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That would be awful, and BW compromising their prior beliefs and principals to satiate the intolerant and homophobic.



I hope they give the Liara romance it's proper due.

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Liara instead of tell Shepard the story of how he was rescued Liara could meld with Shepard to show him everything that would have been much beter. And it would compensate the half kiss.

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I'm still on the hope that they will give the ME1 love interest players "the reward" for staying faithful.

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rynluna wrote...

I'm still on the hope that they will give the ME1 love interest players "the reward" for staying faithful.


Maybe Ashley and Kaidan will also hand Shepard 1000 credits for remaining faithful.

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Watching that kiss gif, I am reminded again that the Liara ME2 kiss is pathetically short....at first, I wondered if I had cut some of it out to make the gif, but no...that's all of it!!

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I'm hoping for a special reward for staying faithful to Liara across the trilogy too. A unique scene or epilogue to the romance, perhaps?

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Well I tried to spread some positivity in here but I failed. :-/

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

I'm hoping for a special reward for staying faithful to Liara across the trilogy too. A unique scene or epilogue to the romance, perhaps?


I'm really curious to see what the reward for remainig faithful to Liara will be having a unique sceane or epilogue to the romance would be good but I hope that we will get this and more.

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rynluna wrote...

Well I tried to spread some positivity in here but I failed. :-/


No, you didn't fail!  I'll be positive!  Promise!!

Happy Liara time!

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I was positive about the Liara DLC and her future once. I was a hive of optimism and happy thinking. Then you guys got your claws into me. Now I'm nuthin'!



(I still have high hopes about romance content in the Liara DLC, however!)

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You turned ne into a cynic! Well, either you guys or my last game of ME2.

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jlb524 wrote...

In ME2, we don't even see lip contact...how do we even know there was a kiss? Perhaps Liara just nudged Shepard's face with her nose or something?


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@bjdbwea



I still think Liara stops a hair right before Shepard's lips! Oh my!!!!!!!!!!

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I'm sorry all!!!!!!!



I will try to be more optimistic, less cynical, etc.

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We can only speculate at this point, but I wonder how Miranda feels when she accompanies Shepard to Illium, and sees how Liara has changed and the manner in which she's suffering? How much pain and sorrow Liara has endured, mostly due to the actions of the organisation that she is fiercely loyal to?



Likewise, how does Liara feel when Miranda turns up at Shepard's side? The woman that Liara entrusted her friend/lover to, in order for her to ressurrect. Does Liara feel shameful in some respects when face to face with Miranda again, when Shepard is also present?

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Well this is my final goodbye all.

I've begun my endgame and my time on this site is over.

Keep the love going.

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

We can only speculate at this point, but I wonder how Miranda feels when she accompanies Shepard to Illium, and sees how Liara has changed and the manner in which she's suffering? How much pain and sorrow Liara has endured, mostly due to the actions of the organisation that she is fiercely loyal to?

Likewise, how does Liara feel when Miranda turns up at Shepard's side? The woman that Liara entrusted her friend/lover to, in order for her to ressurrect. Does Liara feel shameful in some respects when face to face with Miranda again, when Shepard is also present?


I think that Miranda don't feel nothing like I said they are not friends and at that point Miaranda trust cerberus and their goals so for her cerberus has donne nothing wrong or at least what they have donne is justified.  I like to think that when Miaranda asks Shepard to prmise to don't die she does this because she don't want to suffer as Liara as suffered when Shepard died.

How Liara feels when Shepard is there with Miaranda I think that for a male Shepard Liara may be concerned after all Miaranda is a very strong and beatiful woman perhaps she  fears that Shepard may fall in love with her and move on, altough I belive that Liara deep down knows that Shepard will not do that.

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

We can only speculate at this point, but I wonder how Miranda feels when she accompanies Shepard to Illium, and sees how Liara has changed and the manner in which she's suffering? How much pain and sorrow Liara has endured, mostly due to the actions of the organisation that she is fiercely loyal to?


I don't know....I have a feeling Miranda knew more about Liara's current situation than she let on to Shepard (she told Shepard nothing, actually).

Miranda probably wouldn't blame Cerberus for Liara's situation (I don't think Cerberus is to blame, really...this is all Liara's doing and choosing).

