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[jlb524]

TMA LIVE wrote...

Speaking of which, wouldn't it be weird if they were romance options, and you found out you've been sleeping with her father behind her back?

Yes, that would be awkward

[jlb524]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

It must have done. The fact that only Collector ships are able to safely and successfully use the Omega 4 relay, itself Reaper technology, should heavily imply and indicate that they are slaves to the Reapers. The SB is the best in the business, if it is unaware of the fact that the Collectors serve the Reapers then it is not as good as we thought it is.

The SB would only know that the Collectors are using some advanced technology, but not necessarily that it is the Reapers'...for all the SB knows, it's just Collector technology.  Ultimately, all Collector technology is Reaper technology, but that isn't discovered until Shep and co. do so.

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...
Also, Aria's sphere of influence is but a fraction of the SB's. Aria controls Omega, the SB manipulates and controls the entire galaxy.

The third novel would like to have a word with you...


Her influence extends well beyond Omega, even onto the Citadel, though, this isn't common knowledge (and she wants to keep it that way )

[jlb524]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

J...I must know! Are you trying to discredit the belief that the SB is aware of the fact that the Collectors are pawns of the Reapers, or are you merely suggesting that might not necessarily be the case?

I would definitely agree with the latter, as what I suggest isn't a certainty. However, I don't think that it is impossible as I believe you are trying to argue.

I'm just making a suggestion..I have no idea!  We no nothing about the SB atm.

Oh... *is ignorant*

Aria's influence is still a fraction of the SB's, yo!

How do you know?  We know nuthin about the SB...hopefully, that will change soon.

[Marcin K]

time to go offline, sorry for not being active today, but CS2 y know....anyways, cya tomorrow

[jlb524]

Bye Marcin!

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Liara's DLC is, in all probability, going to be freaking awesome, and everything that we've hoped for as Liara fans!

Just wanted to say that.

And...if it's not?

[Ulathar]

Pitchforks, torches....you know, the usual. ;-)

[jlb524]

Systemlord Baal wrote...

Pitchforks, torches....you know, the usual. ;-)

[jlb524]

I'm curious to see what a 'Simpsonified' Liara would look like.



/random

[kraidy1117]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

I could probably create a reasonable looking "South Park Liara" using the character creator. Hee! I should try to!

[Sunnie]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

And...if it's not?

I am prepared. I will be massively disappointed, of course, but I am prepared.

I do not believe that I will be disappointed, however. Liara's character will receive the justice she deserves!

Don't forget...

[jlb524]

Sunnie22 wrote...

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

And...if it's not?

I am prepared. I will be massively disappointed, of course, but I am prepared.

I do not believe that I will be disappointed, however. Liara's character will receive the justice she deserves!

Don't forget...

Oh snap!

[Sigilius]

I'm of the opinion that the Shadow Broker either A) doesn't believe in the Reaper threat, it's so well hidden by the Reapers (think about it, TIM is taking the Reaper threat on Shepard's word as well, at least until they find the derelict Reaper), but this is unlikely. Or he's like Saren in thinking that by aiding the reapers he will survive and quite possibly accumulate even more power in their circle. If he does, he's deluded.

But we know one thing, if he knows the Reapers exist, he's already declared his allegiances. He has to be stopped.

Modifié par Sigilius, 30 juillet 2010 - 07:38 .

[Dinkamus_Littlelog]

Sigilius wrote...

I'm of the opinion that the Shadow Broker either A) doesn't believe in the Reaper threat, it's so well hidden by the Reapers (think about it, TIM is taking the Reaper threat on Shepard's word as well, at least until they find the derelict Reaper), but this is unlikely. Or he's like Saren in thinking that by aiding the reapers he will survive and quite possibly accumulate even more power in their circle. If he does, he's deluded.

But we know one thing, if he knows the Reapers exist, he's already declared his allegiances. He has to be stopped.

Just a quick post before I head out:

I think, its a pretty slim chance, but the SB is not unlike TIM in that the SB thinks that they need to gain a deep understanding of the reapers to have any chance of surviving, let alone defeat them.

The collectors do give out their technology and information to those who work for them, dont they? Im sure it was mentioned in ME2 that they are willing to give away some of their secrets for the resources they require.

I certainly hope whatever the SBs "payment" was however, that the DLC reveals it, and its much more than just money. Otherwise why make such an open secret of it?

If nothing else it shows that this DLC still has a lot of questions to answer, so hopefully that bodes well for the length of the DLC. If not, itll probably bode poorly for the quality of it instead.

[1490]

I haven't been on the forums a while, but my interest is turning back to ME 2 now that a Liara DLC is coming out. Since this thread is huge, could someone give me the long and short of the theories at the moment: do you think Liara will be a temporary squadmate in this DLC? Do you think that the romance will be continued, or will Bioware blow it off until ME 3?

