Because even though some people don't like to admit it. There is a huge void of horrible, ****ty writing in ME2.TMA LIVE wrote...
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The right time?
She has the opportunity to kill Liara at any time. liara even says that had nyxeris been ordered to kill her, she could have done it and liara would have never seen her coming.
Dear lord.
That's exactly the point I'm making. Nyxeris hasn't seen the right opportunity, or hasn't been ordered to do so yet.
I smell a multi-account.
Right opportunity? Didn't you youself ask why the Shadow Broker doesn't just snipe Liara from her window? Or bomb her office?
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#37576
Posté 17 juin 2010 - 09:03
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Posté 17 juin 2010 - 09:04
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TMA LIVE wrote...
Right opportunity? Didn't you youself ask why the Shadow Broker doesn't just snipe Liara from her window? Or bomb her office?
Why indeed? We're not debating Liara now, we're debating the crappy writing and the ludicrous plothole.
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Posté 17 juin 2010 - 09:04
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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...
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LET, the problem is, **** being done without knowing anything, or very little. That's the problem. Liara forcing things to happen Renegade style. It's because of that, she'd probably wouldn't have never realised the Observer was Nyxeris until Shepard showed up. She was so into killing the Observer, that she was willing to have killed 5 people. And all 5 were not the Observer. That's the problem. She's being blind.
Which is exactly why she requests Shepard's help after Shep offers assistance, so that she can ascertain which suspect is the Observer without spilling blood unnecessarily. What's the problem?
Well, how about why doesn't she tell me the Observer helps pick out targets to be assassinated, and that she might be a target? That's way better then "I must kill the Observer, because it makes me closer to killing the Shadow Broker."
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Posté 17 juin 2010 - 09:05
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Again, just speculation.LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...
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The right time?
She has the opportunity to kill Liara at any time. liara even says that had nyxeris been ordered to kill her, she could have done it and liara would have never seen her coming.
Dear lord.
That's exactly the point I'm making. Nyxeris hasn't seen the right opportunity, or hasn't been ordered to do so yet.
I smell a multi-account.
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Posté 17 juin 2010 - 09:07
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Why don't you guys head over to that discussion group, to avoid another blow out in the Liara thread? I detect too much tension, and some of you are close to flaming.
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Posté 17 juin 2010 - 09:08
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Well, how about why doesn't she tell me the Observer helps pick out targets to be assassinated, and that she might be a target? That's way better then "I must kill the Observer, because it makes me closer to killing the Shadow Broker."
Contrived crappy witing so that morons will go "derp Liara is evil now derp derp".
Why indeed does she not outline that, when Liara is fully aware of it? Ask Walters, not me.
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Posté 17 juin 2010 - 09:09
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Liara facepalm is needed here.
Ain't she adorable?
#37583
Posté 17 juin 2010 - 09:10
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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...
TMA LIVE wrote...
Right opportunity? Didn't you youself ask why the Shadow Broker doesn't just snipe Liara from her window? Or bomb her office?
Why indeed? We're not debating Liara now, we're debating the crappy writing and the ludicrous plothole.
Just speculating here, but what if the Shadow Broker is specifically keeping Liara alive for some reason? Or maybe he "likes" her in some way. Perhaps, in some gradiose way, he's preparing her to be his replacement.
Or perhaps the Reapers are interested in the pieces of Shepard's mind Liara has from their meldings.
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Posté 17 juin 2010 - 09:11
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Lemon Icy wrote...
Again, just speculation.
It's not speculation that Nyxeris will eventually kill Liara, though.
What is speculation is the reasons as to why she's waiting.
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Posté 17 juin 2010 - 09:11
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Yeah keep it cool in here, this is the Liara thread, not a battle ground.
anyone care to catch me up on what's going on?
XD
anyone care to catch me up on what's going on?
XD
#37586
Posté 17 juin 2010 - 09:13
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Perhaps, in some gradiose way, he's preparing her to be his replacement.
interesting idea
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IndigoWolfe wrote...
Just speculating here, but what if the Shadow Broker is specifically keeping Liara alive for some reason? Or maybe he "likes" her in some way. Perhaps, in some gradiose way, he's preparing her to be his replacement.
Or perhaps the Reapers are interested in the pieces of Shepard's mind Liara has from their meldings.
Or perhaps it's just pants and sloppy writing, something that's at least consistent with alot of ME2?
I'm think that is what's most likely.
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Posté 17 juin 2010 - 09:13
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IndigoWolfe wrote...
LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...
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Right opportunity? Didn't you youself ask why the Shadow Broker doesn't just snipe Liara from her window? Or bomb her office?
Why indeed? We're not debating Liara now, we're debating the crappy writing and the ludicrous plothole.
