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#43926
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Lizardviking wrote...


If she gets the proper equipment then she could still maintain alot of the data she have collected. The Normandy SR-2 is equppied with an AI which could easily help her with it.


Exactly like have been said the SB information network is too big for one person to handle it but EDI would be capable of handle it Liara would be the one in charge but EDI would be the one that handle all the information this way Liara can be on the Normandy, be a squadmate and still maintain the control over the SB information network and use it to help Shepard.

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Shepard is going to need aid from somewhere, both monetary and of the information variety. I doubt either Cerberus or the Alliance will be backing the Commander initially in ME3. If you've read the new novel, then you know what I'm talking about.

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jlb524 wrote...

Shepard is going to need aid from somewhere, both monetary and of the information variety. I doubt either Cerberus or the Alliance will be backing the Commander initially in ME3. If you've read the new novel, then you know what I'm talking about.


Well, unless ME3 takes place 5 years later, Cerberus is kind of in a bad place right now, after reading the third book. I'd say half of their organization is dead, or in prison.

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That is true. I hope it doesn't take place 5 yrs later.



At least someone who is not Shepard has decided to do something about the Reapers (Anderson).



But still, the Alliance is in the dark, or doesn't care.



There's always the possibility that the Shadow Broker (who is a 'me first' survivalist type) can be convinced to aid Shepard, and perhaps the purpose of this DLC is to set that up for ME3. If this were the case, then Shepard would have to convince Liara to let go of her desire for vengeance for the greater good. I doubt this would be difficult, as Liara is quite reasonable.

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jlb524 wrote...

That is true. I hope it doesn't take place 5 yrs later.

At least someone who is not Shepard has decided to do something about the Reapers (Anderson).

But still, the Alliance is in the dark, or doesn't care.

There's always the possibility that the Shadow Broker (who is a 'me first' survivalist type) can be convinced to aid Shepard, and perhaps the purpose of this DLC is to set that up for ME3. If this were the case, then Shepard would have to convince Liara to let go of her desire for vengeance for the greater good. I doubt this would be difficult, as Liara is quite reasonable.


What if the Broker kills Feron in from of her eyes then?

As for the Alliance and Anderson, I'm still wondering if Anderson will be off the Council or not in ME3, since he's clearly labeled as not being on the Council.

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Actually, if you had to choose, who would you pick to be on your side: Udina or TIM?

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Actually, if you had to choose, who would you pick to be on your side: Udina or TIM?


Udina, he is the lesser of the two evils .

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Actually, if you had to choose, who would you pick to be on your side: Udina or TIM?

That's a tough one, Udina will fight for humanity, then bend over for the council after any small victory. TIM puts humanity first but he likes to kick puppies to test kicking techniques for a human super soldier. If Udina could stop selling us out, I would go with him.

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Wow....





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TMA LIVE wrote...

Actually, if you had to choose, who would you pick to be on your side: Udina or TIM?


TIM.

Both of them would proberly both screw me over.

But since I already have Anderson. I rather have someone with a lot of contacts to the underworld so to speak.

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TMA LIVE wrote...

What if the Broker kills Feron in from of her eyes then?

As for the Alliance and Anderson, I'm still wondering if Anderson will be off the Council or not in ME3, since he's clearly labeled as not being on the Council.


Well...that would probably ****** her off and make Shepard's job a bit harder :P

Anderson is done with the Council and politics...he was done being on the Council by the time the events of the novel began...in ME3, Udina will be Councilor no matter what.

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Lizardviking wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

Actually, if you had to choose, who would you pick to be on your side: Udina or TIM?


TIM.

Both of them would proberly both screw me over.

But since I already have Anderson. I rather have someone with a lot of contacts to the underworld so to speak.



But on the flip-side, TIM would be able to screw you over more given that he has more power and resources than Udina.

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jlb524 wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

Actually, if you had to choose, who would you pick to be on your side: Udina or TIM?


TIM.

Both of them would proberly both screw me over.

But since I already have Anderson. I rather have someone with a lot of contacts to the underworld so to speak.



But on the flip-side, TIM would be able to screw you over more given that he has more power and resources than Udina.


Yeah, Udina just needs a punch in the face, and he's done. TIM, that's another story.

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jlb524 wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

Actually, if you had to choose, who would you pick to be on your side: Udina or TIM?


TIM.

Both of them would proberly both screw me over.

