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[FiveThreeTen]

Dinkamus_Littlelog wrote...

FiveThreeTen wrote...

By biggest fear is that if ME1 is not released for PS3, it means that some of the decisions from the first game won't have an impact in ME3, unless they make some exclusive content that PS3 owners won't be able to see .

They arent going to have much of an impact anyway, even without a PS3 port being made. They made it clear in ME2 that they were not above sacrificing content to make sure the game is as noob friendly as possible.

They have already said that each game in the "trilogy" is "stand alone" and that the effects of choices only alter the "tone" of the game, so expect more crappy, easily dismissed effects to your choices I would say.

I'm not blaming the PS3 port in itself ;)But you're right . Bioware did a good job proving me that my choices didn't really mattered with Me2 .

[Dinkamus_Littlelog]

Anyways, Im gonna go find something else to do. I cant be bothered right now with the PS3 port thread or the Liara DLC thread. I dont expect theyll hear that much there from the devs, and certain posters who usually post in groups have turned up there giving the place a rather "poisonous" atmosphere I think.

Modifié par Dinkamus_Littlelog, 17 août 2010 - 03:42 .

[Dinkamus_Littlelog]

Oh and folks might wanna check Christina Normans twitter page for where this port is being developed.

[Fiannawolf]

So probably all plat release for ME3. or closely staggered anyways.

[Marcin K]

gotta go here -cya all tomorrow

[JamieCOTC]

LotSB possible release next Tuesday

Ashii6 wrote...

Polish site showed the date of the DLC gry-online
Here: click
World premiere August 24 ( sierpień 24 )

August 24, 2010 (world premiere)
currently no plans to release (release date in Poland)
August 24, 2010 (release date in USA)

Lair of the Shadow Broker is an extension to the created by production
studios Bioware RPG Mass Effect, headed the second In addition to a new
adventure, you can add to the team to join one of the well-known
characters from the first part of the cycle.

At the beginning of
the basic version of Mass Effect 2 Commander Shepard lost his life
during the attack on the ship Normandie. One of his closest girlfriends -
Liar T'Soni - then fought a fierce battle  to recover the body of his
commander at the hands of a merchant of  Shadows (Shadow called Broker).
Nobody knows exactly who this individual. His real name, appearance,
and even race, remain a mystery. Known, however, what it does - trade
information. Shadow Broker is in their profession an extremely competent
and always makes sure that information is not sold gave one party an
advantage so  significant that it is possible to destroy competition. In
the end, the more warring factions, the more opportunity to do good
business. Its ability to confer Liarze no small problem, but finally,
after many hardships, she managed to recover the body of Shepard. Now
that our hero was resurrected, it's time for revenge. In addition to
joining forces with Liar T'Soni and together they will
bring to the final confrontation with the Merchants of Shadows.

Lair
of the Shadow Broker, offering a new adventure that can play both
during the main campaign Mass Effect 2, and after its finale. An added
attraction is the possibility to join the team on this single mission
Liary T'Soni - in the first part it was a member of the Shepard, while
the other served as a role only niezależnej.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

JamieCOTC wrote...

LotSB possible release next Tuesday

Ashii6 wrote...

Polish site showed the date of the DLC gry-online
Here: click
World premiere August 24 ( sierpień 24 )

August 24, 2010 (world premiere)
currently no plans to release (release date in Poland)
August 24, 2010 (release date in USA)

Lair of the Shadow Broker is an extension to the created by production
studios Bioware RPG Mass Effect, headed the second In addition to a new
adventure, you can add to the team to join one of the well-known
characters from the first part of the cycle.

At the beginning of
the basic version of Mass Effect 2 Commander Shepard lost his life
during the attack on the ship Normandie. One of his closest girlfriends -
Liar T'Soni - then fought a fierce battle  to recover the body of his
commander at the hands of a merchant of  Shadows (Shadow called Broker).
Nobody knows exactly who this individual. His real name, appearance,
and even race, remain a mystery. Known, however, what it does - trade
information. Shadow Broker is in their profession an extremely competent
and always makes sure that information is not sold gave one party an
advantage so  significant that it is possible to destroy competition. In
the end, the more warring factions, the more opportunity to do good
business. Its ability to confer Liarze no small problem, but finally,
after many hardships, she managed to recover the body of Shepard. Now
that our hero was resurrected, it's time for revenge. In addition to
joining forces with Liar T'Soni and together they will
bring to the final confrontation with the Merchants of Shadows.

Lair
of the Shadow Broker, offering a new adventure that can play both
during the main campaign Mass Effect 2, and after its finale. An added
attraction is the possibility to join the team on this single mission
Liary T'Soni - in the first part it was a member of the Shepard, while
the other served as a role only niezależnej.

So it's not post-suicide mission?

****.

Anyway: Let's hope that the ME2 port doesn't compromise or reduce the effect of our ME1 choices.

[JamieCOTC]

JamieCOTC wrote...

LotSB possible release next Tuesday

Ashii6 wrote...