Likewise, how does Liara feel when Miranda turns up at Shepard's side? The woman that Liara entrusted her friend/lover to, in order for her to ressurrect. Does Liara feel shameful in some respects when face to face with Miranda again, when Shepard is also present?


Maybe a little...Miranda's presence would be a harsh reminder of what all happened during the course of the Redemption comic book.  She would be thinking about the 'meat and tubes' Shepard she had seen long ago, while simultaneously staring at the very much alive present day Shepard.

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I don't think Miranda blames Cerberus for Liara, though I think she might worry for her. Information gathering is Miranda's game, not Liara's. I think she might envy Shep because of Liara. Think about it. Her father abused her, and her best friend sold her out. She doesn't really have anyone on whom she can rely. But Liara was willing to do extraordinary things to recover Shepard's [i}body.[/i] I can see her being very mentally derisive of a cheating Shep. She'd kill for that level of devotion, and he's throwing it away. And if she's falling for Shep, we've got a very painful love triangle on our hands.

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jlb524 wrote...

I don't know....I have a feeling Miranda knew more about Liara's current situation than she let on to Shepard (she told Shepard nothing, actually).

Miranda probably wouldn't blame Cerberus for Liara's situation (I don't think Cerberus is to blame, really...this is all Liara's doing and choosing).


What I had in mind is that Cerberus is indirectly the cause of Liara's current strife and predicament. TIM manipulating her and exploiting her devotion to Shepard in order to use Liara like a tool or an asset is what has ultimately caused Liara to suffer in this manner. I think Miranda is aware of this, as she was the one who attempted to comfort and reassure Liara over Cerberus handling the corpse when Liara handed it over to her. If Miranda then sees Liara two years later, and witnesses the extent of Liara's torment and pain she's had to endure for those two years, then something has to resonate within her.

Maybe a little...Miranda's presence would be a harsh reminder of what all happened during the course of the Redemption comic book.  She would be thinking about the 'meat and tubes' Shepard she had seen long ago, while simultaneously staring at the very much alive present day Shepard.


Exactly, and it creates conflict in this manner. Until we're told otherwise, the last time Miranda and Liara met Cerberus scientists were begin to work on the mutilated and degarded corpse of her friend/lover. It's a stark reminder of that moment, and the start of Liara's guilt and grief. She'd feel uncomfortable, very uncomfortable.

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Hello Liara thread.

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

What I had in mind is that Cerberus is indirectly the cause of Liara's current strife and predicament. TIM manipulating her and exploiting her devotion to Shepard in order to use Liara like a tool or an asset is what has ultimately caused Liara to suffer in this manner. I think Miranda is aware of this, as she was the one who attempted to comfort and reassure Liara over Cerberus handling the corpse when Liara handed it over to her. If Miranda then sees Liara two years later, and witnesses the extent of Liara's torment and pain she's had to endure for those two years, then something has to resonate within her.


What is cousing Liara to suffer is not she being manipulated by TIM (wich I think she wasn't) what is causing Liara to suffer was her desicon she acepeted to recover the body for cerberus she acepted to hand the body TIM didin't have to manipulate her Liara chose to do that because she couldn't lose Shepard and this is what is causing Liara to suffer because she in her opinion have acted in a selfish way. Liara is suffering for her decision and for nothing else.

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I don't think Miranda blames Cerberus for Liara, though I think she might worry for her. Information gathering is Miranda's game, not Liara's. I think she might envy Shep because of Liara. Think about it. Her father abused her, and her best friend sold her out. She doesn't really have anyone on whom she can rely. But Liara was willing to do extraordinary things to recover Shepard's [i}body.[/i] I can see her being very mentally derisive of a cheating Shep. She'd kill for that level of devotion, and he's throwing it away. And if she's falling for Shep, we've got a very painful love triangle on our hands.


Very true, and this is something that I have been thinking about lately. Many people say that a confrontation between Liara and Tali would be the most emotionally charged, but I disagree. Liara and Miranda tangled in a love triangle with Shepard would be the most painful and dramatic, IMO. There has been far greater emotional interaction between Liara and Miranda, and the dynamics of the love triangle would reflect that. There would be alot more guilt and despair on a far deeper level.

Meh, doesn't matter to me. There's only Liara for me!