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Aaah, OK. looks great. Love how you got her blue eyes.....

So we were both wrong?


Yup. I'm afraid we both fail :(

Anywho, now that I've finally finished that sig I'm going to start working on that pic you wanted. I got the cloud shot and I know which Liara image I need to use. :happy:


awesome....!!!:wizard:


I finally got inspiration for a pic to draw....i'm going to put Liara in Lighntning's uniform.....


I bought the game today, I haven't played it yet though.

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justinnstuff wrote...

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I'm a guy whose FemSheps all love Liara (it's not just the sex, mind -- I'm not a complete pig over hereB)), and I agree with everything that you and Stubbs wrote. The only question I have is...how certain are you that a Liara-based expansion is coming for ME2?


Sitting on the PC is a file that says "liara_dlc_something". We know there are high hopes for a Liara based DLC in the future. A full expansion? I think that's people thinking the Shadow Broker plot is going to be really really big.


Thanks for the info. I had meant to say DLC, so that makes sense. The ME series doesn't seem like it'd get any expansion packs as we know them to be...

Edit: ME2 is in-freaking-credible in its overall presentation. It's like the upgrade in story and production values from Star Wars:  A New Hope and The Empire Strikes Back, but bigger.... :D

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justinnstuff wrote...

Goodwood wrote...
I'm a guy whose FemSheps all love Liara (it's not just the sex, mind -- I'm not a complete pig over hereB)), and I agree with everything that you and Stubbs wrote. The only question I have is...how certain are you that a Liara-based expansion is coming for ME2?


Sitting on the PC is a file that says "liara_dlc_something". We know there are high hopes for a Liara based DLC in the future. A full expansion? I think that's people thinking the Shadow Broker plot is going to be really really big.


Fully agreed.  I'm convinced we're getting something no matter what, but I'm hoping for something as substantial as an expansion, because even if Liara didn't deserve it on her own, and she does IMO -- the freaking Shadow Broker does.  I'd personally like a) a DLC with some missions and some dialogue to illuminate further what LiLi went through -- and a few more for us Liara-romancers, of course -- ending with Liara looking more hopeful (and by my math, this kind of DLC could be pre-Omega-4 though probably post Collector Ship -- maybe it could be what Shepard needs to do to square him/herself away?  Something like that); and B) a larger expansion, maybe released within almost spitting distance of ME3, or as near as makes no odds, that either involves a certain coffee cup related threat or comes thisclose to SB himself, takes place post-Game, and involves both ME1 LI survivors in some substantial way. 
This pack, in my eyes, would end either with the ME1 LI on board or promising to join Shepard as soon as some loose ends are tied down, probably the latter, considering it plays closer to a no-LI playthrough, and we have to remember some people (including a friend of mine) specifically played through both games without love interests, often for immersion's sake -- I mean Shepard is military, and it's pretty clear to the military mind that romance on the job is a bad idea on many levels; that's actually why Liara tends to stay on the ship towards the end of the game, when I'm roleplaying a playthrough (she's got to be there, but best to have her where I won't likely have to order her to be put in moral peril if I can help it).  Though my friend romanced Kaidan and lost him on Virmire just to be 'tragic'.  Which I guess works, too...:unsure:...

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Yeah, I know what you're saying there. ME2 felt so...empty...without Liara on the Normandy. And it seemed almost like an insult to only have us do a few bits with/for her. The reunion was nice, but there was little else beyond that. It just doesn't make sense.

Yes, with the comic being what it is, I would say that she is the co-star, almost Shepard's destined love interest (I like those kinds of cosmic implications).

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Fully agreed.  I'm convinced we're getting something no matter what, but I'm hoping for something as substantial as an expansion, because even if Liara didn't deserve it on her own, and she does IMO -- the freaking Shadow Broker does.  I'd personally like a) a DLC with some missions and some dialogue to illuminate further what LiLi went through -- and a few more for us Liara-romancers, of course -- ending with Liara looking more hopeful (and by my math, this kind of DLC could be pre-Omega-4 though probably post Collector Ship -- maybe it could be what Shepard needs to do to square him/herself away?  Something like that); and B) a larger expansion, maybe released within almost spitting distance of ME3, or as near as makes no odds, that either involves a certain coffee cup related threat or comes thisclose to SB himself, takes place post-Game, and involves both ME1 LI survivors in some substantial way. 
This pack, in my eyes, would end either with the ME1 LI on board or promising to join Shepard as soon as some loose ends are tied down, probably the latter, considering it plays closer to a no-LI playthrough, and we have to remember some people (including a friend of mine) specifically played through both games without love interests, often for immersion's sake -- I mean Shepard is military, and it's pretty clear to the military mind that romance on the job is a bad idea on many levels; that's actually why Liara tends to stay on the ship towards the end of the game, when I'm roleplaying a playthrough (she's got to be there, but best to have her where I won't likely have to order her to be put in moral peril if I can help it).  Though my friend romanced Kaidan and lost him on Virmire just to be 'tragic'.  Which I guess works, too...:unsure:...


