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[Master Wolf]

IMO that screenshot is from a cutscene for example in the suicide misson there are moments in wich we can see four five squadmates in the hold the door moments but they are not all in our squad so for me that screenshot is one of those moments in wich Shepard and Liara team are fighting together and that body of the asari in the ground are probably of one of the elements of Liara team that was kiled if you noticed the body is facing the same direction as Liara and Shepard indicating that she too was pointing in that direction. Like I said I wouldn't mind if Liara only is in another place leading her own team as long there's still some coversations with Liara so this DLC would serve to show how good leader Liara is and to show how powerful and capable she is like I said before this is Liara misson she should have a major role in it in ME3 we will have a lot of time to enjoy Liara as plot important squadmate.

Modifié par Master Wolf, 01 août 2010 - 06:32 .

[Master Wolf]

And like I said before I would like that the final confrontation it's just Liara and Shepard against the SB in that part Liara would be a squadmate this way we can have both Liara leading her own team and also havig Liara as squadmate in the most important part of the DLC. But this it's just my opinion and how I would like to see it.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

IndigoWolfe wrote...
I'll have to pull my "seeing what you want to see" card for this one. If there were edits like the ones you're suggesting to the characters, then it wouldn't be in the screenshots Media folder. It would be shinied up a bit more and made into a wallpaper. The screenshot folder is for unaltered screens taken from the game. Bioware have never done anything like what you're suggesting, and if they did it would probably fall into the category of false advertising.

Both Garrus and Tali's respective poses and postures seem to be specifically tailored for their own unique characterisations, and the firearms they are holding. In ME2, squadmates never use individual weapons when occupying an interchangeable squadmate position selected by the player. If they are shown carrying a weapon, it's always a generic assault rifle. The only occasions in which characters carry their own weapons is during their recruitment or loyalty missions, when it's mandatory for them to occupy that squadmate position. As that is not the case with Liara's DLC and because any squadmate can be selected, that cannot be an unaltered screenshot. The image has been doctored for the purposes of style.

Actuelly there are a few cases were squadmates use their currently wielded weapon instead of what they should. The confrontation with Niket on Miranda's loyalty mission being the only case I can remember so far.  During the confrontation all squadmates use a pistol, however squadmates that don't have a pistol/SMG (like Garrus) will instead hold their currently used weapon like one.

"EDIT" LES I'm pretty sure thats just a screenshot of Thane's idle animation.

Modifié par Lizardviking, 01 août 2010 - 06:42 .

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...
Actuelly there are a few cases were squadmates use their currently wielded weapon instead of what they should. The confrontation with Niket on Miranda's loyalty mission being the only case I can remember so far.  During the confrontation all squadmates use a pistol, however squadmates that don't have a pistol/SMG (like Garrus) will instead hold their currently used weapon like one.

"EDIT" LES I'm pretty sure thats just a screenshot of Thane's idle animation.

Exactly. They hold their weapon like a pistol. In that screenshot, Garrus is clearly shown to be wielding his sniper rifle.

Or maybe that specific squadmate wields their weapon like a shotgun. But since Garrus doesn't have one he uses his currently wielded weapon.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

Or maybe that specific squadmate wields their weapon like a shotgun. But since Garrus doesn't have one he uses his currently wielded weapon.

Why would they have said squadmate, and only said squadmate, wield their weapon like a shotgun? Especially considering the fact that a pistol or generic assault rifle seems to be the standard for cutscenes?

Furthermore, I do not believe that squaddies fire shotguns from the hip either.

Maybe they just said "Hey let's for once have squadmate use a shotgun in a cutscene, it could be cool!"

Most squadies don't hold their gun in a dramatic fashion in-game either. Which they do in some cutscenes.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

In addition, Tali also has a pistol in her hand, and another still holstered. That should not be the case, and she should have her shotgun strapped to her lower back.

There is so much evidence pointing to the fact that the "screenshot" is altered it is amazing.

Tali holds a SMG in her hand. But since she doesn't actuelly have one in-game. Results in her having all her other weapon holstered.