Just speculating here, but what if the Shadow Broker is specifically keeping Liara alive for some reason? Or maybe he "likes" her in some way. Perhaps, in some gradiose way, he's preparing her to be his replacement.
Or perhaps the Reapers are interested in the pieces of Shepard's mind Liara has from their meldings.
Yes indeedio. The Observer is there for just that, to observe. The shadow broker knowing exactly what Liara plans but choosing not to act as he himself is in no immediate danger, at the same time he wants to keep a close eye on his future investment...this makes sense to me
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Posté 17 juin 2010 - 09:13
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To you maybe, but i dont know for sure if she planned to kill Liara. I personlly think she was just planning to keep watch and spy on liara.LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...
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Again, just speculation.
It's not speculation that Nyxeris will eventually kill Liara, though.
What is speculation is the reasons as to why she's waiting.
#37590
Posté 17 juin 2010 - 09:14
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You know what Liara's office needs? A jacuzzi.
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Posté 17 juin 2010 - 09:14
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IndigoWolfe wrote...
Just speculating here, but what if the Shadow Broker is specifically keeping Liara alive for some reason? Or maybe he "likes" her in some way. Perhaps, in some gradiose way, he's preparing her to be his replacement.
Or perhaps the Reapers are interested in the pieces of Shepard's mind Liara has from their meldings.
There could be a number of reasons. The writing leaves everything vague though.
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Posté 17 juin 2010 - 09:15
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Liara facepalm is needed here.
Ain't she adorable?
Yes. Right there is the second most adorable part of the game.
She's so cute when she doesn't get the joke 
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Posté 17 juin 2010 - 09:15
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IndigoWolfe wrote...
You know what Liara's office needs? A jacuzzi.
For two!
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Posté 17 juin 2010 - 09:17
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Either way, I had a problem with that bit, didn't like that Liara asked me to do it with the reasons she gave, and felt I couldn't trust her or knew her. Or I couldn't trust her because i felt, even if she was on my side, I couldn't trust her to do things for the right reasons. Some people blindly trusted her from beginning to end, because they simply do trust her, and because they love her. I'm just not that guy.
Anyways, lets start saying some good things about her.
Anyways, lets start saying some good things about her.
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Posté 17 juin 2010 - 09:17
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Shavon wrote...
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You know what Liara's office needs? A jacuzzi.
For two!
Any self-respecting jacuzzi has enough room for five. It doesn't have to be at full capacity, but it has to be on the larger side to be a "real" jacuzzi.
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Posté 17 juin 2010 - 09:18
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Lemon Icy wrote...
To you maybe, but i dont know for sure if she planned to kill Liara. I personlly think she was just planning to keep watch and spy on liara.
You are naive.
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Posté 17 juin 2010 - 09:19
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Shavon wrote...
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You know what Liara's office needs? A jacuzzi.
For two!
Forget Liara's office. I want Liara and Shepard to go to her apartment on Illium.
You guys want to know what crappy writing is?
Tell me why Shepard couldn't spend the night with Liara on Illium? If you recruit Thane, Samara, and do Miri's loyalty mission...it's going to take more than one day!
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Posté 17 juin 2010 - 09:23
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That is very true, Ryn. The way Liara was presented horrified me. They did sh!tty writing, there. The suicide mission was pressing, sure, but Shepard still had time to go around and do all of these favors for the squad mates. Shep deserved a little personal time, imo.
Bw shouldn't claim to do carryover well, when they clearly haven't.
Bw shouldn't claim to do carryover well, when they clearly haven't.
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Posté 17 juin 2010 - 09:28
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IndigoWolfe wrote...
LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...
TMA LIVE wrote...
Right opportunity? Didn't you youself ask why the Shadow Broker doesn't just snipe Liara from her window? Or bomb her office?
Why indeed? We're not debating Liara now, we're debating the crappy writing and the ludicrous plothole.
Just speculating here, but what if the Shadow Broker is specifically keeping Liara alive for some reason? Or maybe he "likes" her in some way. Perhaps, in some gradiose way, he's preparing her to be his replacement.
Or perhaps the Reapers are interested in the pieces of Shepard's mind Liara has from their meldings.
Or maybe if the SB is working for the reapers (through indoctrination or otherwise) they could be baiting Liara to find the SB safehouse, because they know that once that happens. Shepard will be at Liara side, making it the perfect oppertunity to re-claim Shepard again.
So basicly when Liara and Shepard is deep inside the SB main base, they will be surrounded by the reapers evil minnions. Ending with Shepard getting captured, and Liara barely escaping. Harbinger will taunt Liara. Thanking her for playing her role perfectly in their grand scheme.
Would be ironic for the person to rescue Shepard from the reapers, to be the one handing him to them later.
