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[Crimmsonwind]

Lizardviking wrote...

Crimmsonwind wrote...

True. Liara did, but that might have been because of her mother. But all those Eclipse mercs had to learn it from somewhere, I'm pretty sure they don't just let any ol' asari into the gang.

Sure some young asari recieve military training if they chose to. Which mean that it's not alot, or else asari society would be somewhat like the turian right?

Well yeah, but the codex does say they were a tribal race, and tribes fight. I'm thinking it's more for self-defense rather than military training. If your asari daughter is going out into the galaxy, you'd want her to be able to defend herself to a degree.

[Crimmsonwind]

Darth Cheesecake wrote...

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Darth Cheesecake wrote...

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Shavon wrote...

If you want to point out a questionable age in an Li, look at Tali. She was supposed to have been 17 or 18 in ME1, and of course, they retconned her age to '24' so romancing her wouldn't be pedo . . . and yet you're questioning Liara's age an maturity?

Think of it this way, if Liara is old and mature enough to spend years by herself, supporting herself researching old dig sites for Prothean artifacts, then it's safe to assume she's old enough to have a sexual relationship.

17 or 18 making someone a pedo?
What is the age of consent where you live?
Because in almost every area in my nation the age of consent is 16.
So even if Tali was 17 or 18 Shepard wouldn't be a pedo.

It's 18 in the US, and maybe Canada. But it's still generally considered creepy to have a guy who should be around thirty at the earliest to be shacking up with someone who JUST became an adult. It's legal, yes. But mildly disturbing.

Where in the US are you?
Because it's 16 in a good portion of the states.

New York. It's 16 down in the deep south, because well, it's the south.

It's 16 in Michigan.
You know the state that used to make all the cars.
That is slowly decaying with out said auto industry.
It's also 16 in Washington state, Oregon, California, and a host of other non-southern states.

I was joking. Man, you are not very friendly, are you.

[Crimmsonwind]

Darth Cheesecake wrote...

Crimmsonwind wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

Crimmsonwind wrote...

True. Liara did, but that might have been because of her mother. But all those Eclipse mercs had to learn it from somewhere, I'm pretty sure they don't just let any ol' asari into the gang.

Sure some young asari recieve military training if they chose to. Which mean that it's not alot, or else asari society would be somewhat like the turian right?

Well yeah, but the codex does say they were a tribal race, and tribes fight. I'm thinking it's more for self-defense rather than military training. If your asari daughter is going out into the galaxy, you'd want her to be able to defend herself to a degree.

Actually the Codex says that unlike Human tribes they negotiated and traded for what they needed.

Then why the need for huntresses? They still had to fight.

[Crimmsonwind]

Darth Cheesecake wrote...

Crimmsonwind wrote...

Darth Cheesecake wrote...

Crimmsonwind wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

Crimmsonwind wrote...

True. Liara did, but that might have been because of her mother. But all those Eclipse mercs had to learn it from somewhere, I'm pretty sure they don't just let any ol' asari into the gang.

Sure some young asari recieve military training if they chose to. Which mean that it's not alot, or else asari society would be somewhat like the turian right?

Well yeah, but the codex does say they were a tribal race, and tribes fight. I'm thinking it's more for self-defense rather than military training. If your asari daughter is going out into the galaxy, you'd want her to be able to defend herself to a degree.

Actually the Codex says that unlike Human tribes they negotiated and traded for what they needed.

Then why the need for huntresses? They still had to fight.

Saying that "tribes fight" implies a history similar to our own.
Theirs clearly wasn't.
There was most certainly conflict.
But nowhere near the scale or frequency that we are used to.

I didn't say they fight 24/7. I just said they fight. So please, man, lighten up. I'm just tyring to have a friendly discussion here.

Modifié par Crimmsonwind, 18 juin 2010 - 12:55 .

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Darth Cheesecake wrote...

Saying that "tribes fight" implies a history similar to our own.
Theirs clearly wasn't.
There was most certainly conflict.
But nowhere near the scale or frequency that we are used to.

Indeed. Most of the races in the game imply that humans are one the most violent races in citidal space with our history filled with blood.

[Crimmsonwind]

Darth Cheesecake wrote...

Crimmsonwind wrote...

Darth Cheesecake wrote...

Crimmsonwind wrote...

