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Is their any difference in Liara's reunion with Shepard if she wasnt a LI?
Besides the hug instead of the kiss?

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Somebody1003 wrote...

Is their any difference in Liara's reunion with Shepard if she wasnt a LI?
Besides the hug instead of the kiss?


If you weren't an LI, she gives you less money for completing her hacking missions.  That's all I'm aware of (besides the hug/kiss distinction).

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Now I'll go check out that song.

I like this pic too!

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Liara's deep in thought. She looks sad and retrospective.

Also, I can't wait to get Liara back on board the Normandy again!

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Is their any difference in Liara's reunion with Shepard if she wasnt a LI?
Besides the hug instead of the kiss?


As well as that and what J says, Liara does "act" differently too. She smiles at Shepard alot more if she is your LI, and also when she tells you she can't come with you, she says it apologetically instead of snappily if she's not your LI.

Overall, there's less frowning from Liara and a little more warmth if she's your LI.

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jlb524 wrote...

Somebody1003 wrote...

Is their any difference in Liara's reunion with Shepard if she wasnt a LI?
Besides the hug instead of the kiss?


If you weren't an LI, she gives you less money for completing her hacking missions.  That's all I'm aware of (besides the hug/kiss distinction).

I can't remember, doe she still say the whole "I couldn't let you go" part if you didn't romance her? I don't think she said that to me when I used my Kaidan Shep, but I don't know if that's because I screwed up the dialogue and inadvertently skipped it or not.

I wish that line wasn't so easy to miss -.- it was like, my favorite part of talking to her XD

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Somebody1003 wrote...

Is their any difference in Liara's reunion with Shepard if she wasnt a LI?
Besides the hug instead of the kiss?


As well as that and what J says, Liara does "act" differently too. She smiles at Shepard alot more if she is your LI, and also when she tells you she can't come with you, she says it apologetically instead of snappily if she's not your LI.

Overall, there's less frowning from Liara and a little more warmth if she's your LI.

I have to check this out for myself, I just started my import without Liara as the LI.

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I can't remember, doe she still say the whole "I couldn't let you go" part if you didn't romance her? I don't think she said that to me when I used my Kaidan Shep, but I don't know if that's because I screwed up the dialogue and inadvertently skipped it or not.


She says that line regardless.  I think it should just be for a Shepard that romanced her.

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

Now I'll go check out that song.

I like this pic too!

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Liara's deep in thought. She looks sad and retrospective.

Also, I can't wait to get Liara back on board the Normandy again!


Oh, all the enthusiasm here is causing me to ... clarify something about my last post -- while I can wait for Liara to be aboard the Normandy so long as she's happier than she is now... I really would not object to her being aboard all the time and working at the spare desk in Shepard's cabin and sleeping in Shepard's bed and yes, I kinda had to go back and change both instances of 'Shepard's' over from 'my' because I can't help but get a little possessive where :wub:LiLi:wub: is concerned and ... I'll stop now.:D

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jlb524 wrote...

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I can't remember, doe she still say the whole "I couldn't let you go" part if you didn't romance her? I don't think she said that to me when I used my Kaidan Shep, but I don't know if that's because I screwed up the dialogue and inadvertently skipped it or not.


She says that line regardless.  I think it should just be for a Shepard that romanced her.

:o I'm surprised it isn't already. I thought that was rather intimate.

Well then I really am appalled by the lack of LI recognition there. I thought that was a little tip of the hat to our romance carrying over. Huh.

Well that's BS. I demand reparations now.

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Crimmsonwind wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

Crimmsonwind wrote...

I can't remember, doe she still say the whole "I couldn't let you go" part if you didn't romance her? I don't think she said that to me when I used my Kaidan Shep, but I don't know if that's because I screwed up the dialogue and inadvertently skipped it or not.


She says that line regardless.  I think it should just be for a Shepard that romanced her.

:o I'm surprised it isn't already. I thought that was rather intimate.

Well then I really am appalled by the lack of LI recognition there. I thought that was a little tip of the hat to our romance carrying over. Huh.

Well that's BS. I demand reparations now.

I agree, I wanted something more from her to show she was still interested in me besides that kiss.:unsure:

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Oh, all the enthusiasm here is causing me to ... clarify something about my last post -- while I can wait for Liara to be aboard the Normandy so long as she's happier than she is now... I really would not object to her being aboard all the time and working at the spare desk in Shepard's cabin and sleeping in Shepard's bed and yes, I kinda had to go back and change both instances of 'Shepard's' over from 'my' because I can't help but get a little possessive where :wub:LiLi:wub: is concerned and ... I'll stop now.:D


I'd love that too! Every time Shepard returns to his/her cabin there's Liara to greet him/her! Kiss, cuddle and then asleep in bed together!:wub:

Also, I love your nickname of LiLi for her. So sweet! Devs, can we have Shepard call Liara "LiLi" at some point please? :P

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:o I'm surprised it isn't already. I thought that was rather intimate.

Well then I really am appalled by the lack of LI recognition there. I thought that was a little tip of the hat to our romance carrying over. Huh.

Well that's BS. I demand reparations now.