Yeah the Shadow Broker is going to be a main character soon, well he always was, I just mean in the spotlight. Kind of ironic for him. I would love it if they tied in the DLC to fix up the reunion scene but I don't think that's going to happen. My guess is it's going to be something after the suicide mission. If they're reading any of this, I'm guessing though that her dialogue will be much more involved if she's an LI this time around. I really hope it is. If she could join up on the Normandy again... I'd probably melt into a puddle! As for the Kaidan thing... yeah that would be hard for me to RP no matter what... I'd just keep my Shep single.

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Goodwood wrote...

Yeah, I know what you're saying there. ME2 felt so...empty...without Liara on the Normandy. And it seemed almost like an insult to only have us do a few bits with/for her. The reunion was nice, but there was little else beyond that. It just doesn't make sense.

I was hoping for some more conversation with her after I finished the game.
But sadly she just said the same thing about that Shadow Broker to me.:unsure:

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Goodwood wrote...

Yeah, I know what you're saying there. ME2 felt so...empty...without Liara on the Normandy. And it seemed almost like an insult to only have us do a few bits with/for her. The reunion was nice, but there was little else beyond that. It just doesn't make sense.

I was hoping for some more conversation with her after I finished the game.
But sadly she just said the same thing about that Shadow Broker to me.:unsure:


There was no dialogue whatsoever after the suicide  mission. I was like "what the shii----" just like joker.

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justinnstuff wrote...

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Goodwood wrote...

Yeah, I know what you're saying there. ME2 felt so...empty...without Liara on the Normandy. And it seemed almost like an insult to only have us do a few bits with/for her. The reunion was nice, but there was little else beyond that. It just doesn't make sense.

I was hoping for some more conversation with her after I finished the game.
But sadly she just said the same thing about that Shadow Broker to me.:unsure:


There was no dialogue whatsoever after the suicide  mission. I was like "what the shii----" just like joker.

Yes, I was quite upset.
After I finished the mission I flew straight to Illuim.:(

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justinnstuff wrote...

Goodwood wrote...
I'm a guy whose FemSheps all love Liara (it's not just the sex, mind -- I'm not a complete pig over hereB)), and I agree with everything that you and Stubbs wrote. The only question I have is...how certain are you that a Liara-based expansion is coming for ME2?


Sitting on the PC is a file that says "liara_dlc_something". We know there are high hopes for a Liara based DLC in the future. A full expansion? I think that's people thinking the Shadow Broker plot is going to be really really big.

I am just going to put a reason for a full Liara Expansion out there.
Well, one of my reasons for it being a full expansion would be because of the actual ME2 storyline. They have to continue it before ME3 or else it will make the ME3 storyline harder to write, as the Collectors being destroyed doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things.

Now, because of the comic book series and how Liara stole Shepard's body, we know the SB is involved in some type of "war" with Liara. The SB has all of the advantages you could imagine, but why doesn't he act?
The SB might even know about the truth about the Collectors and the Reapers, if he knows this, why does he think it would be in his best interest to aid in the destruction of organic life? It could be argued that because he didn't seem to know in the comic book, and he doesn't know now. But, the SB has been around longer then people can imagine, how could he not have some sort of idea? He hasn't survived this long not asking questions and forcing answers.

Is the SB a Reaper himself? It could be possible, only an A.I could analyze and remember all the information in an entire galaxy. He could even be an ancient remnant of a long forgotten civilization.
The SB obviously knows Shepard is alive, if Anderson could figure it out, then the SB obviously should know.
Why is the SB even care about Liara? Maybe to get to Shepard? If he still wants Shepard, he could be in cahoots with the Reapers. Why else would he still want to capture him/her?
There would still be a reason to explain why the Reapers want Shepard captured, to exact revenge? Or something else?
The SB should know it wasn't even Liara who screwed his plans up, it was Cerberus. It would be pretty easy for him to figure out it was the one organization with the technology to revive someone.

A Liara Expansion could actually be a full expansion if BioWare wanted to get ready for ME3, the SB seems to be involved in something that is bad, even for his standards. Liara is against him, and the SB seems to be playing with her like a pawn. The SB and Cerberus should have some bad-blood with each other after TIM stole Shepard.
I would think the Alliance is involved, Ashley/Kaidan said that the Alliance thought it was Cerberus destroying the colonies. That would probably be investigating Cerberus and stumble across some information concerning all of the events I have just talked about, that would give a reason for Ashley/Kaidan to be in the Expansion, they would be the one or the head of a team sent to investigate everything that has happened.
Even the fact that Liara couldn't seem to talk to Shepard, is there another organization involved against Cerberus and the SB?
In summary, the storyline would consist of Cerberus, Shepard, Liara, The Alliance, The SB, and another unknown organization.

The entire Liara situation could very well be turned into or already been thought of as a deep, fufilling , emotional storyline instead of just rescuing Feron.
I would think that if BioWare wanted to go all out with it as a Expansion, to set the story before ME3, they could turn it into an amazing 15+ hour adventure set after the storyline of ME2. They could probably make it better then the actual ME2 storyline. (best part of it would be the emotional, romantic conversations with Liara, and her staying on the Normandy with Shepard afterward, lol).
I imagine BioWare would want to play off of all of these unanswered questions.
I swear, I will write the entire thing for BioWare if they want, lol.

