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[Master Wolf]

jlb524 wrote...

Sunnie22 wrote...

Actually if you spend a few minutes asking questions, the Queen tells you that while she does not know why the Rachni went to war, she does know the songs of the Rachni were soured. It took me about 2 minutes to figure out that the Rachni were being influenced by something or someone that wanted to disrupt the peace in the galaxy.  And now thingking about it, I am starting to believe that the Reapers also artificially sped up the Krogans splitting the atom to cause the same thing earlier.

Yeah, probably.  The wonky Halestrom sun (rom Tali's ME2 recruitment) might be their doing as well.

I have a theory about Halestrom in the codex says that eezo is the result of strars going super nova and the reapers will need eezo for the drive core of the new reapers that they will build during the invasion so when Soverin started his plans invading the galaxy he starts to speed up the star aging so when the reapers return they will have all the eezo they need.

Modifié par Master Wolf, 30 juin 2010 - 05:41 .

[jlb524]

I think the data may play a role in the future...why mention it at all? Why even show Feron taking the effort to download it while Liara distracted the Shadow Broker? It has to be important somewhere.

I do think Liara kept a copy for herself, but did give a full copy to Cerberus as well. I don't think she had the time to go through it and pick it apart.

Master Wolf wrote...

I have a theory about Halestrom in
the codex says that eezo is the result of stars going super nova and the
reapers will need eezo for the drive cores of the new reapers that they
will build during the invasion so when Soverin started his
plans for invading the galaxy he starts to speed up the stars aging so
when the reapers return they will have all the eezo they need.

That makes sense...we may see more stars like Halestrom in ME3 then.

Modifié par jlb524, 30 juin 2010 - 05:41 .

[Master Wolf]

Like I said I think that the SB is using is political influence to prevent that the council or any other major foce in the galaxy take action against the reapers, and probably it was him that sold the Normandy location to the collectors, was him that hired Wilson to recover Shepard's.For two years he was operating in the shaodows to help the reapers while Harbinger constructs one replacement for Soveringand Liara knew this all along and don't tell Shepard not only to not distract him but also because Shepard is not used to this kind of fight, but since the reapers are now decided to make a more direct assault on the galaxy the SB probably will not have a place in ME3 or it will be dealt with in the very beginig of ME3.

Modifié par Master Wolf, 30 juin 2010 - 06:05 .

[IndigoWolfe]

A little preview of what I'm currently working on. One of the reasons I've been so inactive on this thread for these past weeks, if anyone's noticed.







Finished when it's finished.

[jlb524]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Yes, a very effective way to reintroduce it into the story and narrative would be for it to be revealed that the data outlines the extent of which the Shadow Broker is assisting the Reapers, and how Liara has been aware of this fact for some time and feels that the SB is a threat that needs to be removed. I hope they feature and elaborate on this!

Yes, that would work.  There's a lot of potential here, so that's why I don't think the SB will be taken down just in DLC.

[jlb524]

Master Wolf wrote...

Like I said I think that the SB is using is political influence to prevent that the council or any other major foce in the galaxy take action against the reapers, and probably it was him that sold the Normandy location to the collectors, was him that hired Wilson to recover Shepard's.For two years he was operating in the shaodows to help the reapers while Harbinger constructs one replacement for Soveringand Liara knew this all along and don't tell Shepard not only to not distract him but also because Shepard is not used to this kind of fight, but since the reapers are now decided to make a more direct assault on the galaxy the SB probably will not have a place in ME3 or it will be dealt with in the very beginig of ME3.

I also think the SB was the one that hired Wilson to collect Shepard's body.  Why do you think the SB is helping the Reapers?  Is it indoctrination, or did he make a deal with the Reapers, similar to Saren? (you help us, we don't kill you and we will reward you with power!)

[jlb524]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Yes, very true. I do think that the Shadow Broker may have a very specific and influential role in the upcoming Reaper war, however. Like Vigil said in ME1, knowledge is power as far as the Reapers are concerned. By attack from dark space via the Citadel relay, they instantly acquire all political, economic, military and census data for the entirety of galactic civilisation. They then use this information to begin the systematic genocide of all sapient life. With the Citadel relay now inaccessible, the Reapers no longer have this potent weapon at their disposal. What's the best alternative? The most powerful and influential information broker in the galaxy. A lightly indoctrinated Shadow Broker is a very useful and powerful tool for the Reapers. Again, they instantly gain all knowledge of galactic civilisation. The SB is something the Reapers can use.

That's a good point...I think in this case, they might have went to the SB and offered him a deal like Saren (as I mentioned above).