And i'm pretty sure you can't see her shotgun due to the angle.

[Slakky]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

I also do not recall Thane ever pulling on his collar in this manner:



Altered screenshots are not unheard of.

The animation is from one of the renegade interrogation options for his loyalty mission.  I never used him enough to notice if he did that just standing around.

Seems like most of these official screenshots are taken with dev builds, so they're probably just triggering random stuff to produce a result that's visually interesting and not caring too much if it's 100% consistent with proper gameplay mechanics.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

Tali holds a SMG in her hand. But since she doesn't actuelly have one in-game. Results in her having all her other weapon holstered.

And i'm pretty sure you can't see her shotgun due to the angle.

No, you'd see the shotgun protruding from her waist.

Again, why would she be holding an SMG, when she cannot use one? The image has been altered.

My soldier Shepard have a tendency to use a SMG in cutscenes, despite never ever having one in-game.

Tali wields her SMG the same Shepard holds his pistol during the confrontation with Zaeed if Vido escapes.

Garrus wields his sniper rifle like Shepard holds his shotgun during the lsat cutscene in the N7 mission where you have to rescue a injured quarian.

[IndigoWolfe]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

I also do not recall Thane ever pulling on his collar in this manner:



Altered screenshots are not unheard of.

I would have to say that it's an "idle" animation. I could be wrong, but I highly suspect that he does if you just stand there long enough.

[pf17456]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

Tali holds a SMG in her hand. But since she doesn't actuelly have one in-game. Results in her having all her other weapon holstered.

And i'm pretty sure you can't see her shotgun due to the angle.

No, you'd see the shotgun protruding from her waist.

Again, why would she be holding an SMG, when she cannot use one? The image has been altered.

LET if your theory is correct then I should be able to take Liara on all of the side quest missions I left for the end, after the suicide mission. I hope you're right.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Slakky wrote...
Seems like most of these official screenshots are taken with dev builds, so they're probably just triggering random stuff to produce a result that's visually interesting and not caring too much if it's 100% consistent with proper gameplay mechanics.

Exactly, and this points to the fact that the devs will alter character models or create alterations not consistent with gameplay in order to produce visually appealing or stylish screenshots.

No. All the things you've seen in that screenshot are in the game.

[IndigoWolfe]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

Or maybe that specific squadmate wields their weapon like a shotgun. But since Garrus doesn't have one he uses his currently wielded weapon.

Why would they have said squadmate, and only said squadmate, wield their weapon like a shotgun? Especially considering the fact that a pistol or generic assault rifle seems to be the standard for cutscenes?

Furthermore, I do not believe that squaddies fire shotguns from the hip either.

If you'll recall, there's a mercenary in Garrus' recruitment mission who holds and fires a grenade launcher from his hip during a cutscene. From what I can tell, it's the same animated posture that Garrus has.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

IndigoWolfe wrote...

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

Or maybe that specific squadmate wields their weapon like a shotgun. But since Garrus doesn't have one he uses his currently wielded weapon.

Why would they have said squadmate, and only said squadmate, wield their weapon like a shotgun? Especially considering the fact that a pistol or generic assault rifle seems to be the standard for cutscenes?

Furthermore, I do not believe that squaddies fire shotguns from the hip either.

If you'll recall, there's a mercenary in Garrus' recruitment mission who holds and fires a grenade launcher from his hip during a cutscene. From what I can tell, it's the same animated posture that Garrus has.

Exactly. Shepard also wields a shotgun that way in the end cutscene of "rescue the injuired Qurian" N7 mission.

And Tali uses the same posture like Shepard does when you gun down the injured krogan in Mordin's loyalty mission or in the paragon ending of Zaeed's loyalty mission.

[IndigoWolfe]

Alright, to be clear, I think I should point out that on review of the subject in question, I will conceed that Bioware do in fact tweak things a little to get more interesting-looking screenshots for the site. However, I still stand by my opinion that I do not think Bioware would alter things to the level of where it appears we have a fourth squadmate.