Darth Cheesecake wrote...

Crimmsonwind wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

Crimmsonwind wrote...

True. Liara did, but that might have been because of her mother. But all those Eclipse mercs had to learn it from somewhere, I'm pretty sure they don't just let any ol' asari into the gang.

Sure some young asari recieve military training if they chose to. Which mean that it's not alot, or else asari society would be somewhat like the turian right?

Well yeah, but the codex does say they were a tribal race, and tribes fight. I'm thinking it's more for self-defense rather than military training. If your asari daughter is going out into the galaxy, you'd want her to be able to defend herself to a degree.

Actually the Codex says that unlike Human tribes they negotiated and traded for what they needed.

Then why the need for huntresses? They still had to fight.

Saying that "tribes fight" implies a history similar to our own.
Theirs clearly wasn't.
There was most certainly conflict.
But nowhere near the scale or frequency that we are used to.

I didn't say they fight 24/7. I just said they fight. So please, man, lighten up. I'm just tyring to have a friendly discussion here.

*sigh* I am not trying to sound angry or perturbed.
Therfore I apologize.

It wasn't so much angry or perturbed as it was high-and-mighty. But, apology accepted.

Humans are definitely one of the more violent races, but we don't live as long as everyone else does. Although the Krogan are pretty violent ever since they nuked Tuchanka, and they live for a long time, too.

[ratzerman]

Systemlord Baal wrote...
She is an Asari. She is 108, even as human equivalent she'd be 108. There is no way she could or should be viewed as 16 or early 20s. She is 108. Full stop.

I agree with Baal. Asari and human cultures are so different, trying to come up with a relative age for Liara is kind of pointless.  Liara had been living on her own for decades before Shepard was even born.  But I suppose it would be human nature to apply our own cultural norms to an alien civilization.  So viewing Liara as someone in her early 20s makes sense, but only from a human perspective.

Modifié par ratzerman, 18 juin 2010 - 01:00 .

[Crimmsonwind]

ratzerman wrote...

Systemlord Baal wrote...
She is an Asari. She is 108, even as human equivalent she'd be 108. There is no way she could or should be viewed as 16 or early 20s. She is 108. Full stop.

I agree with Baal. Asari and human cultures are so different, trying to come up with a relative age for Liara is kind pointless.  Liara had been living on her own for decades before Shepard was even born.  But I suppose it would be human nature to apply our own cultural norms to an alien civilization.  So viewing Liara as someone in her early 20s makes sense, but only from a human perspective.

True dat.

[tmk]

Well the whole thing with human teenagers is that puberty causes a judgement impairment of sorts, which can cause them to make choices they'll regret later. And pre-puberty is, well, pre-puberty. We don't really know how long it lasts for asari and how it affects them, but it would seem to me that Liara is past that stage.

Pedophilia is attraction to pre-pubertant children btw. Attraction to teenagers is somewhat of a different animal. But, frankly, this is kinda going off on a tangent...

PS Actually it seems like the conversation has moved on much further away in time it took me to formulate a reply... 

Modifié par tmk, 18 juin 2010 - 01:06 .

[ratzerman]

Darth Cheesecake wrote...
Well we are humans so it most certainly makes sense.

Speak for yourself, Darth.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Darth Cheesecake wrote...

Sooo what does Liara do after Shepard dies for real?
I mean he/she's got maybe 120 years left which would leave her at around 230.
Where does she go from there?

Hopefully they will manage to have a child before SHepard dies. For what happend after he dies. Try read the eprologue to the fanfiction called "The distance between two stars"  it's sad yet sweet at the same time.

[Crimmsonwind]

Darth Cheesecake wrote...

Sooo what does Liara do after Shepard dies for real?
I mean he/she's got maybe 120 years left which would leave her at around 230.
Where does she go from there?

Bow chicka bow wow. 'Nuff said.

Seriously though? I don't know. I guess maybe go back to digging on her own. Or maybe if she's finally come out of her shell, move on, and find a new partner.

Modifié par Crimmsonwind, 18 juin 2010 - 01:05 .

[Crimmsonwind]

Darth Cheesecake wrote...

I get it now!
The entire ME story is just Liara telling her kid about "daddies" exploits.
It's all a flashback!

Modifié par Crimmsonwind, 18 juin 2010 - 01:08 .