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[jlb524]

I'm just wondering if Liara was just hanging out after Shepard's death and not actively searching for the body, then received a tip and then she started looking. Or, was she always actively looking for the body just because she wanted to achieve 'Redemption' for watching her Commander/friend/lover die, then received the tip that led her to Omega?



Everyone seems to have a different opinion on this.

[Master Wolf]

jlb524 wrote...

I'm just wondering if Liara was just hanging out after Shepard's death and not actively searching for the body, then received a tip and then she started looking. Or, was she always actively looking for the body just because she wanted to achieve 'Redemption' for watching her Commander/friend/lover die, then received the tip that led her to Omega?

Everyone seems to have a different opinion on this.

It's difficult to say because for what we see in Redemption when she arrives at Omega she don't even know if she is loking for a death body or for a living person. We don't have much explanation about what happened since the destruction of the Normandy until Liara arrival at Omega.

Modifié par Master Wolf, 30 juin 2010 - 07:14 .

[Master Wolf]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

That latter, I believe. Why would TIM contact Liara if she wasn't actually searching for the corpse herself? He could have just as easily contacted Garrus, Tali, Ashley or Kaidan. But no, Liara is unique as she had actually resolved to find the corpse. TIM saw her, and her devotion to Shepard, as something he could manipulate for his own gains. He says as much in Redemption.

The fact that he doesn't contact any other squadmate don't have a story reason I think it's because Ashley or Kaiden might be death, Garrus may not have been recruited and Wrex may also be death. Tali i don't know if you can refuse to recruit her.It jus to safeguard the players choice like the fact that Liara don't say anithing specific of her relationship with Shepard.

Modifié par Master Wolf, 30 juin 2010 - 07:21 .

[jlb524]

Tali was definitely alive, and you did need to recruit her too. She would have been the only other option.

[Nerevar-as]

I thought the "Redemption" title went more for Feron than for Liara really.

TIM using Liara instead of his own people would have left SB clueless for a time as for where to look for the body, but Feron´s capture screwed that plan.

[Master Wolf]

jlb524 wrote...

Tali was definitely alive, and you did need to recruit her too. She would have been the only other option.

Then between those two  they used Liara because is some one that have a more close relantionship with Shepard and can even be a LI.

Modifié par Master Wolf, 30 juin 2010 - 07:24 .

[jlb524]

From the meta perspective, they could have also used a non-squad mate character that was still alive (Anderson), or introduced a new character for the comic (like Feron)....even used Miranda/Jacob (or Tali likeI said). They really didn't have to use Liara as the main character...it seems like they want her to be the one that does all this and tangles with the SB.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

jlb524 wrote...

Tali was definitely alive, and you did need to recruit her too. She would have been the only other option.

Tali moved back to the migrant fleet after the destruction of the SR-1.

Garrus had left the crew after the hunt for Saren was over and was on the Citidal where he either trained for spectre (renegade) working in C-sec (paragon) or picking his nose (Indecisive).

Wrex had also left the crew after the hunt for Saren and went back to Tuchanka.

Kaidan/Ashley were stationed somewhere else after the SR-1 destruction.

In short: Liara was the only one who was able to go searching for Shepard's body.

Modifié par Lizardviking, 30 juin 2010 - 07:28 .

[Nerevar-as]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Nerevar-as wrote...

I thought the "Redemption" title went more for Feron than for Liara really.
TIM using Liara instead of his own people would have left SB clueless for a time as for where to look for the body, but Feron´s capture screwed that plan.

I wouldn't have thought so. Liara even name drops the title at one point, I think during the second issue. It definitely refers to her and her quest to ease her own guilt, I think.

There was a dialog between them in 3 or 4 where Feron gave the same impression. Maybe it went for them both?

[Master Wolf]

jlb524 wrote...

From the meta perspective, they could have also used a non-squad mate character that was still alive (Anderson), or introduced a new character for the comic (like Feron)....even used Miranda/Jacob (or Tali likeI said). They really didn't have to use Liara as the main character...it seems like they want her to be the one that does all this and tangles with the SB.

To keep her out of the team and far from Shepard.

Modifié par Master Wolf, 30 juin 2010 - 07:30 .

[Master Wolf]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Yeah. I think what Redemption was doing was setting up Liara's current character and story arc as featured in ME2. It seems like the decision was made a long time ago that Liara and the Shadow Broker would become adversaries, and that her role in the story would follow this path. If we believe the speculation as to what the original ME2 prologue was like, then again Liara would have tangled with the SB, this time with Legion in tow. Seems like they decided on Liara's story role a long time ago.

This makes sence but if they have the comic and even Liara story planed for a long time why it's donne so badly both her story in ME2 and the comic?

[jlb524]

I do know they have mapped out the main story for the entire trilogy...I wonder if they have also done this for the original ME1 crew?



They say they have big plans for them in ME3 (the old LIs, at least) and they had to be saved from the evil ME2 suicide mission. I wonder if this SB/Liara info broker thing was even planned when the original design of the Liara character was undertaken pre-ME1?



Or, was it really just a hasty story-arc they threw together at the last minute to keep her out of ME2....

[Nerevar-as]

Wait and see for DLC and/or ME3. Not that optimistic after they proved they rather use bad writing than dropping a plot they couldn´t write properly.

EDIT: the cheating plot better be really worth that.

Modifié par Nerevar-as, 30 juin 2010 - 07:39 .

[Master Wolf]

jlb524 wrote...

I do know they have mapped out the main story for the entire trilogy...I wonder if they have also done this for the original ME1 crew?

They say they have big plans for them in ME3 (the old LIs, at least) and they had to be saved from the evil ME2 suicide mission. I wonder if this SB/Liara info broker thing was even planned when the original design of the Liara character was undertaken pre-ME1?

Or, was it really just a hasty story-arc they threw together at the last minute to keep her out of ME2....

If they have the trilogy planed since the beginig then Liara and SB story arc will have no meaning because if the audio files shows something is that the SB are easly kiiled and without any kind of ramifications.

[jlb524]

Then it was probably just a last minute hack job to keep her out of ME2.