So, the SB might not even be indoctrinated yet, as the Reapers would need the SB operating at his full potential.  Therefore, he is possibly willingly assisting the Reapers, as they offered him power/riches/life.  The SB is all about looking out for number 1 and wheeling and dealing to achieve that.

[kraidy1117]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

Yes, that would work.  There's a lot of potential here, so that's why I don't think the SB will be taken down just in DLC.

You know what I'm thinking now? That the Liara DLC will have both Shepard and Liara assault a major Shadow Broker base, learn of Feron's fate and face Tazzik as the mission's boss battle. After which, Liara is then on the cusp of finding the SB and this will be carried over into ME3. A likely scenario, I feel!

Youy stole my idea!!!!!

[Master Wolf]

jlb524 wrote...
I also think the SB was the one that hired Wilson to collect Shepard's body.  Why do you think the SB is helping the Reapers?  Is it indoctrination, or did he make a deal with the Reapers, similar to Saren? (you help us, we don't kill you and we will reward you with power!)

I belive after the SB failure in recover Shepard body Harbinger would not let that slide but insted of killing him he decided to use him and indoctrinated him, I don't think that the reapers would trust anyone to serve them if they were not indoctrinated (this was the case with Saren despite the deal Sovering still used the indoctrination) much less someone like the SB.

Modifié par Master Wolf, 30 juin 2010 - 06:31 .

[kraidy1117]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Youy stole my idea!!!!!

Nuh-uh! It's my idea!

Nuh-huh!!!! I have been saying that for weeks now!!!!! Dam Liara fans

[kraidy1117]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...
Nuh-huh!!!! I have been saying that for weeks now!!!!! Dam Liara fans

=O Don't hurt me Liara!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am sorry

[kraidy1117]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Hmmm, maybe the Shadow Broker bribed the warden on Purgatory too? The Reapers are so arrogant and egotistical, they'd order the SB to recover Shepard no matter what the cost.

Liara is protecting Shepard from it!

I have a feeling the SB was pulling alot of strings in the background, just like TIM. Which is why if they do SB DLC, we will only see a a epic meeting with the SB, Liara and Shepard, Taz fight, SB get's away but Liara gets all his data and information. Cue ME3.

[jlb524]

Master Wolf wrote...

I belive after the SB failure in recover Shepard body Harbinger would not let that slide but insted of killing him he decided to use him and indoctrinated him, I don't think that the reapers would trust anyone to serve them if they were not indoctrinated (this was the case with Saren despite the deal Sovering still used the indoctrination) much less someone like the SB.

Yeah, SB's failure in Redemption could have prompted Harby to indoctrinate him.  It seems like the process is slow and the organic isn't always aware that it is happening (until it's too late).  This is the vibe I got from the Reaper IFF mission in ME2, at least.

[Nerevar-as]

Well, SB for the Collectors or the Collectors on their own, there isn´t really anyone else related to the story. I just hope there is a reason he just doesn´t kill Liara, there should be as she points out Nyxeris (sp?) wasn´t there to kill her.

[kraidy1117]

jlb524 wrote...

Master Wolf wrote...

I belive after the SB failure in recover Shepard body Harbinger would not let that slide but insted of killing him he decided to use him and indoctrinated him, I don't think that the reapers would trust anyone to serve them if they were not indoctrinated (this was the case with Saren despite the deal Sovering still used the indoctrination) much less someone like the SB.

Yeah, SB's failure in Redemption could have prompted Harby to indoctrinate him.  It seems like the process is slow and the organic isn't always aware that it is happening (until it's too late).  This is the vibe I got from the Reaper IFF mission in ME2, at least.

And Saren. Saren only relises because of Shepard. We see Saren break free a couple of times, once during Virmire, and a couple of times at the council chambers. The Reaper IFF is the best example tho, but also creates a massive plothole

[jlb524]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Hmmm, maybe the Shadow Broker bribed the warden on Purgatory too? The Reapers are so arrogant and egotistical, they'd order the SB to recover Shepard no matter what the cost.

Liara is protecting Shepard from it!

Oh yeah, another good point.  I'm sure Cerberus paid them a large amount of money for Jack...why risk losing that money to capture Shepard?  The SB could offer way more for Shepard's body.

[bjdbwea]

IndigoWolfe wrote...

A little preview of what I'm currently working on. One of the reasons I've been so inactive on this thread for these past weeks, if anyone's noticed.



Finished when it's finished.

I like it. Only the neck should be a little shorter and/or thicker. It's the well-known "ME style" I guess, but still.