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But in the midle of the game Shepard would find a way to stop the change.And that tech would make Shepard live as long as Liara, live all her life with Shepard would be worth a litle more of anguish IMO.

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Master Wolf wrote...

I would like that Shepard have been implanted with reaper tech and that tech have a role to play in defeating the reapers but at the same time is transforming Shepard in a small version of a reaper something like the husk spike. Poor Liara would feel terrible but in the end everything would end well.


Yes, a good writer could do a lot with that. But a (possible) happy end is a must in any case.

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I want the best possible happy ending for my Shepard and Liara. Sweetness, fluffiness and plenty of romance. That'd be fine to me.

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

I want the best possible happy ending for my Shepard and Liara. Sweetness, fluffiness and plenty of romance. That'd be fine to me.


Yes, Shepard and Liara riding together, off into the sunset, on a tandem bicycle :lol:

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

I want the best possible happy ending for my Shepard and Liara. Sweetness, fluffiness and plenty of romance. That'd be fine to me.


I want that too. And for me the best possible ending for Liara and Shepard romance is with Shepard living as long as Liara that way they can spent all their lives thogether.

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Master Wolf wrote...

But in the midle of the game Shepard would find a way to stop the change.And that tech would make Shepard live as long as Liara, live all her life with Shepard would be worth a litle more of anguish IMO.


I don't really like the idea of Shepard living as long as Liara. I't would take away some of the drama of the relationship.

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Lizardviking wrote...

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But in the midle of the game Shepard would find a way to stop the change.And that tech would make Shepard live as long as Liara, live all her life with Shepard would be worth a litle more of anguish IMO.


I don't really like the idea of Shepard living as long as Liara. I't would take away some of the drama of the relationship.


That will be replaced by the drama added by Shepard becaming part reaper by something that was donne to him in the Lazarus project and the guilt that Liara would feel for that and the drama that their relationship would have during the time before Shepard is able to stop the transformation.

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Nah. Shepard shouldn't live as long as Liara. It removes the tragic romantic aspect of a non-Asari loving an Asari. See Kane Lam's "The Distance Between Two Stars" for evidence of just how powerful the tragic romantic aspect can be.

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Master Wolf wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

Master Wolf wrote...

But in the midle of the game Shepard would find a way to stop the change.And that tech would make Shepard live as long as Liara, live all her life with Shepard would be worth a litle more of anguish IMO.


I don't really like the idea of Shepard living as long as Liara. I't would take away some of the drama of the relationship.


That will be replaced by the drama added by Shepard becaming part reaper by something that was donne to him in the Lazarus project and the guilt that Liara would feel.


So Shepard will become a beacon of indoctrination or something like that? Which would make it impossible for Shepard to ever "embrace eternity" with Liara because if she did, her mind would be overpowered by the indoctrination signals by having a direct link with Shepard.

But that would ruin any chance for Liara and Shepard to have a relationship! :crying:

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yorkj86 wrote...

Nah. Shepard shouldn't live as long as Liara. It removes the tragic romantic aspect of a non-Asari loving an Asari. See Kane Lam's "The Distance Between Two Stars" for evidence of just how powerful the tragic romantic aspect can be.


And imagine how tragic and romatic would be Liara and Shepard relationship during the period that Shepard would being transformed in a reaper.

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yorkj86 wrote...

Nah. Shepard shouldn't live as long as Liara. It removes the tragic romantic aspect of a non-Asari loving an Asari. See Kane Lam's "The Distance Between Two Stars" for evidence of just how powerful the tragic romantic aspect can be.


That story made me cry, for real!

I prefer the 'Shepard dies early' thing too.

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Lizardviking wrote...

Master Wolf wrote...

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Master Wolf wrote...

But in the midle of the game Shepard would find a way to stop the change.And that tech would make Shepard live as long as Liara, live all her life with Shepard would be worth a litle more of anguish IMO.


