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General Stubbs wrote...

I guess it could be anyone else in the galaxy though, but no matter what, I want Shepard to be there for Liara when she meets her "Father".


I do as well.  I just hope we don't have to kill this asari, whoever she is.

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jlb524 wrote...

General Stubbs wrote...

I guess it could be anyone else in the galaxy though, but no matter what, I want Shepard to be there for Liara when she meets her "Father".


I do as well.  I just hope we don't have to kill this asari, whoever she is.


I hope not! Killing both of our beloved's parents.Uncool:(

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jlb524 wrote...

General Stubbs wrote...

I guess it could be anyone else in the galaxy though, but no matter what, I want Shepard to be there for Liara when she meets her "Father".


I do as well.  I just hope we don't have to kill this asari, whoever she is.


Now that would be bad, both her parents dead by her and Sheps hand. I vote for a happy reunion if there is going to be one. The poor girl have had enough heartache in her life as it is.

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For some reason I don't care at all about Liara's father.

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Littledoom wrote...

Now that would be bad, both her parents dead by her and Sheps hand. I vote for a happy reunion if there is going to be one. The poor girl have had enough heartache in her life as it is.

I second this.  Our poor asari has already been through more than enough.  We need something good to happen to Liara for once, we need to comfort herPosted Image

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Littledoom wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

General Stubbs wrote...

I guess it could be anyone else in the galaxy though, but no matter what, I want Shepard to be there for Liara when she meets her "Father".


I do as well.  I just hope we don't have to kill this asari, whoever she is.


Now that would be bad, both her parents dead by her and Sheps hand. I vote for a happy reunion if there is going to be one. The poor girl have had enough heartache in her life as it is.

I don't think we would have to kill her father, but doing that would make me extremely sad.
It would be terrible to put Liara through that again. Especially after she has been through hell for Shepard.

Yeah, a happy reunion would be much better. Obviously it would still be a very emotional time for Liara. But as long as Shepard is there for her this time, seeing her "father" should turn into a good thing.

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Littledoom wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

General Stubbs wrote...

I guess it could be anyone else in the galaxy though, but no matter what, I want Shepard to be there for Liara when she meets her "Father".


I do as well.  I just hope we don't have to kill this asari, whoever she is.


Now that would be bad, both her parents dead by her and Sheps hand. I vote for a happy reunion if there is going to be one. The poor girl have had enough heartache in her life as it is.


Yeah if we meet her "father" I definitely don't want that to be a sour encounter. The shadow broker/me2 reunion was enough.

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The father reunion can't be all sunshine and bunnies though. Remember that Liara's father wanted nothing to do with her and Benezia after Liara's birth for some reason. There has to be some angst but I do hope it ends happily for both Liara and this other parent.

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jlb524 wrote...

The father reunion can't be all sunshine and bunnies though. Remember that Liara's father wanted nothing to do with her and Benezia after Liara's birth for some reason. There has to be some angst but I do hope it ends happily for both Liara and this other parent.


True, I just don't want it to end like it did with Benezia.

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jlb524 wrote...

The father reunion can't be all sunshine and bunnies though. Remember that Liara's father wanted nothing to do with her and Benezia after Liara's birth for some reason. There has to be some angst but I do hope it ends happily for both Liara and this other parent.


Or so did Benezia want Liara to believe, we don't know if thats true.

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I doubt we will see it unless the SB thing is dealt with properly in an expansion. Just too many things to add into a single game at this point.

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jlb524 wrote...

The father reunion can't be all sunshine and bunnies though. Remember that Liara's father wanted nothing to do with her and Benezia after Liara's birth for some reason. There has to be some angst but I do hope it ends happily for both Liara and this other parent.

Yeah, it makes everything more realistic when there are proper emotions for the proper situations.
Of course Liara should be upset, but I would assume there will probably be a whole story to it and reasons for everything that happened.
I definitely don't want Shepard to say, "I'll talk to you later Liara" again.

Even the actual reunion scene could have easily been successful if BW had put emotions (and actual dialogue for Shepard) into it.

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Honestly, I'd totally forgotten about Liara's father. They did just sort of up and leave, so it wouldn't surprise me if we don't run into them at all. Which is sad enough in it's own right.

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It was just backstory for Liara and to flesh out her situation with her mother. Not every part of someone's backstory has to catch up with them.

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General Stubbs wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

The father reunion can't be all sunshine and bunnies though. Remember that Liara's father wanted nothing to do with her and Benezia after Liara's birth for some reason. There has to be some angst but I do hope it ends happily for both Liara and this other parent.

