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Fiannawolf

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IT would be awesome to have the whole ME1 crew together for a mission or 3....maybe it will happen in DLC hooking 2 to 3.

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Do you guys think that Liara will react diffrently to you during the DLC if you cheated on her in ME2?


There are actually several ways in which the romance can be featured in this DLC for those that remained faithful to Liara, without tackling any consequences for cheating which will obviously be saved for ME3. One way in which that may be possible is if unfaithful Shepards were to act distant and evasive when talking to Liara, or perhaps blow her off in regards to the romance. Whereas faithful Shepards will be able to reaffirm the romance with her, and romantic content would be featured in full.

Another possible implementation is the ability to end the romance with Liara outright, which obviously removes the romance flag for ME3. I think that may also be plausible.

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Fiannawolf wrote...

IT would be awesome to have the whole ME1 crew together for a mission or 3....maybe it will happen in DLC hooking 2 to 3.


Liara DLC

Ashley or Kaidan DLC

Wrex or Wreav DLC

Yes please!

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There'll be plenty of threads to discuss our infiltration and destruction of BioWare offices if a) the DLC doesn't come out soon or B) the DLC is not the greatest thing in history.


It just needs to be okay. Okay means:

  • Some conversations where we can actually choose what to say.
  • The romance needs to be acknowledged.
  • The romance must not be broken up against the will of the player.
  • Liara must not be killed against the will of the player.

Otherwise I will certainly not support it with my money.

Modifié par bjdbwea, 06 août 2010 - 02:52 .


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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

Do you guys think that Liara will react diffrently to you during the DLC if you cheated on her in ME2?


There are actually several ways in which the romance can be featured in this DLC for those that remained faithful to Liara, without tackling any consequences for cheating which will obviously be saved for ME3. One way in which that may be possible is if unfaithful Shepards were to act distant and evasive when talking to Liara, or perhaps blow her off in regards to the romance. Whereas faithful Shepards will be able to reaffirm the romance with her, and romantic content would be featured in full.

Another possible implementation is the ability to end the romance with Liara outright, which obviously removes the romance flag for ME3. I think that may also be plausible.


Having Shepard act like cold against Liara might be a good way for the cheaters feel guilty, but then they might complain over Shepard going OOC.

I just hope we can kick-start the romance again!

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bjdbwea wrote...

WilliamShatner wrote...

There'll be plenty of threads to discuss our infiltration and destruction of BioWare offices if a) the DLC doesn't come out soon or B) the DLC is not the greatest thing in history.


It just needs to be okay. Okay means:

  • Some conversations where we can actually choose what to say.
  • The romance needs to be acknowledged.
  • The romance must not be broken up against the will of the player.
  • Liara must not be killed against the will of the player.

Otherwise I will certainly not support it with my money.

Having the ability to kill Liara off in the first place would be disasterous. As it would serverly compromise the ability to become a squadmate in ME3. 

Also having the ability to break off the romance? Like having Shepard go all Horizon on her?:crying:

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WilliamShatner wrote...

There'll be plenty of threads to discuss our infiltration and destruction of BioWare offices if a) the DLC doesn't come out soon or B) the DLC is not the greatest thing in history.


I plan of taking a gunship loaded with rotten tomatoes out to Edmonton airspace and rain down squishy-smelly doom on Bioware execs as they leave for their cars.

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I'm not saying the DLC provide the possibility to kill her, or break up the romance. I would prefer if at least the first was not possible. But what's important is that if the game provides the chance, it must not be forced upon us.

Modifié par bjdbwea, 06 août 2010 - 03:02 .


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bjdbwea wrote...

WilliamShatner wrote...

There'll be plenty of threads to discuss our infiltration and destruction of BioWare offices if a) the DLC doesn't come out soon or B) the DLC is not the greatest thing in history.

[*]Otherwise I will certainly not support it with my money.

[*]I'm at a cross roads.  On the one hand I don't want any spoilers.  On the other I don't want to support a crap product, or a DLC that moves Liara down a road I don't want.
[*]WOE IS ME!

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Oh, I will definitely wait and see. I know there are enough fellow Liara fans here who will buy the DLC no matter what, so opinions will be available soon enough.



ME 2 was the last time BioWare/EA got any money from me before I know what exactly the product provides. Too bad this also means spoilers, but I just have to accept that.

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There has to be a way to get my paws on this DLC. I just have to find it.

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Time for my weekly check in. Has the shadow broker dlc been dated yet?

