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[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

IndigoWolfe wrote...

They'd better have something soon. My Evil!Liara muse is starting to come back, and I know how little people here like it when that happens.

I don't mind talking about Evil!Liara.

Me <3 Evil!Liara!

Damn, we need some info fast.

[Dinkamus_Littlelog]

Lol, Liara and evil are two things that dont mix in my books.



All I want is the return to the kind of confidence she had during the ME1 romance. It would be great to see something like the "locker room scene" in ME3. It would be great to know that after everything that has happened, Shepard can still be vulnerable, and Liara is able to be supportive still after everything shes been through, and I imagine at that stage the galaxy will have been through too.



Of course, that hinges on her getting a squadmate role, which is what it always comes back to.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Dinkamus_Littlelog wrote...

Lol, Liara and evil are two things that dont mix in my books.

All I want is the return to the kind of confidence she had during the ME1 romance. It would be great to see something like the "locker room scene" in ME3. It would be great to know that after everything that has happened, Shepard can still be vulnerable, and Liara is able to be supportive still after everything shes been through, and I imagine at that stage the galaxy will have been through too.

Of course, that hinges on her getting a squadmate role, which is what it always comes back to.

Yeah, I hate how Shepard is an emotional brick throughout ME1 and 2! But what makes ME1 so better is the fact that actuelly got a scene where we are reminded that Shepard is actuelly a character and not just some vessel in which we experience the story through. The closest ME2 gets is with the picture scene (which is just another reason why I think ME1 LI's are far supirioer).

"EDIT" FYI Dink, Evil and Liara can be perfectly mixed.

Just watch!

Modifié par Lizardviking, 14 août 2010 - 09:57 .

[bjdbwea]

Lizardviking wrote...

Yeah, I hate how Shepard is an emotional brick throughout ME1 and 2! But what makes ME1 so better is the fact that actuelly got a scene where we are reminded that Shepard is actuelly a character and not just some vessel in which we experience the story through. The closest ME2 gets is with the picture scene (which is just another reason why I think ME1 LI's are far supirioer).

What about "I Remember Me"? So sad, but very well written. There are a few other occasions in ME 1, but almost none in ME 2.

Modifié par bjdbwea, 14 août 2010 - 10:14 .

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

bjdbwea wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

Yeah, I hate how Shepard is an emotional brick throughout ME1 and 2! But what makes ME1 so better is the fact that actuelly got a scene where we are reminded that Shepard is actuelly a character and not just some vessel in which we experience the story through. The closest ME2 gets is with the picture scene (which is just another reason why I think ME1 LI's are far supirioer).

What about "I Remember Me"? So sad, but very well written. There are a few other occasions in ME 1, but almost none in ME 2.

AFAIK Shepard was not in focus in that scene, the slave girl was. Whereas in the locker scene, it's Shepard who is down and out and where the LI walks in to encourage Shepard not to give up the fight.

Another thing that should be considered is that Maleshep feels more "alive" in ME2 due to vastly improved voice acting from Mark Meer. problem is, there is no scene that focus on Shepard (unlike ME1) meaning that Shepard might not sound like brick, but he still is one.

[bjdbwea]

Well, Shepard could definitely be "a character and not just some vessel in which we experience the story through" in that scene in ME 1, and I thought that was what you were talking about.

In ME 2, there's only Kelly who seems to actually care about Shepard, and Shepard can be a human for once when talking to her. Too bad they didn't properly finish that romance, it had the most potential.

Modifié par bjdbwea, 14 août 2010 - 10:29 .

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

bjdbwea wrote...

Well, Shepard could definitely be "a character and not just some vessel in which we experience the story through" in that scene in ME 1, and I thought that was what you were talking about.

In ME 2, there's only Kelly who seems to actually care about Shepard, and Shepard can be a human for once when talking to her. Too bad they didn't properly finish that romance, it had the most potential.

All Bioware needed to do was to have a scene where Kelly walks up to Shepard and simply say that she feel something is bothering him. All the players who wants Shepard to be stoic could just pick a option where Shepard says he's fine, while players that wants Shepard to show some emotion could continue the scene.