Hell, Rockstar managed to make The Ballad of Gay Tony about the diamond subplot of GTA IV.

Modifié par General Stubbs, 10 mars 2010 - 03:43 .


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When you put it like that General, that sounds viable. I hope you're right!

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Hello Liara fans! *waves*

Just dropping by to return a friendly bump from justinnstuff.

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drunken pyromaniac wrote...

Hello Liara fans! *waves*
Just dropping by to return a friendly bump from justinnstuff.


Thanks =]

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General Stubbs strikes again.

To add to that, a Paragon Shepard could tell the Alliance team under Ash/Kaiden that she's flat-out given TIM the finger, and provide them with full access to the wealth of Cerberus data aboard the Normandy. She could even provide them with a means to go through the Omega 4 relay themselves to do an independent assessment of the remains of the Collector base and the area around it.

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As always... thinking and hoping about my Liara. I have begun to continue my story, just waiting on the comics to come so I get some more informatin.

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Also, I'd like to know who the kriff Wilson was working for.



Was he working for the SB?

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Goodwood wrote...

Also, I'd like to know who the kriff Wilson was working for.

Was he working for the SB?

kriff wilson?
You mean the guy that tries to kill you and Miranda shoots?

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Wilson was the guy who woke you "too soon", but was probably trying to kill you. He gets shot by Miranda, yes.

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vigna wrote...

justinnstuff wrote...

vigna wrote...
Aaah, OK. looks great. Love how you got her blue eyes.....

So we were both wrong?


Yup. I'm afraid we both fail :(

Anywho, now that I've finally finished that sig I'm going to start working on that pic you wanted. I got the cloud shot and I know which Liara image I need to use. :happy:


awesome....!!!:wizard:


I finally got inspiration for a pic to draw....i'm going to put Liara in Lighntning's uniform.....

Looking forward to seeing that!  I love Lightning's uniform, but I also really liek her long pink hair.  Too bad Liara doesn't have any hair, lol!

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Sakhalin wrote...

vigna wrote...

justinnstuff wrote...

vigna wrote...
Aaah, OK. looks great. Love how you got her blue eyes.....

So we were both wrong?


Yup. I'm afraid we both fail :(

Anywho, now that I've finally finished that sig I'm going to start working on that pic you wanted. I got the cloud shot and I know which Liara image I need to use. :happy:


awesome....!!!:wizard:


I finally got inspiration for a pic to draw....i'm going to put Liara in Lighntning's uniform.....

Looking forward to seeing that!  I love Lightning's uniform, but I also really liek her long pink hair.  Too bad Liara doesn't have any hair, lol!


Just make her blue, close enough. :lol:

www.square-enix.co.jp/fabula/ff13/wp/li_1920_1200.jpg

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Goodwood wrote...

Also, I'd like to know who the kriff Wilson was working for.

Was he working for the SB?


Maybe even the Collectors? 

I'd think the SB gave up looking for Shepard after the deal w/ the Collectors fell through (I'm assuming it did fall through.)

Will we ever know who Wilson was working for I wonder?  Will it be 'foreshadowed' something during the 4th issue of Redemption?

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Somebody1003 wrote...

Goodwood wrote...

Also, I'd like to know who the kriff Wilson was working for.

Was he working for the SB?

kriff wilson?
You mean the guy that tries to kill you and Miranda shoots?


Sorry, I'm a Star Wars geek, so those kinds of GFFA swear words can creep into my vocabulary, "kriff" being one of them (it's roughly analagous to the F-word).

But yeah, I kinda think that Wilson was working for the SB, particularly since he was grumbling about not getting paid enough by Cerberus..

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I look at this picture and find it quite impossible to cheat on Liara in any way. I did it once to get the achievement, but now it is Impossible to do for me.

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jlb524 wrote...

Goodwood wrote...

Also, I'd like to know who the kriff Wilson was working for.

Was he working for the SB?


Maybe even the Collectors? 

I'd think the SB gave up looking for Shepard after the deal w/ the Collectors fell through (I'm assuming it did fall through.)

Will we ever know who Wilson was working for I wonder?  Will it be 'foreshadowed' something during the 4th issue of Redemption?

The Collectors (actually Harbinger since the Collectors are puppets) wouldn't be very forgiving of the Shadow Broker screwing up the transfer of the body two years ago.  When you go to Purgatory to get Jack and are betrayed by the Warden, he says that Shepard is worth a king's ransom so that supports that at least someone out there has a huge bounty on Shepard.  The Shadow Broker would seem like the logical middleman for something like that, especially if he was trying to appease the Collectors for screwing up the transfer two years ago.

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Indeed, that is eminently possible.



Funny thing about that; first time playing I saw the warden's betrayal coming a mile away due to his being a "bareface". It pays to pay attention to the Codex... ;)