Yeah, it makes everything more realistic when there are proper emotions for the proper situations.
Of course Liara should be upset, but I would assume there will probably be a whole story to it and reasons for everything that happened.
I definitely don't want Shepard to say, "I'll talk to you later Liara" again.

Even the actual reunion scene could have easily been successful if BW had put emotions (and actual dialogue for Shepard) into it.


Scene in ME3 where Liara meets her father:

Liara:  So, you're my dad.
Dad:  Good to see you again Liara.
Liara:  Good to see you to.
Dad:  Well, talk to you later Liara.
Liara: So long dad.

~ Fin

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We assume the Father left and it was not Benezia who turned the other Asari away? If we go by the wild hypothesis that the bartender on Illium is Liara's "father", then she mentions that the whole relationship did not work out...she is also very outspoken about the whole Benezia business being an embarassment for the Asari.

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It was just backstory for Liara and to flesh out her situation with her mother. Not every part of someone's backstory has to catch up with them.

It would make for an emotional time for Shepard and Liara though.

BioWare may go somewhere with it in ME3.

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General Stubbs wrote...

WilliamShatner wrote...

It was just backstory for Liara and to flesh out her situation with her mother. Not every part of someone's backstory has to catch up with them.

It would make for an emotional time for Shepard and Liara though.

BioWare may go somewhere with it in ME3.


Maybe, but I doubt we'll see that level of detail.  Unless its Liara's "loyalty" mission.  Posted Image

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WilliamShatner wrote...

It was just backstory for Liara and to flesh out her situation with her mother. Not every part of someone's backstory has to catch up with them.


I'm inclined to agree with Shatner and Yeled. The identity of Liara's father is a curiosity, but I can live without it being revealed.

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Yeled wrote...

General Stubbs wrote...

WilliamShatner wrote...

It was just backstory for Liara and to flesh out her situation with her mother. Not every part of someone's backstory has to catch up with them.

It would make for an emotional time for Shepard and Liara though.

BioWare may go somewhere with it in ME3.


Maybe, but I doubt we'll see that level of detail.  Unless its Liara's "loyalty" mission.  Posted Image

I wasn't thinking BioWare would make an entire massive plot out of it or anything, but it would be nice to have at least a ten or fifteen minute emotional conversation about it with Liara and her "father". Or several conversations spread out would probably be what would happen.

I hope we can do away with the loyalty missions in ME3. They took up way too much time that could have been spent writing the actual story.
Liara will already be on board the Normandy at the end of the Expansion (and stay in Shep's cabin). :wub:

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NO MORE LOYATLY MISSIONS!!!



AND NO MORE CREW SHOPPING LISTS!!!



I also think ME3, if the end of ME2 is any indication (although they did blow off ME1's ending so who knows), will be all out war so I doubt there will be much times for extended scenes of family bonding.

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I hope we can do away with the loyalty missions in ME3. They took up way too much time that could have been spent writing the actual story.


I'm with you on that one. It was a nice touch, but I wish it wasn't the entire game. If there are small (and I mean small) sidequests in the third one that help tie up some loose ends for your crew, I could deal with that. I just don't want it to take up the entire freakin' game.

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Liara will already be on board the Normandy at the end of the Expansion (and stay in Shep's cabin). :wub:


Sometimes I wonder how you manage to stay so positive.  Posted Image

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The loyalty missions were fine. The developers just shouldn't have allowed these side quests to take away from the main story. If they had been given the time that a game such as this needs, they could have done a proper story + the loyalty side quests. But with an insufficient time limit forced upon them, they should just have reduced the number of companions. It was completely unnecessary from the start to have so many companions. It didn't just take away from the main story, it also very obviously reduced the amount of depth and interaction that every companion got.

At times, this game feels as if it were BioWare's first try. Which still puzzles me. It can't all be explained with time constraints.

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The loyalty missions were fine. The developers just shouldn't have allowed these side quests to take away from the main story. If they had been given the time that a game such as this needs, they could have done a proper story + the loyalty side quests. But with an insufficient time limit forced upon them, they should just have reduced the number of companions. It was completely unnecessary from the start to have so many companions. It didn't just take away from the main story, it also very obviously reduced the amount of depth and interaction that every companion got.

At times, this game feels as if it were BioWare's first try. Which still puzzles me. It can't all be explained with time constraints.



I think the squad IS the main story, or recruiting them that is.  That is why I believe MOST of the squad will be available to fight with Shepard in ME 3 as it makes no sense to RECRUIT THE BEST IN THE GALAXY and then they all go retire or take extended vacation while the Reapers are coming.