I don't really like the idea of Shepard living as long as Liara. I't would take away some of the drama of the relationship.


That will be replaced by the drama added by Shepard becaming part reaper by something that was donne to him in the Lazarus project and the guilt that Liara would feel.


So Shepard will become a beacon of indoctrination or something like that? Which would make it impossible for Shepard to ever "embrace eternity" with Liara because if she did, her mind would be overpowered by the indoctrination signals by having a direct link with Shepard.

But that would ruin any chance for Liara and Shepard to have a relationship! :crying:


Part reaper not a complete reaper Shepard would retain some organic parts that would be sustained by the reaper tech incresing his life, but this organic  parts would still give Shepard  the ability to embrace eternety with Liara.

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Are we speaking wishfully, or practically? Not everyone's romanced Liara.

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yorkj86 wrote...

Are we speaking wishfully, or practically? Not everyone's romanced Liara.


No other romance has the drama that Liara and Shepard has IMO so Shepard living more that the others LI would be part of the drama of those romances.

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yorkj86 wrote...

Are we speaking wishfully, or practically? Not everyone's romanced Liara.


Really? How could anyone not do it? :huh:

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Master Wolf wrote...

yorkj86 wrote...

Are we speaking wishfully, or practically? Not everyone's romanced Liara.


No other romance has the drama that Liara and Shepard has IMO so Shepard living more that the others LI would be part of the drama of those romances.


Sorry to say, but there's a reason Liara seems so detached from Shepard romantically in the Redemption comics.  It's romance-neutral.  As I said, not everyone romanced Liara.

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I can already see it Liara dying of old age Shepard would be part reaper but reapers live for milions of years so by the time Liara was dying of old age Shepard would still have some thousands of years to live but he would chose to shut the tech inside him to die with Liara.Image IPB

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No, that's why I don't see them extending Shepard's life just in the Liara romance. Some who did not romance her will be upset 'cause their totally cool bada** Shepard doesn't get to live to be 1000 years old.

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jlb524 wrote...

Yes, Shepard and Liara riding together, off into the sunset, on a tandem bicycle :lol:


You know it!

I'm never going to live that down, am I? :P

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jlb524 wrote...

No, that's why I don't see them extending Shepard's life just in the Liara romance. Some who did not romance her will be upset 'cause their totally cool bada** Shepard doesn't get to live to be 1000 years old.


I think Master Wolf said it would happen for all Shepards.

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jlb524 wrote...

No, that's why I don't see them extending Shepard's life just in the Liara romance. Some who did not romance her will be upset 'cause their totally cool bada** Shepard doesn't get to live to be 1000 years old.


All Shepards would live 1000 years  even if they didin't romanced Liara old like I said that would be the drama of the others romances.

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Master Wolf wrote...

yorkj86 wrote...

Are we speaking wishfully, or practically? Not everyone's romanced Liara.


No other romance has the drama that Liara and Shepard has IMO so Shepard living more that the others LI would be part of the drama of those romances.

But Shepard will most likely already outlive the other LIs because of all the "upgrades" Cerberus did. I would guestimate that Shepard will probably get 2-2.5 times that of the normal human, and possibly a bit longer with future tech...

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Yeah, then those that romanced any other will complain because now their romance is tragic, as their Shepards don't get to grow old together with Ash/Kaidan/Tali/Thane/Miranda/Jack/Jacob/Garrus and will outlive them by 800 years.

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So this is wish-fulfillment, more than it is a development of Shepard's story?

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You know what the best solution to this whole dilemma is? Leave the whole issue regarding Shepard's lifespan ambiguous. Give subtle hints that she may or may not have an extended life expectancy. That way, players can choose to interpret it as they wish. Do you want your Shepard to live to 1000 and die in Liara's arms? You'll be able to. Do you desire to have Shepard die at age 150, just like an other human? That's possible too.



Leave it vague and ambiguous, and let each individual player decide.