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[jlb524]

NICKjnp wrote...

I want to take Liara on a spcare cruise on the Love Boat.

That's awesome!

[jlb524]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Regarding DLC not affecting the plot, would that not be possible with a substantial expansion pack, though?

I don't know...DA:  Awakenings was a substantial expansion and it ignored a lot of what happened in the original campaign.

That's Dragon Age, though.  There's really no precedent for ME, like I said.

[Dinkamus_Littlelog]

In regards to the DLC, although it would be an expansion, they are still limited. If they get these VAs back to do some work, they dont want to waste too much time and resources recording lots of dialouge only a segment of the fanbase will see.

I think the best we can hope for before ME3 is a repeat of ME2, but better executed. A supporting role, with a small amount of nods to the romance in some slight changes, but nothing substantial.

Like its been said, even in the main games themselves you have to remember romances are always OPTIONAL. Yeah, they are still massively important and effective, like doing lots of side missions, but the default is always there in that its open to never be experienced.

Thats my hope for any expansion: how the ME1 LI cameos should have been in ME2 itself, and in a supporting role that leaves them open to rejoin the squad in ME3.

Modifié par Dinkamus_Littlelog, 07 juillet 2010 - 07:31 .

[jlb524]

rynluna wrote...

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...
Tandem bikes.....damn you, ryn!!!!!

Okay, I'm LOL'ing now.

If the Liara DLC consisted purely of riding around on a tandem bike with her, I'd still buy it!

You can shoot at Shadow Broker goons as you ride, of course...we need to add some shooting somewhere.

[Master Wolf]

One thing that also can make the exitence of a Liara DLC with substancial romantic content is the fact that the possibility of cheating would also have to be included in the DLC and the consequences for cheating or remain faithfull aparently are being seved for ME3.

[jlb524]

@Les

I would be quite upset too, actually. I'd prefer dark-side Liara to that.

Modifié par jlb524, 07 juillet 2010 - 07:40 .

[Master Wolf]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

BioWare going down the AriBastila route with Liara would irritate and anger me greatly. Just saying.

I sincerely hope that they don't do this! I think it's unlikely though, if my analysis is correct.

Have you noticed how similar Bastila and Revan romance and Shepard and Liara romance are? What is givin me hope is that I hope that Liara dark side fase was in ME2 with her more cold personality.

[jlb524]

Master Wolf wrote...

Have you noticed how similar Bastila and Revan romance and Shepard and Liara romance are? What is givin me hope is that I hope that Liara dark side fase was in ME2 with her more cold personality.

Oh, I hope not..I didn't like the Revan/Bastila romance.

I don't notice any similarities, yet...I hope they don't become similar and do that Bastila crap with her, though.

[Master Wolf]

jlb524 wrote...

Oh, I hope not..I didn't like the Revan/Bastila romance.

I don't notice any similarities, yet...I hope they don't become similar and do that Bastila crap with her, though.

Revan and Bastile first met when Revan saved Bastila the same thing with Shepard and Liara at some point Bastila save Revan and do something that Revan would not apreciate hide his true identity, Liara also saves Shepard and do something that Shepard would not apreciate hand his body for cerberus. Even the presence of a aparent distant mother are comon to both. IMO all the more important point of Revan and Bastila romance are also present in Shepard and Liara romance the only thing remaining is Shepard svaing Liara from the dark side...in other words Shepard convincing Liara to leave her more cold personality of ME2.

Modifié par Master Wolf, 07 juillet 2010 - 08:02 .

[Dinkamus_Littlelog]

Hopefully, just as with the constant "can you join the team again" questioning, the fact that you can flat out say to Liara "dont go down the dark path, that only leads to unfulfillment and crappy writing", then shell stay away.



After all, why give the player the option to highlight not turning into a poorly written cliche only to have her do it?

[Nerevar-as]

Bastila and Liara have very little in common where personalities are concerned. I knew Bastilla would fall after the first talk with her, she was Leia as a Jedi. Liara was nothing like that. Even after the 2 rough years before ME2 her "darkness" was not that kind. I can see leaving to Shepard the final step of hardening her ala DA:O or preventing it, but not a going evil turn.

[jlb524]

Dinkamus_Littlelog wrote...

Hopefully, just as with the constant "can you join the team again" questioning, the fact that you can flat out say to Liara "dont go down the dark path, that only leads to unfulfillment and crappy writing", then shell stay away.

After all, why give the player the option to highlight not turning into a poorly written cliche only to have her do it?

You could also say they are foreshadowing it.

[jtav]

I don't see the Liara-Bastila similarity, either.

[jlb524]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Nah, that dialogue option exists because they wanted to have Liara emphasise that she will not succumb to something like that. It's highlighted and then dismissed in that fashion in order to put the player's mind at ease.

I don't know...she could just do it anyway, so the player can be like, 'Oh, that bad Liara!  I told her not to do this and she told me she wouldn't, but then she did it anyway!  What a biatch!'

[Dinkamus_Littlelog]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

You could also say they are foreshadowing it.

Nah, that dialogue option exists because they wanted to have Liara emphasise that she will not succumb to something like that. It's highlighted and then dismissed in that fashion in order to put the player's mind at ease.

Yeah, basically its the completely blunt and transparent nature of the dialogue that suggests its not a foreshadow.

I think if they were highlighting a potential plotline in ME3, they would have been more subtle about it.

Its one reason (among many) why Im completely unwilling to accept a "new shadow broker" support role. Putting aside how illogical and OOC Liaras crusade against the SB is, she should be completely put off by the idea of assuming its position.

That and the fact that its not a squadmate role, and by virtue of that alone, inferior to what she actually deserves.