I think that what that hints at is that Liara is in love with Shepard regardless of whether it is reciprocated or not. I know, there should be more recognition of the romance, but you've got to take what you're given.

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That would be fun if your LI took up residence in your room. But what if Shepard needed private time? She/he didn't buy Fornax for nothing...

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Her saying she cant let you go still makes sense even if you didn't romance her in ME1. She's always had a crush on Shepard, that stemmed from the Prothean beacon. But yeah, we totally should have gotten more LI stuff other than the awkward open-eyed kiss, and 500 more credits for The Observer mission. :(

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That would be fun if your LI took up residence in your room. But what if Shepard needed private time? She/he didn't buy Fornax for nothing...

That's what the bathroom that I didn't know even existed until yesterday is for.

Seriously. I walked past it and was like HOLY HELL THE WALL JUST OPENED UP... a toilet? Sweet I have a bathroom!

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I'd say it's definitely implied Liara loves/adores Shepard regardless of whether or not Shepard reciprocates. I mean, stealing someone's corpse for a chance to see them again and then spending two years attempting to avenge them is pretty intense.



In a natural conversation that would probably be something Shepard would ask her - even if she's not the love interest wouldn't that be something Shepard would ask? Sort of a "Where exactly do we stand?" type of thing.

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Yeah, it's pretty sweet that her sole motivation for recovering Shepard's body is love, and that's regardless of you romancing her or not. If she is your love interest, it makes it that much more special. The whole story needs it's proper emotional due in DLC, I want a proper heartfelt reunion that consoles and comforts Liara, helps her get over her guilt and reassures her.

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Driveninhifi wrote...

I'd say it's definitely implied Liara loves/adores Shepard regardless of whether or not Shepard reciprocates. I mean, stealing someone's corpse for a chance to see them again and then spending two years attempting to avenge them is pretty intense.

In a natural conversation that would probably be something Shepard would ask her - even if she's not the love interest wouldn't that be something Shepard would ask? Sort of a "Where exactly do we stand?" type of thing.


Or...

"Liara, listen, I appreciate what you've done, but please, stop stalking me. Seriously. You're freaking me out a little." ~If she wasn't an LI.

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Or...

"Liara, listen, I appreciate what you've done, but please, stop stalking me. Seriously. You're freaking me out a little." ~If she wasn't an LI.


That's the Renegade response. :P

In all seriousness, Liara's devotion to Shepard is quite sweet. She put herself through all that out of love? D'Awwwww. :wub:

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screwoffreg wrote...

That would be fun if your LI took up residence in your room. But what if Shepard needed private time? She/he didn't buy Fornax for nothing...

That's what the bathroom that I didn't know even existed until yesterday is for.

Seriously. I walked past it and was like HOLY HELL THE WALL JUST OPENED UP... a toilet? Sweet I have a bathroom!


Slightly off-topic, but I think that said toilet may have made the GameStop ad for the pre-order wep they got.  You know, with JohnShepard shooting that singularity weapon and then asking 'where do you think they go afterwards'?

Still, I will have my Shep toss that out and bribe the Codex narrator to pretend there never was any such magazine in the room when and if LiLi moves in.  Unless she's more open-minded than we may think...

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Liara won't be happy on one playthrough when Tali is sitting at the desk. There will be blood...

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Liara won't be happy on one playthrough when Tali is sitting at the desk. There will be blood...


Tali would NEVER make it to my desk in any of my playthroughs.:police:

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It was definitely nice to see all of the Liara pictures tonight (tonight for me).

Liara will have her day in an Expansion very soon. I am sure of it.
BioWare is not stupid, they won't leave their story incomplete and leave important characters that people love out of the game.
They even said they would be putting out varying sizes of DLC (from weapons up to a full expansion).

The two desks in the Normandy was definitely interesting. (Sorry to that guy who uses two desks, lol.)
As developers, they wouldn't create more then they had to, that probably means that Shepard will have someone in their quarters (Liara!). The no Teammates in Shep's quarters was also strange, why put that in there at all? The ME2 LIs can't stay in the quarters. Again, they don't do more work than they have to if it is not needed.

The signs all point to something great coming! :D

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I was thinking of the Liara situation and ultimately how tragic her romance is. No matter what happens, Shepard will die again, living only a mere fraction of the Asari's life. She will bond to someone who will not be in her life for centuries, leaving her alone, permanently. It reminded me of the below video, in regards to Arwen in Lord of the Rings:







One could almost say the same things to Liara...

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It's not necessarily tragic though. All Asari have that issue unless they bond with another Asari or a Krogan.

She loves Shepard, and knows what she's getting into. Though it's still hard to predict how she'll react to Shepard's eventual death - for she talked about Asari being philosophical about their relationships and their partner's mortality, she certainly didn't _act_ that way when Shepard died.



Maybe she'll take another partner. Maybe Shepard can encourage her to do so. I'm not sure it's in character for her to actually do that - and then there's the issue of her new partner living up to Shepard. A bit of a hard act to follow, with the whole "savior of the universe" thing.



Shepard may also live a long time, or maybe Mordin's got some genetic modification up his sleeve to extend Shepard's life.