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Yes, it would give ammunition to people that hate Liara and wan't to erroneously say X, Y, and Z about her....who cares about them?  If not this, they'd find something else to hate on her for.  Of course Shepard means the world to Liara, but she's not wishy-washy or immature or a 'ho' or whatever if she would have these feelings....they are normal and real people have them all the time, and we've seen stuff like this before in movies and such.


Of course, but are they consistent with Liara's characterisation? Do they make sense regarding everything she says about the asari union in ME1, and therefore showing how much Shepard means to her? Are we not then making judgements regarding her emotional maturity, or insinuating that she's somewhat shallow or unable to control her thoughts her feelings? I don't believe any of this to be the case. Liara is capable and confident. Shepard means that much to her. She's mature, responsible and level-headed enough to not merely jump into someone's arms, especially when she still absolutely adores the person she's fallen deeply in love with. It just doesn't corollate with her characterisation, IMO.

Are you for rlz?  People have flings with people they do not love all the time, even when they are in love with another.   And I don't think this would make her seem shallow, unstable, or would undercut the things she has said in ME1 either.


Betraying the trust and love of the person that she has fallen deeply in love for, trivialising said love and acting on what is nothing more than emotions that she herself does not believe to be true? Yeah, I think that undercuts what is said in ME1. Liara isn't someone who's like that, especially considering how much it's shown she cares for and loves Shepard in ME1. She's very much level-headed, and in control of her emotions.


But, Shepard can jump into the arms of another too.  Are you saying that Shepard's who take another LI in ME2 are shallow, unstable, flighty, not in control of their emotions, etc.?


No, I'd argue that it meant that the ME1 LIs didn't mean that much to that individual Shepard in the first place, and they never really took much stock of their previous relationship.


So, basically you just don't like it because of the haters.....screw the haters!   I just won't see Liara as 'weak'' if something like this happens. 


No! I hate it because I see it as being horribly OOC for Liara, and something she plain would not do. She's stronger than that, and more in control of everything she's feeling and experiencing.

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The BS Police wrote...

Liara has no romantic interest in Feron. Remember, the majority of the time they spent together chasing Shepard's body Feron kept on pissing Liara off because he kept on screwing everything up, they only began to show some mutual respect for one another in the last two issues and even then they barely even knew each other. Let's also not forget that even if Shepard did not get romantically involved with Liara she still may have feelings for him/her.


She doesn't show interest in him, this was just speculating on 'what ifs'.  It doesn't have to be him either....could be anyone else (I just used him as an example).

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The BS Police wrote...

People are looking way to much into Feron's character....

Liara has no romantic interest in Feron. Remember, the majority of the time they spent together chasing Shepard's body Feron kept on pissing Liara off because he kept on screwing everything up, they only began to show some mutual respect for one another in the last two issues and even then they barely even knew each other. Let's also not forget that even if Shepard did not get romantically involved with Liara she still may have feelings for him/her.

The fact of the matter is that Feron is more than likely dead anyway.

Yeah, but he is the only other character she has actual interaction with, so... I mean, the only stories I´ve read where their interactions could be considered close to romantic are some mangas, yet some people think there is/could be something between them.

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Hope you kept the base, Lizard, or you are headed for the worst ending...

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Nerevar-as wrote...

Hope you kept the base, Lizard, or you are headed for the worst ending...


I would have saved the base, if TIM was not the guy who would get it.

Still. I saved the council and rewrote the heretics.

But things are looking grim for me.

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A bit. The heretics are an unknown issue, but I guess the fail option there is sending Legion to Cerberus.

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You know what Les?!?!



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That!

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jlb524 wrote...

You know what Les?!?!

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That!


Agreed!!

How could you think such a thing of beauty and perfection could willingly betray love and trust that means the world to her to pursue shallow emotions that even she doesn't believe are real? How could you?!?! :crying:

Go and sit in the corner. You've hurt both mine and Liara's feelings!!

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Nerevar-as wrote...

A bit. The heretics are an unknown issue, but I guess the fail option there is sending Legion to Cerberus.


I always wondered why selling Legion to Cerberus is a renegade option. It's more of a wow-you-really-are-an-idiot thing to do.

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Lizardviking wrote...

Nerevar-as wrote...

A bit. The heretics are an unknown issue, but I guess the fail option there is sending Legion to Cerberus.


I always wondered why selling Legion to Cerberus is a renegade option. It's more of a wow-you-really-are-an-idiot thing to do.

They must have thought it fitted more with stupid evil than with stupid good, after all first thing you see of him is when he saves you.

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

How could you think such a thing of beauty and perfection could willingly betray love and trust that means the world to her to pursue shallow emotions that even she doesn't believe are real? How could you?!?! :crying:

Go and sit in the corner. You've hurt both mine and Liara's feelings!!


Those emotions aren't shallow, dammit!!!

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jlb524 wrote...

Those emotions aren't shallow, dammit!!!

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They are when she willing breaks the trust of the person she loves and cares about deeply, grrrrrrr!!!!!!

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Nerevar-as wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

Nerevar-as wrote...

A bit. The heretics are an unknown issue, but I guess the fail option there is sending Legion to Cerberus.


I always wondered why selling Legion to Cerberus is a renegade option. It's more of a wow-you-really-are-an-idiot thing to do.

They must have thought it fitted more with stupid evil than with stupid good, after all first thing you see of him is when he saves you.


Which is why I hate renegade. Since some of the renegade options are nothing more than chaotic stupid or plain illogical.

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I'm scaring Liara?



I'll stop now.



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They really should have chosen a better picture for the desk photograph. What the hell is going on with that blush?

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

They really should have chosen a better picture for the desk photograph. What the hell is going on with that blush?


I think it's okay. Beside, it could have been alot worse "COUGH"Ashleypicture"COUGH".

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I haz sexay side-glance!!



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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

They really should have chosen a better picture for the desk photograph. What the hell is going on with that blush?

Shepard said something naughty! :devil:

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Shepard said something naughty! :devil:


That's it! Both Shepard and Liara were on holiday on Noveria when that photograph was taken, staying in the hotel together. Shepard is the one who's holding the camera, and just prior to taking the photograph said something very dirty and naughty. Liara is blushing, and trying to surpress a giggle. It all makes sense now!

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Silently admiring each other's beauty!



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Why we can only have one picture and not a colection of photos of Liara that we could see any time we wanted in Shepard's personal terminal?It would be much beter perhaps we could even add some secrean shots to that colection it would be much beter.

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Master Wolf wrote...

Why we can only have one picture and not a colection of photos of Liara that we could see any time we wanted in Shepard's personal terminal?It would be much beter perhaps we could even add some secrean shots to that colection it would be much beter.


I modded it with the PC to switch out the old photo...replaced it with a better one!

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Master Wolf wrote...

Why we can only have one picture and not a colection of photos of Liara that we could see any time we wanted in Shepard's personal terminal?It would be much beter perhaps we could even add some secrean shots to that colection it would be much beter.


Why is it a picture at all?  Why isn't it a holo?  A holo of liara or perhaps of Shep and Liara kissing or hugging or something  would have been better for the pre-suicide mission scene.