But since I already have Anderson. I rather have someone with a lot of contacts to the underworld so to speak.



But on the flip-side, TIM would be able to screw you over more given that he has more power and resources than Udina.


TIM is smart enough not to screw with Shepard until the reapers are defeated. Once that is done however, TIM is certain to do something if you destroyed the base or something.

But if Anderson is no longer on the council then my decision is suddenly alot more difficult. I might just pick Udina because I flat out refuse to believe the council and the alliance is as retarded as they seem to be in ME2.

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Lizardviking wrote...

TIM is smart enough not to screw with Shepard until the reapers are defeated.


I don't know about that...TIM doesn't seem to give a crap about Shepard in the novel.

I believe Shepard was just a tool TIM used to fight the immediate Collector threat...he's got many other alternative plans in regards to fighting the Reapers, and probably doesn't feel he absolutely needs Shepard for all of them, or any of them.

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jlb524 wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

TIM is smart enough not to screw with Shepard until the reapers are defeated.


I don't know about that...TIM doesn't seem to give a crap about Shepard in the novel.

I believe Shepard was just a tool TIM used to fight the immediate Collector threat...he's got many other alternative plans in regards to fighting the Reapers, and probably doesn't feel he absolutely needs Shepard for all of them, or any of them.


While Shepard is somewhat of an investment that was expendable (wacht the Shepard dies/Base saved ending). He must know that Shepard is still no matter what a powerful tool in the fight against the Reapers and knows that it's not excatly a bright move to go against him.

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TIM has made plenty of 'not so bright' moves in the past :innocent:

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Oh, here's my romance ending hopes for this DLC...

What should happen is:

If in...

ME1: Romanced Liara and in ME2: stayed faithful to Liara
The player gets a kick ass love scene at the end!

ME1: Romanced Liara and in ME2: did not stay faithful to Liara
Liara notices this Shepard is 'distant' with her, and maybe even sees the picture turned down.....Liara tells this Shepard that she/he needs to work out their feelings, and the romance is held off until ME3.

ME1: Did not romance Liara
Liara thanks Shepard for helping her, and their friendship continues.

Modifié par jlb524, 30 juillet 2010 - 04:52 .


#43944
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jlb524 wrote...

TIM has made plenty of 'not so bright' moves in the past :innocent:


Of course. But hopefully he's smart enough to know that most of Shepard's enemies happen to get a nasty case of death.

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Lizardviking wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

TIM has made plenty of 'not so bright' moves in the past :innocent:


Of course. But hopefully he's smart enough to know that most of Shepard's enemies happen to get a nasty case of death.


Hopefully, but he's also arrogant.

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Perhaps Aria is being set up to fund Shepard and the mission, and assume the role of "quest giver" in ME3? Part of me doubts that the Shadow Broker will adopt this role in ME3, and that Liara will need to be convinced that it is for the best. Call it a hunch.

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I have an idea of how Liara is going to act in the DLC if you moved on for the right reasons (aka, not to just have sex with Miranda because she's hot), but I'd like to keep it private till it happens or it doesn't happen.

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EDIT: Might as well keep my predictions to myself for now.

Now, between TIM and Udina, I say: why not both? Illusive Man might not agree with your methods, but he understands the threat, and grudgingly agrees that Shepard knows what he's doing. Udina is just a prissy little politician, but the Council will be forced to acknowledge the Reaper threat when there is solid evidence (aren't the geth a potential ally? Can't they verify that the Reapers exist since the Heretics served Soveregin first-hand?). There's no way the Council will (entirely) bury their heads in the sand.

Modifié par Sigilius, 30 juillet 2010 - 04:59 .


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Also, why would the Shadow Broker suddenly be concerned about the Reaper threat at large? It had no qualms about aiding the Collectors, which it must know serve the Reapers. Throughout the story so far, the SB has displayed itself to be completely immoral and only cares about money, and increasing it's own power by playing the political game. In addition, it has become a menace to galactic society that needs to be stopped after it broke it's own vow of neutrality in order to aid the Collectors. Liara is aware of this, and believes that she is stopping the Shadow Broker for the benefit of galactic society.

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Perhaps Aria is being set up to fund Shepard and the mission, and assume the role of "quest giver" in ME3? Part of me doubts that the Shadow Broker will adopt this role in ME3, and that Liara will need to be convinced that it is for the best. Call it a hunch.


Not so sure, since lots of Aria's people are dead now as well.