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[Baronesa]

I love Liara!!!


I'm Baronesa and i support this initiative!!!

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Metal-Dragon-Kiryu wrote...

Darth Cheesecake wrote...

Here's another thing I've noticed.
A lot of people want most of the LI's to go both ways.
But it doesn't make sense for the majority of them.
Jack-I could see happening.
Garrus-Not a chance.
Tali-maybe.
Samara-Fits.
Liara-Technically fits.

I think people just want all LIs to be available to all Shepards. I can see where they're coming from - some people prefer to always play as a specific gender, but want to experience certain romances.

The easiest way would be to have them only show interest in a Shepard of the same gender if said Shepard made the first move. That way, they could simply say that the characters are straight, and only go the other way if the player wants them to.

I know people say that would hurt the integrity of the characters, but as has been pointed out - if they didn't want to access the content, they don't have to.

It's already been stated that at least some of the ME2 LIs were meant to be available to both genders. In fact, judging by the dialogue people have found - all of them were.

I have to disagree with you there MDK. It would hurt how the characters are if everyone could go gay for Shepard. Don't get me wrong. I have abseloutly no problem with there being same sex romances. It's just that things would get real stupid if everyone was able for everyone.

"EDIT" Also noticed you also said that same sex romances were vetoed by people higher on the food chain. If this is true then there's a chance that we won't be  able to conclude the Liara romance in a satisfying way. Due to Bioware not wishing to have a F/F romance in their game.

Modifié par Lizardviking, 07 juillet 2010 - 01:50 .

[ratzerman]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Oh, and I have just been playing ME2, and whilst on Omega Miranda said something to this effect:

"Omega. What a pisshole. I've been here on business before."

Hmmmm. Now I wonder what she could be referring to, or whom she might have met whilst on this "business"?

Well.... she can't be referring to Liara, since TIM evidently brainwashed the two of them into forgetting they ever knew eachother.

[jtav]

To be fair, Garrus and Tali don't acknowledge Liara either. But it's still an incredible disappointment.



The news that same-sex romance was vetoed leads me to worry that Liara will, in fact, not be interested in renewing a relationship with a Shep of either gender.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

jtav wrote...
The news that same-sex romance was vetoed leads me to worry that Liara will, in fact, not be interested in renewing a relationship with a Shep of either gender.

Yep. There's still a chance that we all end up getting screwed over by a bunch of guys in fancy suits. If the Vimire suvivor can be romanced in the ME3, but Liara can not. Then it's a clear sign that the reason is because Bioware no longer support Same sex romances.

[jtav]

deleted. LET has a point.

Modifié par jtav, 07 juillet 2010 - 02:24 .

[jlb524]

Metal-Dragon-Kiryu wrote...

rynluna wrote...

So do you think this piece will be finished today, MDK? I am so looking forward to it.

It should be. The background may take a bit of time, but considering I already have both Shepard and Liara finished, and it's looking so good - I'm really motivated to get it done.

Sweet!!

I can't wait to see this one!!  Liara is looking gorgeous.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

jtav wrote...

To be fair, Garrus and Tali don't acknowledge Liara either. But it's still an incredible disappointment.

The news that same-sex romance was vetoed leads me to worry that Liara will, in fact, not be interested in renewing a relationship with a Shep of either gender.

Also, ME2 also featured the Kelly romance, available to both gender Shepards. You also had the pseudo-romance with Samara, and Shiala flirts with both gender Shepards, something which is not the case with Gianna. It seems like BW have no problem with asari/female human pairings to me.

But none of those romances (Execpt Liara's which is completly avoided in ME2) are real romances so to speak. They don't lead to anything (Kelly doesn't have a sex scene AFAIK). An possible explaination is that all those things (Samara, Kelly and Shiala) were people in Bioware trying their best to sneak in F/F romances without there being actuel romances.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Of course, they could scrap FemShep/Liara, and have DudeShep/Liara continue on as normal. But I don't think BW would ever do something so homophobic and discriminatory.

They wouldn't do that, because it would lead to a massive PR nightmare. But they could easily just make you unable to continue the romance by some bull**** excuse like Liara is EVUUUL!

[jlb524]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

On a related note, whilst talking to Aria she says something like "Information is power", very apt considering Liara's occupation in ME2!

I thought of Liara when she said that

[bjdbwea]

Metal-Dragon-Kiryu wrote...

A while ago on the Mass Effect livejournal community we were contacted by someone who had worked on the game - who shall of course remain anonymous - they said that the writers were very keen to have the same-sex romances kept in the game, but they were vetoed by someone high-up in the ME2 production team.

I don't give much for rumors, and I certainly don't believe them just because I think they're true, but this does fit with what I suspect after playing the game and reading some official statements on the matter. I also have the theory that they want to sweep the Liara romance under the rug for this reason. If you think about it, the Ash/Kaidan romance is openly acknowledged by the game several times. The Liara romance never, it's never spoken out, there are just two small signs that it even exists.

I think they would have no problem with the Liara romance if it were strictly for male Shepards. Can't do that anymore now though, it would be too obvious and create a lot of unwanted debate, even beyond the forums. So instead they make up reasons why the romance is off for everyone, or they give only the slightest of hints for its existance. At least that is what I currently suspect, and unfortunately I currently see no signs that BioWare/EA would change their ways, but I hope that ME 3 will prove me wrong.

Modifié par bjdbwea, 07 juillet 2010 - 02:36 .

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

But none of those romances (Execpt Liara's which is completly avoided in ME2) are real romances so to speak. They don't lead to anything (Kelly doesn't have a sex scene AFAIK). An possible explaination is that all those things (Samara, Kelly and Shiala) were people in Bioware trying their best to sneak in F/F romances without there being actuel romances.

Are the DudeShep variations of these "romances" anymore extensive or deeper, though?

The reason they are not deeper for maleshep is because A: It would ****** off fans and B: Could potentially lead to a massive PR nightmare due to the fact that Bioware would allow Maleshep to continue all the romances but not Femshep. There by pissing on a minor demographic.

Modifié par Lizardviking, 07 juillet 2010 - 02:39 .

[jlb524]

The CHudster was once asked in an interview if there will be s/s romances in ME2, and he did say that players who began the FemShep/Liara romance in ME1 will be able to continue that one in ME3.



His definitions of concepts like 'romance continuation' are suspect, though.