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[Master Wolf]

I guess I will relace it too the next time I play ME2 use one of Liara's smiles after the confrontation sceane but the holo is even a beter idea.

Modifié par Master Wolf, 30 juin 2010 - 03:46 .

[jlb524]

JamieCOTC wrote...

Master Wolf wrote...

Why we can only have one picture and not a colection of photos of Liara that we could see any time we wanted in Shepard's personal terminal?It would be much beter perhaps we could even add some secrean shots to that colection it would be much beter.

Why is it a picture at all?  Why isn't it a holo?  A holo of liara or perhaps of Shep and Liara kissing or hugging or something  would have been better for the pre-suicide mission scene. 

Yeah, it's the future...still photos are lame!!

[Master Wolf]

Before the suicide mission IMO we should be able to use the debrifing room and talk to Liara we would talk to TIM and after he has finished he would redirect our comunication staight to Liara in real time and after the misson too to tell her that Shepard have survived. I imagine that this two conversation between Shepard and Liara would be very emotional.

Modifié par Master Wolf, 30 juin 2010 - 03:58 .

[pprrff]

Does anyone have any idea how old Liara is relative to other asari, like is she a teenager or young adult in her 20s? I just replayed ME1 and in one conversation she says she is almost considered a child. Which make her romance a little weird .....

Modifié par pprrff, 30 juin 2010 - 03:56 .

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Master Wolf wrote...

Before the suicide mission IMO we should be able to use the debrifing room and talk to Liara we would talk to TIM and after he has finished he would redirect our comunication staight to Liara in real time and after the misson too to tell her that Shepard have survived.

I was actually hoping for something like that pre-release. We'd contact to contact and converse with Liara at key story points throughout the game. Guess I was hoping for a little too much...

It's funny how badly Bioware managed to screw up Liara's cameo. I remember posting on the escapist board. Some guy were saying that ME2 was an improvement in every aspect. I of course disagreed with him and said what I useually criticise ME2 for, a terrible main, terrible cameo's.

Long story short: You want to hear his respond when I said the ME1 LI's cameo's were bad?

"It's hard to make good cameos for shallow characters".

I didn't bother posting after that.

[jlb524]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Master Wolf wrote...

Before the suicide mission IMO we should be able to use the debrifing room and talk to Liara we would talk to TIM and after he has finished he would redirect our comunication staight to Liara in real time and after the misson too to tell her that Shepard have survived.

I was actually hoping for something like that pre-release. We'd contact to contact and converse with Liara at key story points throughout the game. Guess I was hoping for a little too much...

Yeah, I thought the same....I need to start lowering my expectations.

[Master Wolf]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

I was actually hoping for something like that pre-release. We'd contact to contact and converse with Liara at key story points throughout the game. Guess I was hoping for a little too much...

I guess this didin't serve their plans for a "rocky relationship" in ME2  and besides it would make cheating more difficult and they didin't want that.

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

"It's hard to make good cameos for shallow characters".

>:|

I would've just posted the term "derp" in response and then been finished with it.

Nah. He posted his agruements in a constructive manner which would make me look like the whinning fanboy. Should I call him anything.

But still I didn't bother replying especially when he claimed that Wrex was te only good character in ME1 and maybe Garrus and Tali to a lesser extend.

[Sunnie]

Master Wolf wrote...

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

JamieCOTC wrote...

Jesus , Mary, and Joseph! You people wanted to kill the Rachni Queen? SciFi 101. If evil, delusional or incompetent scientists have successfully performed unethical experiments on a unknown species and then that species asks for mercy, then it is therefore good by default.

Exactly! People often cite the Rachni wars as evidence of their violent or aggressive nature, but it's pretty clear that they were indoctrinated into doing the Reapers' bidding. I'd release the queen every single time. Liara also advising to just strengthens my resolve.

I agree but at that point you know very litle of the indoctrination and you think that Saren is responsible for the indoctrination and Saren was not aroud during the Rachni wars. I always keep the Rachni alive because Liara asks of course but also because the queen always seemed honest when she says that she will not attack others peoples. 

Actually if you spend a few minutes asking questions, the Queen tells you that while she does not know why the Rachni went to war, she does know the songs of the Rachni were soured. It took me about 2 minutes to figure out that the Rachni were being influenced by something or someone that wanted to disrupt the peace in the galaxy.  And now thingking about it, I am starting to believe that the Reapers also artificially sped up the Krogans splitting the atom to cause the same thing earlier.