Another great oppurtunity would to have a scene that plays out when you first visist your private quaters. You could Shepard standing in front of the mirror, studying his scars. You could then choose diffrent reactions.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Hello Liara thread!

I'm back!

Also I think that would have been a great idea Lizardviking.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Hello Liara thread!
I'm back!
Also I think that would have been a great idea Lizardviking.

No offence, but I need to ask you.

Are you the same person who also had the account named "Darth Cheesecake"?

[bjdbwea]

Lizardviking wrote...

All Bioware needed to do was to have a scene where Kelly walks up to Shepard and simply say that she feel something is bothering him. All the players who wants Shepard to be stoic could just pick a option where Shepard says he's fine, while players that wants Shepard to show some emotion could continue the scene.

There's something a bit like it. Did you know Shepard can ask Kelly for a hug? Everyone who prefer their Shepard to be the stone-cold action! dude, can of course just brush her off as well. But it's one of the very few moments in ME 2 where we even get the chance to let Shepard express some feelings or act like a human.

Modifié par bjdbwea, 14 août 2010 - 10:43 .

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

bjdbwea wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

All Bioware needed to do was to have a scene where Kelly walks up to Shepard and simply say that she feel something is bothering him. All the players who wants Shepard to be stoic could just pick a option where Shepard says he's fine, while players that wants Shepard to show some emotion could continue the scene.

There's something a bit like it. Did you know Shepard can ask Kelly for a hug? Everyone who prefer their Shepard to be the stone-cold action! dude, can of course just brush her off as well. But it's one of the very few moments in ME 2 where we even get the chance to let Shepard express some feelings or act like a human.

Yeah I know. I don't romance Kelly (she's got the itch afterall) but I always ask her for a hug after completing the collector vessel!

But still I think having a scene with Kelly plus a "mirror scene" could have been great and make a strong improvent over what we got in ME1.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Lizardviking wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Hello Liara thread!
I'm back!
Also I think that would have been a great idea Lizardviking.

No offence, but I need to ask you.

Are you the same person who also had the account named "Darth Cheesecake"?

Well yeah.
Why?
I got mad at Priestly called him out.
Cut my old account
Revamped it with a new name.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Hello Liara thread!
I'm back!
Also I think that would have been a great idea Lizardviking.

No offence, but I need to ask you.

Are you the same person who also had the account named "Darth Cheesecake"?

Well yeah.
Why?
I got mad at Priestly called him out.
Cut my old account
Revamped it with a new name.

Ah lol. Good! I just had to be sure.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Lizardviking wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Hello Liara thread!
I'm back!
Also I think that would have been a great idea Lizardviking.

No offence, but I need to ask you.

Are you the same person who also had the account named "Darth Cheesecake"?

Well yeah.
Why?
I got mad at Priestly called him out.
Cut my old account
Revamped it with a new name.

Ah lol. Good! I just had to be sure.

*laughs* yeah I got mad at Priestly's caviler attitude so I told him what I thought.
One of my finer moments.
Anyway Liara.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Alright I'll come back in a few hours when more people are on.

Bye till then.

[TMA LIVE]

bjdbwea wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

All Bioware needed to do was to have a scene where Kelly walks up to Shepard and simply say that she feel something is bothering him. All the players who wants Shepard to be stoic could just pick a option where Shepard says he's fine, while players that wants Shepard to show some emotion could continue the scene.

There's something a bit like it. Did you know Shepard can ask Kelly for a hug? Everyone who prefer their Shepard to be the stone-cold action! dude, can of course just brush her off as well. But it's one of the very few moments in ME 2 where we even get the chance to let Shepard express some feelings or act like a human.

But doesn't that lead to the Kelly romance?

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

TMA LIVE wrote...

bjdbwea wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

All Bioware needed to do was to have a scene where Kelly walks up to Shepard and simply say that she feel something is bothering him. All the players who wants Shepard to be stoic could just pick a option where Shepard says he's fine, while players that wants Shepard to show some emotion could continue the scene.