[Master Wolf]

1490 wrote...

I haven't been on the forums a while, but my interest is turning back to ME 2 now that a Liara DLC is coming out. Since this thread is huge, could someone give me the long and short of the theories at the moment: do you think Liara will be a temporary squadmate in this DLC? Do you think that the romance will be continued, or will Bioware blow it off until ME 3?

For now I  belive that Liara will be a temporary squadmate or at least be in the missons fallowing Shepard and the squad or like in the suicide misson doing other things out of view and apearing from time to time. About the romace I belive that will be at least some romance contente how much romance content I have no idea. But I'm sure that the romance with Liara will be continued in this DLC.

Modifié par Master Wolf, 30 juillet 2010 - 09:23 .

[Dinkamus_Littlelog]

Master Wolf wrote...

For now I  belive that Liara will be a temporary squadmate or at least be in the missons fallowing Shepard and the squad or like in the suicide misson doing other things out of view and apearing from time to time. About the romace I belive that will be at least some romance contente how much romance content I have no idea. But I'm sure that the romance with Liara will be continued in this DLC.

I think the "suicide mission" setup is most likely, and as for romance content, Im not sure. If there is any direct romance content, well be very lucky. I personally think it might deal with the romance, but perhaps in the same indirect (and rather unsatisfying) way the main game did.

I think well probably be able to explore this problem with Liara and comfort her, and Id like to think if were lucky well get a kind of "we should try and start over again" message that possibly lights the way for ME3.

Because really, there was none of that in ME2. No "were still together"/"weve broken up", or "we can try again in the future" message at all. It was just one awkward broken off kiss and then its all "SHADOW BROKER!" and "I couldnt tell you I saved your life because I was afraid you would hate me".

Really though, Im having a hard time seeing direct romance content that is altered based on your decisions so far. If they do have that, itll be extremely impressive because thats hard work considering all the possible variations so far.

[jlb524]

1490 wrote...

I haven't been on the forums a while, but my interest is turning back to ME 2 now that a Liara DLC is coming out. Since this thread is huge, could someone give me the long and short of the theories at the moment: do you think Liara will be a temporary squadmate in this DLC? Do you think that the romance will be continued, or will Bioware blow it off until ME 3?

About her squad mate status, here are the popular theories:

1)  Liara will be a temporary squad mate for the DLC, along with two other squad mates of your choosing, giving the player a 4 person squad with Shepard.  Changes to the game mechanics will have to be made, obviously, and some feel that Christina Norman's twitter about Project Wombat may have something to do with this.

2)  Liara will be a squad mate in the same sense that Garrus was during his recruitment mission.  She is there fighting with Shepard and team, but the player cannot issue commands to her.

3)  Liara will not be in the squad during these missions and will be off doing her own thing, showing up at key points for dialog.

After the mission is over, some think she may join Shepard on the Normandy, at least as a non-squad mate NPC (like Kelly or Dr. Chakwas) while some think she will have an excuse as to why she cannot join at that time.

Regarding the romance, I think the DLC will feel a bit different for those that did romance her (some dialog will be different) however, I do not feel that the romance will be continued in the sense that there will be some great romance reconcilliation scene at the end of the DLC...I believe this will not happen until ME3.  

Some think the DLC will end with the romance being reconciled and then continued on into ME3.   I doubt this, given the possibility that Shepard could have moved on to another LI, and they probably won't want to deal with that in DLC.  However, it is possible that only those that were faithful will get a nice romance scene, while those that did not will wait until ME3 to possibly reconcile the romance and choose either between the ME2 LI or Liara.

Modifié par jlb524, 30 juillet 2010 - 10:56 .

[Sigilius]

1490 wrote...

I haven't been on the forums a while, but my interest is turning back to ME 2 now that a Liara DLC is coming out. Since this thread is huge, could someone give me the long and short of the theories at the moment: do you think Liara will be a temporary squadmate in this DLC? Do you think that the romance will be continued, or will Bioware blow it off until ME 3?

Others have enumerated their beliefs very well. Allow me to specify my own:

I feel this will be the first of the Post-Suicide missions, as many hear have already heard before. Since the Mission is over, and the risk of teammates having to attend/die in it has passed, Liara has full potential to be a Normandy crew member without actually being a party member. However, the chances of this are quite slim.

On another note, the chance of alternate/additional dialogue for those who romanced her is quite high, seeing as BioWare had to recall Hale/Meer and Hills to record this DLC anyway. It would make absolutely no sense at all to exclude romantic content, even if it is only dialogue (although you can't, as I've said countless times, trust a game developer to do what makes sense, even BioWare). But I am counting on Mass Effect's writers to come through for us. And if any studio can, it is BioWare.