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jlb524 wrote...

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I have wondered this, but I'm not sure how they will implement it in the game. The ME1 LIs probably won't find out Shepard's 'new gal/guy' (if there is one) until ME3. I doubt it will be from monitoring devices (they won't come across a sex tape on youtube with Shepard and the new LI or something like that), but I think they will just find out from ship scuttlebutt...Joker, for instance.


Sex tapes!? Well there are monitors in creepy Zaeed's "room". Image IPB I was also trying to work through implementation...but there are so many variables!

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How will they implement this in game? I just think that, once you talk to Liara for the first or second time in ME3, if you had a ME2 LI, she will ask you about them and if you have stronger feelings for this person or for her. You can either shoot her down here or affirm your love for her and decide to continue on with just Liara (ending the other relationship). This is all they did in ME2 if you were romancing two people at once (like Miranda and Tali...Miranda would just ask you to choose between herself and Tali and you would have to pick one).



I don't even expect a confrontation scene anymore, really. As to how Liara would find out about this other person, she might mention that she heard a rumor about you and ME2 LI X when she brings it up.

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You are probably right, it will be that simple. It sucks that there will likely be little in-game follow through to the many backstories we have been analyzing.

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I am very happy that Liara will never have to go through this whole "cheating thing"  with my Shepard. Image IPB

Interesting subject nonetheless.

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muskettman87 wrote...

I am very happy that Liara will never have to go through this whole "cheating thing"  with my Shepard. Image IPB

Interesting subject nonetheless.


Me too! Image IPB 

I just wonder how they are going to tackle all of these possibilites with substance and meaning in ME3, and hoping they don't screw Shep and Li over any more than they already have.  

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jlb524 wrote...

How will they implement this in game? I just think that, once you talk to Liara for the first or second time in ME3, if you had a ME2 LI, she will ask you about them and if you have stronger feelings for this person or for her. You can either shoot her down here or affirm your love for her and decide to continue on with just Liara (ending the other relationship). This is all they did in ME2 if you were romancing two people at once (like Miranda and Tali...Miranda would just ask you to choose between herself and Tali and you would have to pick one).


I hate that... it's so professional and souless.

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I think the confrontation between Liara and ME2 LIs won't have as much thought or drama put into it then, say, Ash/Kaidan. Only because, Ash/Kaidan each have 3 LIs to deal with (respectivly). While Liara could potentially have to deal with all 6 ME2 LIs.

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muskettman87 wrote...

I think the confrontation between Liara and ME2 LIs won't have as much thought or drama put into it then, say, Ash/Kaidan. Only because, Ash/Kaidan each have 3 LIs to deal with (respectivly). While Liara could potentially have to deal with all 6 ME2 LIs.


muskett I am taking this comment and posting it anonymously in my character discussion group

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Nightwriter wrote...

muskettman87 wrote...

I think the confrontation between Liara and ME2 LIs won't have as much thought or drama put into it then, say, Ash/Kaidan. Only because, Ash/Kaidan each have 3 LIs to deal with (respectivly). While Liara could potentially have to deal with all 6 ME2 LIs.


muskett I am taking this comment and posting it anonymously in my character discussion group

No problem. Feel free to use it.

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muskettman87 wrote...

I think the confrontation between Liara and ME2 LIs won't have as much thought or drama put into it then, say, Ash/Kaidan. Only because, Ash/Kaidan each have 3 LIs to deal with (respectivly). While Liara could potentially have to deal with all 6 ME2 LIs.


Possible.  I think given 12 possibilities, all of these scenes will suffer.

In ME1, you only had 2 possibilities (Liara/Kaidan or Liara/Ashley).  So, we got a small scene were you picked one, and these scenes did differ a bit, depending on whether it was Kaidan or Ashley.

In ME2, you had 6 possibilities (Miranda/Tali, Miranda/Jack, Jack/Tali, Garrus/Thane, Garrus/Jacob, Thane/Jacob) so we got nuthin' as far as confrontations go.  They don't confront you together, like I said before, one will ask you about the other and you just pick one.

