually planned to kill her, we dont know for sure. Nyxeris objective could just be to always keep an eye on liara.

That still justifies getting rid of her. The fact is, she sure as **** wasn't helping Liara. Whatever she was doing was not for the good.

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

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How long is she going to wait then?
While she might have eventually planned to kill her, we dont know for sure. Nyxeris objective could just be to always keep an eye on liara.


Until the right time arrives?

So what do you suggest Liara do, then? Sit down with the Observer over tea and scones, and politely ask a senior agent of a massively powerful and ruthless organisation that Liara happens to working to stop to kindly leave her alone?


LET, the problem is, **** being done without knowing anything, or very little. That's the problem. Liara forcing things to happen Renegade style. It's because of that, she'd probably wouldn't have never realised the Observer was Nyxeris until Shepard showed up. She was so into killing the Observer, that she was willing to have killed 5 people. And all 5 were not the Observer. That's the problem. She's being blind.

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The right time?

She has the opportunity to kill Liara at any time. liara even says that had nyxeris been ordered to kill her, she could have done it and liara would have never seen her coming.


Dear lord.

That's exactly the point I'm making. Nyxeris hasn't seen the right opportunity, or hasn't been ordered to do so yet.

I smell a multi-account.

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LET, the problem is, **** being done without knowing anything, or very little. That's the problem. Liara forcing things to happen Renegade style. It's because of that, she'd probably wouldn't have never realised the Observer was Nyxeris until Shepard showed up. She was so into killing the Observer, that she was willing to have killed 5 people. And all 5 were not the Observer. That's the problem. She's being blind.


Which is exactly why she requests Shepard's help after Shep offers assistance, so that she can ascertain which suspect is the Observer without spilling blood unnecessarily. What's the problem?

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Dear lord.

That's exactly the point I'm making. Nyxeris hasn't seen the right opportunity, or hasn't been ordered to do so yet.

I smell a multi-account.


As do I.  This thread is about wanting Liara to return as a squadmate and love interest.  A few in here don't seem to have any love towards Liara so why are they still here?? <_<

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

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The right time?

She has the opportunity to kill Liara at any time. liara even says that had nyxeris been ordered to kill her, she could have done it and liara would have never seen her coming.


Dear lord.

That's exactly the point I'm making. Nyxeris hasn't seen the right opportunity, or hasn't been ordered to do so yet.

I smell a multi-account.


Right opportunity? Didn't you youself ask why the Shadow Broker doesn't just snipe Liara from her window? Or bomb her office?

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Dear lord.

That's exactly the point I'm making. Nyxeris hasn't seen the right opportunity, or hasn't been ordered to do so yet.

I smell a multi-account.


As do I.  This thread is about wanting Liara to return as a squadmate and love interest.  A few in here don't seem to have any love towards Liara so why are they still here?? <_<


I care. I felt like I couldn't trust her, but that doesn't mean I don't want her to be ok.