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[pf17456]

jlb524 wrote...


I don't think Liara will be killed by Nyxeris if you don't do the quest...if so, all those people won't be able to play the DLC.

The Observer quest was meaningless (I think) and may only affect a line or two of DLC dialog.

You do learn during the 'quest' what Liara has done for Shepard at risk to her own life and she does say she'll notify  Shepard if gets any kind of lead on the SB leaving the door open for this upcoming DLC, so I wouldn't say it was meaningless.

[jlb524]

I was thinking it would be meaningless to the DLC. It's worthwhile doing in ME2, as that's the only way Liara will open up to you.

[Worrywort]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Yeah, an extremely important core series character like Liara will not be killed off by failing to accurately resolve an insignificant, skippable sidequest. Especially considering the fact that the development staff have stated that a reason as to why Liara was absent from the ME2 squad was to ensure that she remain alive for ME3.

I guess I never read that. 

[jtav]

I wonder if the Virmire survivor is aware of Liara's work as an information broker and I wonder what they think about it. It also seems Liara's desire to take down the SB, but not her motivation, is widely known on Ilium. I wonder what they think about that as well.

[Worrywort]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Worrywort wrote...

I guess I never read that. 

Ooops, sorry!

Yeah, Chud has confirmed that the reason as to why Ashley, Kaidan and Liara were not squadmates in ME2 was to ensure their survival into ME3, where they will obviously play important story roles and likely regain their squadmate status. Consequently, the surviving Alliance soldier and Liara will be guaranteed to survive the events of ME2, no matter what.

That makes me a lot happier about their cameos, but they were still pretty bad.

[pf17456]

jlb524 wrote...

I was thinking it would be meaningless to the DLC. It's worthwhile doing in ME2, as that's the only way Liara will open up to you.

Pretty much except she leaves the door open for future contact when she says at the end " I'll contact you if I learn anything new" or something to that effect.

Nexyris had bad barriers aka no defence = no match for Liara = Nyxeris coffee

[TMA LIVE]

jtav wrote...

I wonder if the Virmire survivor is aware of Liara's work as an information broker and I wonder what they think about it. It also seems Liara's desire to take down the SB, but not her motivation, is widely known on Ilium. I wonder what they think about that as well.

Well, we can guess, but I bet they'll continue to ignore eachother, nor talk about one another in ME3.

Though I find it very bad no one tried to keep in touch with anyone.

Modifié par TMA LIVE, 08 août 2010 - 11:08 .

[pf17456]

jtav wrote...

I wonder if the Virmire survivor is aware of Liara's work as an information broker and I wonder what they think about it. It also seems Liara's desire to take down the SB, but not her motivation, is widely known on Ilium. I wonder what they think about that as well.

I wonder how the Virmire survivor will react when he/she learns what's in Kasumi's greybox ?  Perhaps it'll provide the motivation necessary to leave the Alliance and rejoin Shepard

[jlb524]

jtav wrote...

I wonder if the Virmire survivor is aware of Liara's work as an information broker and I wonder what they think about it. It also seems Liara's desire to take down the SB, but not her motivation, is widely known on Ilium. I wonder what they think about that as well.

I have wondered the same.

Well..there's no indication that they do know about it, though, their cameo was so short and terrible that even if they did know, it wasn't going to come up. 

It is possible (and likely) that the Alliance does know that Liara is an information broker on Illium, given her former ties to them.  I am sure someone in the Alliance has kept tabs on her over the past 2 years.  They might also know that her target is the Shadow Broker. 

Now, was this information passed to Ashley or Kaidan?  I don't know.  It might not be something they are privy to.

What would they think about it?  I think both would be stunned at first (as most of us were) that Liara has moved away from her books and studies and is now leading a successful Information Broker business.  I do know Kaidan saw Liara as the bookish type, telling Shepard that he prefers more adventurous women to Liara.  I'm sure Ash saw her the same way, though I don't know of anything specific she ever mentions.  They are probably both aware (from some events in ME1) that the Shadow Broker and its agents are bad news, so I think they would support Liara's hunt in spirit, and would be willing to support it by lending their guns or biotics if they didn't have commitments to the Alliance.

[jlb524]

Oh, and why do you say Liara's desire to take on the SB is well know on Illium, jtav?