Now, they will have double that in ME3 (and lawd knows if there will be new LIs to deal with)...they might just take the lazier ME2 approach.

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jlb524 wrote...

muskettman87 wrote...

I think the confrontation between Liara and ME2 LIs won't have as much thought or drama put into it then, say, Ash/Kaidan. Only because, Ash/Kaidan each have 3 LIs to deal with (respectivly). While Liara could potentially have to deal with all 6 ME2 LIs.


Possible.  I think given 12 possibilities, all of these scenes will suffer.

In ME1, you only had 2 possibilities (Liara/Kaidan or Liara/Ashley).  So, we got a small scene were you picked one, and these scenes did differ a bit, depending on whether it was Kaidan or Ashley.

In ME2, you had 6 possibilities (Miranda/Tali, Miranda/Jack, Jack/Tali, Garrus/Thane, Garrus/Jacob, Thane/Jacob) so we got nuthin' as far as confrontations go.  They don't confront you together, like I said before, one will ask you about the other and you just pick one.

Now, they will have double that in ME3 (and lawd knows if there will be new LIs to deal with)...they might just take the lazier ME2 approach.

Thats a very good point, J. Thinking about it now, I'm not expecting any big confrontations.

I guess Liara's scene won't suffer anymore than Ash/|Kaidan's will. With 12 possibilities in total the whole thing gets put into perspective and the thought of a confrontation seems kind of unlikely now, IMO.

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About the queen in ME1 remenber she saying that she didin't know why the Rachni atacked but I don't remember well that conversation so I can be wrong. But the krogan were uplifted by the salarians to fight the Rachni and they nuked their own planet after the krogan rebelions Mordin says that blame the salarians for what the krogan did because the salarians gave technology to the krogan  for wich they were not ready to have.


They nuked themselves into stone age before the rebellions, not after. Mordin talks about them not being ready to be a spacefaring race - they were still too aggressive and started attacking everyone else once the Rachni were dealt with.

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Considering what has been discussed regarding the unlikelihood of any kind of romance confrontation in ME3, what I think will happen is that at some point early on in the game the ME1 LI will approach Shepard alone. If you cheated in ME2, the LI will then challenge Shepard and ask the Commander to clarify their feelings and possibly select one LI. If you remained loyal, then the ME1 LI will still approach Shepard, but instead you'll recieve a special scene and dialogue as a reward for staying faithful throughout the entire trilogy. I think that's extremely plausible.

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Considering what has been discussed regarding the unlikelihood of any kind of romance confrontation in ME3, what I think will happen is that at some point early on in the game the ME1 LI will approach Shepard alone. If you cheated in ME2, the LI will then challenge Shepard and ask the Commander to clarify their feelings and possibly select one LI. If you remained loyal, then the ME1 LI will still approach Shepard, but instead you'll recieve a special scene and dialogue as a reward for staying faithful throughout the entire trilogy. I think that's extremely plausible.


You will get a extra kiss.... :P

Modifié par kraidy1117, 01 juillet 2010 - 08:41 .


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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Considering what has been discussed regarding the unlikelihood of any kind of romance confrontation in ME3, what I think will happen is that at some point early on in the game the ME1 LI will approach Shepard alone. If you cheated in ME2, the LI will then challenge Shepard and ask the Commander to clarify their feelings and possibly select one LI. If you remained loyal, then the ME1 LI will still approach Shepard, but instead you'll recieve a special scene and dialogue as a reward for staying faithful throughout the entire trilogy. I think that's extremely plausible.


IMO that extra sceane will be Shepard conforting Liara about what happened, and show Liara that he loves her even more than before and probably the sceane will end with Shepard and Liara embracing eternety together.

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Considering what has been discussed regarding the unlikelihood of any kind of romance confrontation in ME3, what I think will happen is that at some point early on in the game the ME1 LI will approach Shepard alone. If you cheated in ME2, the LI will then challenge Shepard and ask the Commander to clarify their feelings and possibly select one LI. If you remained loyal, then the ME1 LI will still approach Shepard, but instead you'll recieve a special scene and dialogue as a reward for staying faithful throughout the entire trilogy. I think that's extremely plausible.


