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[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

IndigoWolfe wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

Hopefully the DLC will take place post suicide mission and will end in a way that makes it clear Liara will be back in the squad in ME3.

Thats all I want from this DLC!

Oh, I have a long list all thought out of the things I want from this DLC.

One of which being a mission that at one point, has Liara and Shepard --the former in an evening gown, the latter in Alliance dress uniform-- somewhere classy, waltzing to a nice piece. Perhaps Lorelei Rheinklänge, but I don't have a particular preference.

Ha! Wouldn't mind that.

But really. The most important thing in this DLC is how it ends and what sort of "message" it sends regarding what to expect in ME3.

[Master Wolf]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

She probably wouldn't want to continue on as an information broker, but Liara may feel that she can use any political clout she may possess to make sweeping changes to asari society, and use her power and influence to do good.

Do you think that Liara has that kind of power and influence? Because for what I have seen the asari society don't take any kind of change lightly. I wouldn't like to see Liara becaming a politic even if she is good one but this it's just my preference of course.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Oh, Liara's post ME trilogy role and occupation?

I'd love it if she were to become a leader amongst the asari, leading sweeping reforms and progressive alterations to their society for the better! Kinda funny, huh? Liara originally rejected and defied what was expected of her in terms of following in Benezia's footsteps, when ultimately she might do and accomplish alot of good in the process.

They do say that matriachs have plans that takes ages to come to fruit (or whatever it's called in english). Perhaps Benezia had planned that Liara would take a diffrent path, so she would gain and adopt a difrent viewpoint she later would use to guide others.

Completly impossible as it would demand Benezia had a time machine and and pretended that she was saddend when Liara took up archerelogicly.

[jlb524]

I kind of doubt Liara will go back to becoming a scientist, but I'm also not sure if she will continue on as an Info Broker.



Liara has definitely changed...as a scientist, she was very absorbed in her work and only her work, and she basically shut out the rest of the galaxy. The events with Saren and the Reapers have opened her eyes to the rest of the galaxy, and she has seen things out there that have shook her. It seems she has decided to take the initiative to fight against the 'bad guys', and I think she will continue on in this vein, information broker or not.



She will still retain a passion for her science, and for uncovering secrets, but her profession will no longer be that of a scientist. Or, that's my opinion.

[Master Wolf]

jlb524 wrote...

I kind of doubt Liara will go back to becoming a scientist, but I'm also not sure if she will continue on as an Info Broker.

Liara has definitely changed...as a scientist, she was very absorbed in her work and only her work, and she basically shut out the rest of the galaxy. The events with Saren and the Reapers have opened her eyes to the rest of the galaxy, and she has seen things out there that have shook her. It seems she has decided to take the initiative to fight against the 'bad guys', and I think she will continue on in this vein, information broker or not.

She will still retain a passion for her science, and for uncovering secrets, but her profession will no longer be that of a scientist. Or, that's my opinion.

She will became a Spectre

[pf17456]

I'd like to see Liara and Shepard move into Donovan Hock's house and just chill and make babies when it's all over

[Master Wolf]

One of the reasons why I would like that Liara returned to be a scientis it's because I still remember how she talked about her job as scientist how happy she was when talking about the job she loves that's why I want to see Liara back to her role as a scientist because I want to see Liara happy like she was in ME1 if she finds other job that make her as happy or more as her job as a scientist I would not not care as long as she is happy.

Modifié par Master Wolf, 29 juillet 2010 - 06:52 .

[Dinkamus_Littlelog]

Lizardviking wrote...

Ha! Wouldn't mind that.

But really. The most important thing in this DLC is how it ends and what sort of "message" it sends regarding what to expect in ME3.

Agreed. Id love this DLC if it technically fell into the "bridging the gap" DLC by way of basically confirming Liara for ME3 and freeing her up/setting in place her role in ME3 on the squad.

Of course, it could just do the opposite and spell out "cliched support role". Its going to be a nervy time founding out Id say.

