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[jtav]

For the sake of logic, your ME2 squad shouldn't start at level 1 either. It's just a game mechanic.

[Crimmsonwind]

Stormy-B wrote...

@Crimmsonwind I'm not saying that people should be fully leveled for the sake of gameplay, it would suck not getting to level up, but for the sake of logic alone.

Logically, storywise, we should still retain all of our abilities, yeah. But it's still a game, and a big part of the game is leveling up your abilities. If you take that away, you're taking a big chunk of the game. Don't get me wrong, I love ME dearly, but it is still a game. I like leveling up in RPGs.

I'm just not understanding why we're trying to use logic that doesn't fit in a game. X___X

[Master Wolf]

Liara would feel even worst if she knew that Shepard were implanted with reaper tecnology during his reconstruction.

[Crimmsonwind]

Master Wolf wrote...

Liara would feel even worst if she knew that Shepard were implanted with reaper tecnology during his reconstruction.

Aw man, I don't want her to feel even worse than she already does about the whole "giving you to Cerberus" thing...

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Crimmsonwind wrote...

Master Wolf wrote...

Liara would feel even worst if she knew that Shepard were implanted with reaper tecnology during his reconstruction.

Aw man, I don't want her to feel even worse than she already does about the whole "giving you to Cerberus" thing...

It would crush her. Bad enough she had to give the body to some of the worst bunch of people, but having also having them implant him with such inhuman technology? She would be abseloutly devastated. Especially if it had reporcussions in ME3.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Crimmsonwind wrote...

Master Wolf wrote...

Liara would feel even worst if she knew that Shepard were implanted with reaper tecnology during his reconstruction.

Aw man, I don't want her to feel even worse than she already does about the whole "giving you to Cerberus" thing...

It would crush her. Bad enough she had to give the body to some of the worst bunch of people, but having also having them implant him with such inhuman technology? She would be abseloutly devastated. Especially if it had reporcussions in ME3.

[Crimmsonwind]

Lizardviking wrote...

Crimmsonwind wrote...

Master Wolf wrote...

Liara would feel even worst if she knew that Shepard were implanted with reaper tecnology during his reconstruction.

Aw man, I don't want her to feel even worse than she already does about the whole "giving you to Cerberus" thing...

It would crush her. Bad enough she had to give the body to some of the worst bunch of people, but having also having them implant him with such inhuman technology? She would be abseloutly devastated. Especially if it had reporcussions in ME3.

Unless... it gave you laser vision. I think both Shepard and Liara could agree that that would be awesome.

In all seriousness though. Now that you mention it, I would have liked Miranda to elaborate on the "few extra bits and pieces" that were used to rebuild Shepard. When you look at the skeleton during that initial sequence you can see a lot of metal bits holding bones together, and wires and whatnot. But there was never a lot of "Ok, but what does all of this do?" And we ran into a few instances of Cerberus groups doing things behind TIM's back. Who's to say Miranda didn't actually put something in you that she wasn't supposed to? Uh oh.

Man, Liara's gonna need more coffee cups to crush people into.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Crimmsonwind wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

Crimmsonwind wrote...

Master Wolf wrote...

Liara would feel even worst if she knew that Shepard were implanted with reaper tecnology during his reconstruction.

Aw man, I don't want her to feel even worse than she already does about the whole "giving you to Cerberus" thing...

It would crush her. Bad enough she had to give the body to some of the worst bunch of people, but having also having them implant him with such inhuman technology? She would be abseloutly devastated. Especially if it had reporcussions in ME3.

Unless... it gave you laser vision. I think both Shepard and Liara could agree that that would be awesome.

In all seriousness though. Now that you mention it, I would have liked Miranda to elaborate on the "few extra bits and pieces" that were used to rebuild Shepard. When you look at the skeleton during that initial sequence you can see a lot of metal bits holding bones together, and wires and whatnot. But there was never a lot of "Ok, but what does all of this do?" And we ran into a few instances of Cerberus groups doing things behind TIM's back. Who's to say Miranda didn't actually put something in you that she wasn't supposed to? Uh oh.

Man, Liara's gonna need more coffee cups to crush people into.

I don't think Miranda would go rouge and do something like that. But I could imagin Cerberus having salvaged some intreresting tech from Sovereign. And TIM wanting Shepard to be the best human warrior, would have him implanted.

[Master Wolf]

Crimmsonwind wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

Crimmsonwind wrote...

Master Wolf wrote...

Liara would feel even worst if she knew that Shepard were implanted with reaper tecnology during his reconstruction.

Aw man, I don't want her to feel even worse than she already does about the whole "giving you to Cerberus" thing...

It would crush her. Bad enough she had to give the body to some of the worst bunch of people, but having also having them implant him with such inhuman technology? She would be abseloutly devastated. Especially if it had reporcussions in ME3.

Unless... it gave you laser vision. I think both Shepard and Liara could agree that that would be awesome.