I sincerly hope that the ME3 LI confrontation will come late in the game. Because if they won't, then everyone who cheated will pick the ME2 option because the ME1 LI will be nothing more than some selfish ****** who whines. And if everyone picked the ME2 options then Casey little ego is gonna get boosted and we're gonna hear how "ME2 cast truly were far more compelling" in every bloody interview.

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There will be a confrontation. Romances are one of the most popular aspects of ME3, and the creators have said there would be consequences for cheating. Don't count out Bioware yet.

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Spornicus wrote...

There will be a confrontation. Romances are one of the most popular aspects of ME3, and the creators have said there would be consequences for cheating. Don't count out Bioware yet.


They also said we could continue oue ME romance in ME2 and we all know how that turned out <_<

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Spornicus wrote...

There will be a confrontation. Romances are one of the most popular aspects of ME3, and the creators have said there would be consequences for cheating. Don't count out Bioware yet.


Of course I know there will a confrontation! I just said that it should be later in the game. So there will be givin enough time to improve the ME1 LI's image, and to put the ME2 LI's in a negative light.

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I sincerly hope that the ME3 LI confrontation will come late in the game. Because if they won't, then everyone who cheated will pick the ME2 option because the ME1 LI will be nothing more than some selfish ****** who whines. And if everyone picked the ME2 options then Casey little ego is gonna get boosted and we're gonna hear how "ME2 cast truly were far more compelling" in every bloody interview.


I see your point but I prefer that they do a possible confrontation in the begining because doesn't make much sence in terms of story that you have two LI's during a large part of the game besides that would reduce the content of the romance in ME3 since things will not move foward until Shepard decide and it's the final part of the trilogy if Liara and Shepard romance story in ME3 is good and they have a good and happy ending I don't care what the other people might do, or what he and his ego might think.

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Lizardviking wrote...

Spornicus wrote...

There will be a confrontation. Romances are one of the most popular aspects of ME3, and the creators have said there would be consequences for cheating. Don't count out Bioware yet.


Of course I know there will a confrontation! I just said that it should be later in the game. So there will be givin enough time to improve the ME1 LI's image, and to put the ME2 LI's in a negative light.


All I know is that if Bioware pulls the same sh*t they did with the ME LI wih the ME2 lI, I don't think my heart could take it.

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Lizardviking wrote...

Spornicus wrote...

There will be a confrontation. Romances are one of the most popular aspects of ME3, and the creators have said there would be consequences for cheating. Don't count out Bioware yet.


Of course I know there will a confrontation! I just said that it should be later in the game. So there will be givin enough time to improve the ME1 LI's image, and to put the ME2 LI's in a negative light.


All I know is that if Bioware pulls the same sh*t they did with the ME LI wih the ME2 lI, I don't think my heart could take it.


It shouldn't be as bad as the ME1 LI's in ME2. BUt enough to put the ratio of people who went back to the ME1 LI to 40-50% of those who cheated.

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Lizardviking wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

Spornicus wrote...

There will be a confrontation. Romances are one of the most popular aspects of ME3, and the creators have said there would be consequences for cheating. Don't count out Bioware yet.


Of course I know there will a confrontation! I just said that it should be later in the game. So there will be givin enough time to improve the ME1 LI's image, and to put the ME2 LI's in a negative light.


All I know is that if Bioware pulls the same sh*t they did with the ME LI wih the ME2 lI, I don't think my heart could take it.


It shouldn't be as bad as the ME1 LI's in ME2. BUt enough to put the ratio of people who went back to the ME1 LI to 40-50% of those who cheated.


I don't think my heart could take it again. It was bad enough Bioware ripped it out, stomped on it, stabed it and spat on it and gave it back to me during the ME LI cameo scenes.

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I'm not jumping to any conclusions until Star Wars: The Old Republic is finished. Then we'll start hearing things on ME3.