[jlb524]

I just wonder if the Alliance, as an organization, would support Liara's quest against the SB or not. We do know that Kahoku used the Shadow Broker on his hunt for Cerberus. It may be that they use the SB as an info resource a great deal. They might have mixed feelings about what Liara is trying to accomplish.

[TMA LIVE]

jlb524 wrote...

Oh, and why do you say Liara's desire to take on the SB is well know on Illium, jtav?

It's good advertising:

Voice Over: Shadow Broker got dirt on you? Have an old grudge with Silhouette of Scoops? Then Liara T'soni is right for you!

Cue montage of Liara hard at work in her office.

Modifié par TMA LIVE, 08 août 2010 - 11:24 .

[jlb524]

TMA LIVE wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

Oh, and why do you say Liara's desire to take on the SB is well know on Illium, jtav?

It's good advertising:

Voice Over: Shadow Broker got dirt on you? Have an old grudge with Silhouette of Scoops? Then Liara T'soni is right for you!

Cue montage of Liara hard at work in her office.

That's funny.

[Master Wolf]

jlb524 wrote...

I just wonder if the Alliance, as an organization, would support Liara's quest against the SB or not. We do know that Kahoku used the Shadow Broker on his hunt for Cerberus. It may be that they use the SB as an info resource a great deal. They might have mixed feelings about what Liara is trying to accomplish.

I don't think that the Aliance would want the SB destroyed for what we see the SB is a very usefull political tool so they would want to keep around so IMO they would not suport Liara and besides Joker says that the Aliance didin't like the non humans in Shepard team. I belive that Liara might be reciving some help from cerberus thought.

[jtav]

jlb524 wrote...

Oh, and why do you say Liara's desire to take on the SB is well know on Illium, jtav?

Because I mixed up the concierage and Nyxeris and thought the concierage was the one who mentioned Liara could have even more influence if she wasn't so focused on personal goals. Sorry.

[jlb524]

jtav wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

Oh, and why do you say Liara's desire to take on the SB is well know on Illium, jtav?

Because I mixed up the concierage and Nyxeris and thought the concierage was the one who mentioned Liara could have even more influence if she wasn't so focused on personal goals. Sorry.

Ah, OK...I see!

[jlb524]

Master Wolf wrote...

I don't think that the Aliance would want the SB destroyed for what we see the SB is a very usefull political tool so they would want to keep around so IMO they would not suport Liara and besides Joker says that the Aliance didin't like the non humans in Shepard team. I belive that Liara might be reciving some help from cerberus thought.

Yeah, interestingly enough, it seems Cerberus is more open to non-human aid than the Alliance is.  Of course, Cerberus' end goal is more detrimental to non-humans that the Alliance's is. 

Liara might be receiving aid from Cerberus, but then, why would TIM tell Shepard that she is working for the SB and cannot be trusted?

[kraidy1117]

jlb524 wrote...

Master Wolf wrote...

I don't think that the Aliance would want the SB destroyed for what we see the SB is a very usefull political tool so they would want to keep around so IMO they would not suport Liara and besides Joker says that the Aliance didin't like the non humans in Shepard team. I belive that Liara might be reciving some help from cerberus thought.

Yeah, interestingly enough, it seems Cerberus is more open to non-human aid than the Alliance is.  Of course, Cerberus' end goal is more detrimental to non-humans that the Alliance's is. 

Liara might be receiving aid from Cerberus, but then, why would TIM tell Shepard that she is working for the SB and cannot be trusted?

Well look at Retribution. TIM asked for Aria's help, it does show that while TIM wants humanity to be powerful, he knows that sometimes he will need help from thje aliens.

Also about Liara andt he trust thing, I always thought it was TIM messing atound with Shepards head.

[Master Wolf]

jlb524 wrote...

Yeah, interestingly enough, it seems Cerberus is more open to non-human aid than the Alliance is.  Of course, Cerberus' end goal is more detrimental to non-humans that the Alliance's is. 

Liara might be receiving aid from Cerberus, but then, why would TIM tell Shepard that she is working for the SB and cannot be trusted?

I think if TIM is helping Liara with her hunt for the SB one more reason to lie to Shepard because if Shepard convince Liara to join him all the effort to hunt the SB will  be for nothing and he already has one team for Shepard so TIM don't  want Liara on the team because he want her to hunt the SB and he would also not want that Shepard got distracted from his misson or even help Liara in her misson and leave his misson while he help Liara.