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[Master Wolf]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

First off: Hi everybody!

Now to the discussion.

to start with. Yes it's actuelly made pretty clear that those salarians are completly gone or very close to. They don't respond to Shepard or the squad, nor do they respond when Shepard opens the door (to either kill or release) they just stand there. And while yes, they still have higher brainfunction. To what? Stand up without falling? I'd say that's almost as bad as just being in a vegetative state. You also argue for that Shepard doesn't know yet if the indoctrination can be cured. But remember this. Even if a cure did  excist those salarians are still screwed. Shepard won't have the time to cure them because his on an important mission. Where the longer he waits, the more STG members will perish.

Also. When you decide to shoot them, Shepard acutelly looks pretty sad or atleast takes absoloutly no pleasure in what he does, even through it's the right thing to do.

Doesn't matter. At that point, Shepard is still completely ignorant about everything regarding indoctrination, aside from the fact that it seems like an individuals consciousness is still present within the body but cannot control it in any way, like Benezia says on Noveria. It's only when we talk to Rana and Vigil that we begin to develop some understanding as to the effects of indoctrination. Hell, the salarians' may even still be fully conscious and aware of their surroundings inside their own bodies, but unable to control them in a manner similar to Benezia. Shooting and killing them is incredibly presumptuous, crass and callous.

Also, a murderer looks somewhat sad as he stabs an innocent victim. Does that make it okay?

Those salarians are in  more advance stage of indoctrination than Benezia and even Benezia says that she will never be the same, and Shiala also says that in the end the indoctrination is absolute.

[jlb524]

rynluna wrote...

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Also, one thing that makes me incredibly proud of Liara's fanbase is the fact that we almost completely abandon the use of Sheploo in our fanart and fanfic featuring her. We almost exclusively use custom Shepards, very often female too. I like that, as it showcases creativity and individuality. Plus, I hate Sheploo and he needs to keep his hands off of Liara. IMO, of course.

Where's the like button when you need it?

*presses like button*

[jlb524]

Metal-Dragon-Kiryu wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

Why?

Did a drawing of a female turian.

Gave her chest plates that hinted at the shape of breasts to make it easier for non-fans to understand.

Got ripped to pieces for it.

It just seemed like it was the same two or three morons who kept badgering you.  I think the piece was awesome, and you did get a lot of positive feedback.

[TMA LIVE]

Metal-Dragon-Kiryu wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

Why?

Did a drawing of a female turian.

Gave her chest plates that hinted at the shape of breasts to make it easier for non-fans to understand.

Got ripped to pieces for it.

Ah, k. Well, screw em. Everyone gets someone ripping everything you say or do to pieces. Don't see that as something to leave Deviant Art though. Just ignore them. They start harassing, then get their asses banned. Nuff said.

Modifié par TMA LIVE, 21 juin 2010 - 04:04 .

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

Have to agree to disagree then.

Agreed.

*handshake*

Oh, and don't take my above post the wrong way, Lizard.

Ahh don't worry LES. I haven't started crying or anything!

I'm just tired of the stupid Sheploo and maleshep basing in general.

[OrbitalWings]

rynluna wrote...

I'd like to see more Freya/Liara art in here. : D

Hehe, there is more on the way.

Once I have my current commissions out of the way - I have endless ideas for pics that I've either thought up myself, or have been given to me on this very thread.

Man is it nice to be among friends...

[jlb524]

Metal-Dragon-Kiryu wrote...

rynluna wrote...

I'd like to see more Freya/Liara art in here. : D

Hehe, there is more on the way.

Once I have my current commissions out of the way - I have endless ideas for pics that I've either thought up myself, or have been given to me on this very thread.

Man is it nice to be among friends...

Do you still plan on doing the Liara as an archaeologist pic?

I do think your Liara fan art is the best, so I'm glad you aren't completely discouraged and will keep on making Liara/Freya pics, as well as other stuff.

[jlb524]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Doesn't matter. At that point, Shepard is still completely ignorant about everything regarding indoctrination, aside from the fact that it seems like an individuals consciousness is still present within the body but cannot control it in any way, like Benezia says on Noveria. It's only when we talk to Rana and Vigil that we begin to develop some understanding as to the effects of indoctrination. Hell, the salarians' may even still be fully conscious and aware of their surroundings inside their own bodies, but unable to control them in a manner similar to Benezia. Shooting and killing them is incredibly presumptuous, crass and callous.

Really?  It seems we learn alot about it by then from Benezia and Shiala, enough to know of it's power (to take control of a very powerful Asari Matriarch, for example).

[Marcin K]

 pic-timeh!

[OrbitalWings]

jlb524 wrote...

Do you still plan on doing the Liara as an archaeologist pic?

I do think your Liara fan art is the best, so I'm glad you aren't completely discouraged and will keep on making Liara/Freya pics, as well as other stuff.

Indeed I do - that'll be one of the first in fact.

Hopefully it'll coincide with my fanfic - which will feature a scene that the archaeologist pic will essentially be an illustration of.

[bjdbwea]

People complain about what? I'm just glad the Liara fans are nice and decent people.



If I would be asked for my opinion on that picture, I would say that it's certainly well done, even though I don't understand the desire to see a female Turian in the first place, and I certainly don't find the result appealing on a romantic level. But that's just me, I never understood this interest in that kind of romances anyway, and yes, I do believe it's a different thing with the Asari.

[OrbitalWings]

bjdbwea wrote...

People complain about what? I'm just glad the Liara fans are nice and decent people.

If I would be asked for my opinion on that picture, I would say that it's certainly well done, even though I don't understand the desire to see a female Turian in the first place, and I certainly don't find the result appealing on a romantic level. But that's just me, I never understood this interest in that kind of romances anyway, and yes, I do believe it's a different thing with the Asari.

Actually I wasn't trying to make her look sexy in any way.

It was part of a community challenge to draw a female version of a species that we haven't yet seen, so I did turians.

However, for the pic in question - I gave her features she wouldn't neccesarily have (as turians are avian, they wouldn't have breasts) - this is because a lot of people who look at my page aren't ME fans, and I wanted to make it an accessable piece of art in it's own right.

In my defence they weren't even breasts - simply chest plates that gave a suggestion of breasts.

Wow....long rant there......needs more Liara!

Remember this WIP? I'll be finishing it very soon...

[TMA LIVE]

Testing. The Observer is always watching.

Modifié par TMA LIVE, 21 juin 2010 - 04:36 .

[TMA LIVE]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Whilst the drell species was designed around Thane, with his character first created and then Kolyat and Feron both based on his appearance, I wonder if the same holds true with Liara and the asari? Was Liara specifically designed first and the rest of the asari then based on her appearance, or did they design the asari first before then creating Liara's character?

After looking at Liara's first concept art, I'd say yes. Same with Garrus and Tali.

[Erinlana]

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