[Barquiel]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

By the way, I hope that the trigger for this DLC is not that Cerberus emails the location of the Shadow Broker to Shepard, and then we're prompted to talk to Liara and inform her of the discovery.

I think a cerberus email is rather unlikely if the DLC is post suicide mission.

[jlb524]

Barquiel wrote...

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

By the way, I hope that the trigger for this DLC is not that Cerberus emails the location of the Shadow Broker to Shepard, and then we're prompted to talk to Liara and inform her of the discovery.

I think a cerberus email is rather unlikely if the DLC is post suicide mission.

Indeed...I'm done with Cerberus

I agree, Les...I think Liara will contact her yourself in order to trigger this DLC.

[JamieCOTC]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

By the way, I hope that the trigger for this DLC is not that Cerberus emails the location of the Shadow Broker to Shepard, and then we're prompted to talk to Liara and inform her of the discovery. To me, that cheapens Liara's hunt and the trials, heartache and tribulations she has endured over the past two years attempting to track it down. It makes it appear as if Shepard is coming to Liara's rescue and helping her out with something she is unable to manage, which I feel is a great disservice to her character.

I'd much rather Liara contact Shepard after locating the SB herself, or at least after making a key breakthrough in her hunt which then prompts the start of the mission. That way, it displays Liara as the intelligent, capable and competant person we know she is, and reaffirms the fact that she is able to accomplish her goals without Shepard needing to come to her aid.

It also does a bit of disservice to TIM.  The Shadow Broker is his prime nemesis.   Would he really just send an email to Shep saying, “Oh, btw, we tracked down the SB. Go get ‘im.”  As I said in the past, I’m interested in how this triggers.  All dlc in ME has triggered pretty much from the start of the game.  Yes, BW could crap out on us and give Shep a message via TIM concerning the whereabouts of Shadow, but that would negate the dialog Shep has w/ Liara later on.  That scene would have to be cut out or redone, otherwise it would make no sense.  (Of course doing Overlord post SM makes no sense either, but it can be done that way).  So, to my mind, it would make more sense to either get the mission sometime after meeting her on Ilium (and before the SM) or that it be post SM.  I guess we will finally see sometime the next month or so. 

[Marcin K]

goin offline -i'll be in the groups -as for here cya tomorrow

[jlb524]

Cya Marcin.



But really, Liara is the quest giver for this mission...whereas TIM/Cerberus was the quest giver for the Overlord/Firewalker missions...she should be the one to contact Shepard.

[JamieCOTC]

I suppose you could get this mission from the get go, having to explore some planet for whatever and then uncover a lead to the location of the SB. Putting it in the beginning like that still negates the Ilium dialog, unless BW intends to change that scene.

[jlb524]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Yeah, I agree that an email from Cerberus will be extremely unlikely if the DLC is indeed post-suicide mission, but I was just making the point that I don't want the scenario of Mary Sue Shepard rides in to save the day for Liara, and in the process renders Liara's 2 years of pain and torture as completely redundant. I want Liara to be the one that makes the breakthrough in her own hunt for the Shadow Broker.

Yes, that would suck for Liara.

Liara studied the Prothean extinction for 50 years, the answer just falls into Shepard's lap, due to an accidental exposure to a Prothean beacon.

Liara has hunted the Shadow Broker for 2 years, his/her/its whereabouts just happen to fall into Shepards lap somehow.

That would be a terrible pattern!

[jlb524]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Hmmm, I'm reluctant to believe that will be the case. Every single DLC so far has been availble immediately after Freedom's Progress. This is obviously not possible with Liara's DLC, as the player is unable to visit Illium until later in the game. That is another reason as to why I believe this DLC will be post-suicide mission.

That's a good point, and Liara's ME2 quest cannot start until a decent chunk of the game is complete (Intro and Freedom's Progress, Mordin/Jack/Garrus/Grunt recruitment missions, plus Horizon).