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jtav wrote...

There has to be a way to get my paws on this DLC. I just have to find it.


I have a tried and true method of being patient and waiting. Works well for me.

Unless you're Polish.

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epoch_ wrote...

Time for my weekly check in. Has the shadow broker dlc been dated yet?


Not in so far as I can tell.

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Try stuck in the rural US with dial-up.

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IndigoWolfe wrote...

epoch_ wrote...

Time for my weekly check in. Has the shadow broker dlc been dated yet?


Not in so far as I can tell.


Well, what are they waiting for?!?


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Send your fleet in!

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jtav wrote...

Try stuck in the rural US with dial-up.


Oh, well that's definitely a bugger. Have you a desktop, laptop or an Xbox?

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epoch_ wrote...

IndigoWolfe wrote...

epoch_ wrote...

Time for my weekly check in. Has the shadow broker dlc been dated yet?


Not in so far as I can tell.


Well, what are they waiting for?!?


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Send your fleet in!


They're waiting for us to stew in our own sickening feelings of helpless anticipation whilst in entire ignorance.

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Lizardviking wrote...
Having Shepard act like cold against Liara might be a good way for the cheaters feel guilty, but then they might complain over Shepard going OOC.

I just hope we can kick-start the romance again!


Hmmm, perhaps saying that unfaithful Shepards acting cold towards her is a poor choice of words on my part. What I'm suggesting is that Shepard would blow off any romance conversation, and any and all interactions with Liara would be purely platonic. That way, any consequences for cheating would be saved for ME3. Shepard would not act completely cold toward Liara, and would still attempt to comfort her when she opens her heart, as we all speculate will happen. It's just that Shepard would become evasive whenever the romance is discussed.

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IndigoWolfe wrote...

jtav wrote...

Try stuck in the rural US with dial-up.


Oh, well that's definitely a bugger. Have you a desktop, laptop or an Xbox?


Xbox, but also a desktop more than capable of running the game if it came to that.

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bjdbwea wrote...

It just needs to be okay. Okay means:

  • Some conversations where we can actually choose what to say.
  • The romance needs to be acknowledged.
  • The romance must not be broken up against the will of the player.
  • Liara must not be killed against the will of the player.

Otherwise I will certainly not support it with my money.


I would most definitely be happy with that list.

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bjdbwea wrote...

It just needs to be okay. Okay means:

  • Some conversations where we can actually choose what to say.
  • The romance needs to be acknowledged.
  • The romance must not be broken up against the will of the player.
  • Liara must not be killed against the will of the player.

Otherwise I will certainly not support it with my money.

[*]I'd also be happy with that. Romance acknowledgment is a must, IMO.

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IndigoWolfe wrote...

epoch_ wrote...

IndigoWolfe wrote...

epoch_ wrote...

Time for my weekly check in. Has the shadow broker dlc been dated yet?


Not in so far as I can tell.


Well, what are they waiting for?!?




Send your fleet in!


They're waiting for us to stew in our own sickening feelings of helpless anticipation whilst in entire ignorance.


speaking of helpless anticipation whilst in entire ignorance,


Do you guys think we'll see Ash/Kaidan in the shadow broker dlc?

"Lair of the Shadow Broker does, however, contain some *really* cool
stuff we haven't revealed yet so stay tuned for more details as we head
into August. And actually the very coolest part of the DLC (imho) will
be something we absolutely won't reveal in the marketing or PR, to avoid
spoiling it. I think most of you will find it to be our most satisfying
DLC release yet for ME2."


I only ask because so far they've treated the previous LIs incredibly fairly. Not that I'm one of the guys who gets their hopes up that I'll see ash/kaidan again with each DLC. But I think if they're ever going to be in a ME2 dlc, this would be it.

Modifié par epoch_, 06 août 2010 - 03:34 .


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jtav wrote...

IndigoWolfe wrote...

jtav wrote...

Try stuck in the rural US with dial-up.


Oh, well that's definitely a bugger. Have you a desktop, laptop or an Xbox?


Xbox, but also a desktop more than capable of running the game if it came to that.


Well, an alternative is the next time you know you're going to find yourself in a hotel in the immediate future --should they offer Wi-Fi-- get the necessary resources and connect to Live there. It's not the most economic alternative, to be sure, but it's possible.

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More than "acknowledgement"!



Acknowledgement could be:



"Can we talk about us?"

"Not now Shepard."