In all seriousness though. Now that you mention it, I would have liked Miranda to elaborate on the "few extra bits and pieces" that were used to rebuild Shepard. When you look at the skeleton during that initial sequence you can see a lot of metal bits holding bones together, and wires and whatnot. But there was never a lot of "Ok, but what does all of this do?" And we ran into a few instances of Cerberus groups doing things behind TIM's back. Who's to say Miranda didn't actually put something in you that she wasn't supposed to? Uh oh.

Man, Liara's gonna need more coffee cups to crush people into.

At that point of the story Miranda trust completely in TIM and she would never do anything that he wouldn't order her to do.

Laser vision no but I hope that if Shepard was realy implanted with reaper tecnolegy that would make him live as long as Liara this will make her feel much beter.

[leeboi2]

I don't think Liara wants to kiss Shepard because...Hey, I wouldn't want to kiss someone who'd been dead for two years...Even if it was Fergie

[Master Wolf]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

I know.

There are many, many different aspects and dynamics to Liara's guilt and fear. Her guilt and self loathing for handing the corpse over to Cerberus, her fear that Shepard will hate her, her worry that Cerberus will flub up the Lazarus Project and bring Shepard back all wrong. Imagine what must be going through Liara's mind when a Renegade Shepard shows up with a deeply scarred face and glowing red eyes? She'd be distraught, she'd blame herself, and her self loathing and misery would only increase. The mere fact that her own love for Shepard caused her to hand the corpse over, because she couldn't bear to let go, is causing her so much pain. She's willing to risk Shepard hating her, just so that she can be revived. Liara would rather risk a Shepard that hates her, than Shepard being dead.

It's very, very sad.

They should have brought that topic in the conversation with Liara it would be something very interesting IMO. But they should also put a decent confort option in the end of the convertation perhaps a hug or a kiss.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Master Wolf wrote...
They should have brought that topic in the conversation with Liara it would be something very interesting IMO. But they should also put a decent confort option in the end of the convertation perhaps a hug or a kiss.

I'll think it would be better to say that anyone should have brought it up. Especially the old cast members. The only one who mentions the scars at all are Doctor. Chakwas in a e-mail.

[Stormy-B]

Speaking of reasons to make changes to explain changes between games, has anyone figured out a storyline for ME3 not including Shepard considered being rouge by the council?



I can see it before me, Shepard being screwed by the council and imprisoning him/her and Liara busting him/her out as the beginning of the game.

[Stormy-B]

I dont know why I write "speaking of" before I refresh the page to read the latest posts... Dammit.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Stormy-B wrote...

Speaking of reasons to make changes to explain changes between games, has anyone figured out a storyline for ME3 not including Shepard considered being rouge by the council?

I can see it before me, Shepard being screwed by the council and imprisoning him/her and Liara busting him/her out as the beginning of the game.

Being captured by pawns of the reapers is another possibility. And if they ever add the shadow broker's place in the game. Then the attack on his hideout could be the trap where Shepard is captured.

[TMA LIVE]

Have you guys every wondered if Shepard is just on borrowed time? You know, like say his body was only built to last 3 years, and by ME3, he/she only has one year left. How would you think that would impact Liara's relationship with Shepard?

Modifié par TMA LIVE, 26 juin 2010 - 06:20 .

[Stormy-B]

Lizardviking wrote...

Stormy-B wrote...

Speaking of reasons to make changes to explain changes between games, has anyone figured out a storyline for ME3 not including Shepard considered being rouge by the council?

I can see it before me, Shepard being screwed by the council and imprisoning him/her and Liara busting him/her out as the beginning of the game.

Being captured by pawns of the reapers is another possibility. And if they ever add the shadow broker's place in the game. Then the attack on his hideout could be the trap where Shepard is captured.

Good points.

[Stormy-B]

Now off to make dinner and then playing some ME1, cause I heard there's this cute alien in that game, she's all blue and a archeolagist, you know who I'm talking about?

[Cypher0020]

Oh I know.... I'm starting a new ME2 file with favorite Asari......I'll just keep picturing geeky ME1 Liara while Benezia 2.0 is talking to me in ME2....

[Master Wolf]

TMA LIVE wrote...

Have you guys every wondered if Shepard is just on borrowed time? You know, like say his body was only built to last 3 years, and by ME3, he/she only has one year left. How would you think that would impact Liara's relationship with Shepard?

That can happen but I think that cerberus rebuild Shepard with the short term goal of defeating the collectors but also thinking in the future treat of the reapers and they can take a considerable time to arrive and like TIM says Shepard is still their best hope so I belive that would rebuild Shepard to last.

From Liara prespective I imagine that would be huge despointment being reunited with Shepard just to lose him so soon and would make her handing the Shepard body to cerbeurs irrelevant from the she couldn't let go perspective.

[leeboi2]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Stormy-B wrote...

Now off to make dinner and then playing some ME1, cause I heard there's this cute alien in that game, she's all blue and a archeolagist, you know who I'm talking about?

Oh, is it the same adorable, amazing, intelligent, compassionate, loveable, caring, kind and downright sexy asari that I know?

Have fun!

I heard about her too! She's pretty damn jawesome I heard