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

So, anybody hopeful that we'll get some kind of revelation in the Liara DLC regarding the Shadow Broker that shows just how abhorrent it is, and how it's a menace and threat to galactic security that needs to be stopped? I think Liara obviously believes so, and if that turns out to be true then Liara's hunt for the SB will appear to be justified in alot more people's eyes, I think. Those that trivialised her hunt before will sympathise with her. I want this to be the case.

The hunt for the shadow broker better be more than a petty vendetta. If it's not then I might just renegade-interupt Liara.

[Master Wolf]

Sunnie22 wrote...
Actually if you spend a few minutes asking questions, the Queen tells you that while she does not know why the Rachni went to war, she does know the songs of the Rachni were soured. It took me about 2 minutes to figure out that the Rachni were being influenced by something or someone that wanted to disrupt the peace in the galaxy.  And now thingking about it, I am starting to believe that the Reapers also artificially sped up the Krogans splitting the atom to cause the same thing earlier.

Well I tought that line was only in ME2, and I think that the krogans were sped up by the salarians to fight the Rachni Mordin compares giving the nuclears wepons to the krogan to give nuclear wepons to cave men.

Modifié par Master Wolf, 30 juin 2010 - 04:46 .

[Master Wolf]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

So, anybody hopeful that we'll get some kind of revelation in the Liara DLC regarding the Shadow Broker that shows just how abhorrent it is, and how it's a menace and threat to galactic security that needs to be stopped? I think Liara obviously believes so, and if that turns out to be true then Liara's hunt for the SB will appear to be justified in alot more people's eyes, I think. Those that trivialised her hunt before will sympathise with her. I want this to be the case.

I always see Liara hunt for the SB something more personal rather than something for the greater good, about he being a greater threat perhaps he is the one using his secrets to stop the council from admiting the reaper threat. 

[bjdbwea]

Master Wolf wrote...

Why we can only have one picture and not a colection of photos of Liara that we could see any time we wanted in Shepard's personal terminal?It would be much beter perhaps we could even add some secrean shots to that colection it would be much beter.

Very good idea. They could easily have implemented at least a small collection. No additional voice recordings or animations required. But of course, if they cared enough about the character to do that, they would first and foremost have made her role at least half-decent. Any good writer could easily make the scene much better even with the exact same amount of recorded words.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

I know this is completly off-topic. But you guys gotta help me here!



On some forums you can make post a youtube movie so people can wacht it from the forum. How do I that?

[Master Wolf]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Master Wolf wrote...
I always see Liara hunt for the SB something more personal rather than something for the greater good, about he being a greater threat perhaps he is the one using his secrets to stop the council from admiting the reaper threat. 

Maybe, but I like to think that with this data cache that she is now in possession of, Liara is fully aware of the extent in which the Shadow Broker could be aiding the Reapers, and how it may be an extremely useful and valuable asset to them. Liara knows that the SB is a threat to galactic peace, stability and civilization and needs to be stopped. Just like Shepard fought a pawn of the Reapers in Saren during the events of ME1, Liara is also fighting another slave to their cause and will. I hope something like that is eventually revealed.

I also think that the data cache may have something that tell how much involved the SB is with the reapers, IMO the problem with this is that I think that cerebus also have a copy of the data cache and while Liara would not tell Shepard in order to don't distract him from the current misson TIM probably would have told Shepard about the information.

[jlb524]

Sunnie22 wrote...

Actually if you spend a few minutes asking questions, the Queen tells you that while she does not know why the Rachni went to war, she does know the songs of the Rachni were soured. It took me about 2 minutes to figure out that the Rachni were being influenced by something or someone that wanted to disrupt the peace in the galaxy.  And now thingking about it, I am starting to believe that the Reapers also artificially sped up the Krogans splitting the atom to cause the same thing earlier.

Yeah, probably.  The wonky Halestrom sun (rom Tali's ME2 recruitment) might be their doing as well.

[jlb524]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

I know Feron instructs Liara to get the data back to Cerberus whatever the cost, but we don't actually know if Liara handed it over to Miranda or TIM. It's just kind of forgotten about. I'd like to think that Liara believes that the data is too sensitive to hand over to a terrorist organisation like Cerberus, and that she believes it is her responsibility to rectify the situation without the assistance of an organisation like Cerberus.

I think Liara does indeed hand it over.  If I recall, Miranda mentions something about it.