There's something a bit like it. Did you know Shepard can ask Kelly for a hug? Everyone who prefer their Shepard to be the stone-cold action! dude, can of course just brush her off as well. But it's one of the very few moments in ME 2 where we even get the chance to let Shepard express some feelings or act like a human.

But doesn't that lead to the Kelly romance?

No. You can still get the hug as long as you talk with her, but don't flirt. Basicly when she says the "I trust you completely " just pick the middle option where you are friendly but don't flirt with her.

[JamieCOTC]

Lizardviking wrote...

bjdbwea wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

Yeah, I hate how Shepard is an emotional brick throughout ME1 and 2! But what makes ME1 so better is the fact that actuelly got a scene where we are reminded that Shepard is actuelly a character and not just some vessel in which we experience the story through. The closest ME2 gets is with the picture scene (which is just another reason why I think ME1 LI's are far supirioer).

What about "I Remember Me"? So sad, but very well written. There are a few other occasions in ME 1, but almost none in ME 2.

AFAIK Shepard was not in focus in that scene, the slave girl was. Whereas in the locker scene, it's Shepard who is down and out and where the LI walks in to encourage Shepard not to give up the fight.

Another thing that should be considered is that Maleshep feels more "alive" in ME2 due to vastly improved voice acting from Mark Meer. problem is, there is no scene that focus on Shepard (unlike ME1) meaning that Shepard might not sound like brick, but he still is one.

She was, but depending on how you play that scene you get a spec of insight into Shep's past.  IIRC, Shep says that s/he was broken too. 

[bjdbwea]

TMA LIVE wrote...

But doesn't that lead to the Kelly romance?

No. It leads to Kelly being a piece of decoration and amusement after the final mission. <_<

[kraidy1117]

bjdbwea wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

Yeah, I hate how Shepard is an emotional brick throughout ME1 and 2! But what makes ME1 so better is the fact that actuelly got a scene where we are reminded that Shepard is actuelly a character and not just some vessel in which we experience the story through. The closest ME2 gets is with the picture scene (which is just another reason why I think ME1 LI's are far supirioer).

What about "I Remember Me"? So sad, but very well written. There are a few other occasions in ME 1, but almost none in ME 2.

lolwut.

[Mighty_BOB_cnc]

Speaking of "accidental romances" I really don't see how that can happen. You just have to make sure not to choose the wrong dialog option. Just the other day I went all the way through Garrus' "flexibility" conversation and got Thane to call me Siha with my Liara-faithful Shep. No downturned picture in my cabin, no trigger for the paramour achievement.



Take Garrus' conversation for example. You can safely tell him "we could ease stress together" with him to work out tension, but then BioWare gives you an option that lets you stay neutral. Just don't touch the "That's not what I meant" option when he responds "I, uh, didn't think you'd feel like sparring Commander." BioWare always gives you an option to just stay buddies as far as I know. I may not have gone completely into Jacob's dialogue.

[kraidy1117]

Mighty_BOB_cnc wrote...

Speaking of "accidental romances" I really don't see how that can happen. You just have to make sure not to choose the wrong dialog option. Just the other day I went all the way through Garrus' "flexibility" conversation and got Thane to call me Siha with my Liara-faithful Shep. No downturned picture in my cabin, no trigger for the paramour achievement.

Take Garrus' conversation for example. You can safely tell him "we could ease stress together" with him to work out tension, but then BioWare gives you an option that lets you stay neutral. Just don't touch the "That's not what I meant" option when he responds "I, uh, didn't think you'd feel like sparring Commander." BioWare always gives you an option to just stay buddies as far as I know. I may not have gone completely into Jacob's dialogue.

Jack, Ash and Kai are examples of this. If you are nice to them, you run risk of getting into a romance with them.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Goodnight! I'm loggin off now.

[Nightwriter]

kraidy changed his avatar.

*grumbles about people changing their avatar all the time*

[xxprokillazxx]

i cant wait for the dlc i hope it comes out in september i want to see liara again.