Polish site showed the date of the DLC gry-online
Here: click
World premiere August 24 ( sierpień 24 )

August 24, 2010 (world premiere)
currently no plans to release (release date in Poland)
August 24, 2010 (release date in USA)

Lair of the Shadow Broker is an extension to the created by production
studios Bioware RPG Mass Effect, headed the second In addition to a new
adventure, you can add to the team to join one of the well-known
characters from the first part of the cycle.

At the beginning of
the basic version of Mass Effect 2 Commander Shepard lost his life
during the attack on the ship Normandie. One of his closest girlfriends -
Liar T'Soni - then fought a fierce battle  to recover the body of his
commander at the hands of a merchant of  Shadows (Shadow called Broker).
Nobody knows exactly who this individual. His real name, appearance,
and even race, remain a mystery. Known, however, what it does - trade
information. Shadow Broker is in their profession an extremely competent
and always makes sure that information is not sold gave one party an
advantage so  significant that it is possible to destroy competition. In
the end, the more warring factions, the more opportunity to do good
business. Its ability to confer Liarze no small problem, but finally,
after many hardships, she managed to recover the body of Shepard. Now
that our hero was resurrected, it's time for revenge. In addition to
joining forces with Liar T'Soni and together they will
bring to the final confrontation with the Merchants of Shadows.

Lair
of the Shadow Broker, offering a new adventure that can play both
during the main campaign Mass Effect 2, and after its finale. An added
attraction is the possibility to join the team on this single mission
Liary T'Soni - in the first part it was a member of the Shepard, while
the other served as a role only niezależnej.

NEVERMIND

Chris Priestly wrote...

This date is a rumor and you should all take it as such. As in, do not get your hopes up for it on that date. Just sayin'



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[TMA LIVE]

JamieCOTC wrote...

JamieCOTC wrote...

LotSB possible release next Tuesday

Ashii6 wrote...

Polish site showed the date of the DLC gry-online
Here: click
World premiere August 24 ( sierpień 24 )

August 24, 2010 (world premiere)
currently no plans to release (release date in Poland)
August 24, 2010 (release date in USA)

Lair of the Shadow Broker is an extension to the created by production
studios Bioware RPG Mass Effect, headed the second In addition to a new
adventure, you can add to the team to join one of the well-known
characters from the first part of the cycle.

At the beginning of
the basic version of Mass Effect 2 Commander Shepard lost his life
during the attack on the ship Normandie. One of his closest girlfriends -
Liar T'Soni - then fought a fierce battle  to recover the body of his
commander at the hands of a merchant of  Shadows (Shadow called Broker).
Nobody knows exactly who this individual. His real name, appearance,
and even race, remain a mystery. Known, however, what it does - trade
information. Shadow Broker is in their profession an extremely competent
and always makes sure that information is not sold gave one party an
advantage so  significant that it is possible to destroy competition. In
the end, the more warring factions, the more opportunity to do good
business. Its ability to confer Liarze no small problem, but finally,
after many hardships, she managed to recover the body of Shepard. Now
that our hero was resurrected, it's time for revenge. In addition to
joining forces with Liar T'Soni and together they will
bring to the final confrontation with the Merchants of Shadows.

Lair
of the Shadow Broker, offering a new adventure that can play both
during the main campaign Mass Effect 2, and after its finale. An added
attraction is the possibility to join the team on this single mission
Liary T'Soni - in the first part it was a member of the Shepard, while
the other served as a role only niezależnej.

NEVERMIND

Chris Priestly wrote...

This date is a rumor and you should all take it as such. As in, do not get your hopes up for it on that date. Just sayin'



[smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/devil.png[/smilie]

Well, he didn't say no, so that says a lot. If it wasn't true, you'd simply say it.

[WilliamShatner]

Priestley said ME2 PS3 was only a "rumor" mere hours before it was announced. He has been proven to mislead and flatout lie.

[Dinkamus_Littlelog]

Yeah, its best to treat Priestlys word just as dubiously as the article itself really. He said a similar thing about the PS3 crap as has been pointed out.



Still, lets hope this DLC is a truly great piece of work, because I need it right now. My faith in Bioware is ziltch, so I have my expectations as open as possible. It could be a great plotline that redeems the turd that is ME2, or it could be a stinking pile of crap that lets me know early not to bother with ME3, as playing a completely different game altogether would be about as relevant to my ME1 playthough as ME3 might be, but probably offering better gameplay to boot.

[Stormy-B]

Lizardviking wrote...

I wonder what kind of start ME3 will have? Maybe it involves Shepard and the entire ME2 crew in a shuttle, then the shuttle crashes. Everyone dies execpt Shepard who is mortally wounded, and must be rebuilt.

Thoughts?

I've got a theory: Whatever choices you made in ME2, Cerberus will hunt you down (If you gave them the base, TIM thinks he won't need you and that you'll become a liability, if you didn't, well it's kind of obvious why then) Since Cerberus of course have a bunch of hidden gizmos on the Normandy they can track it, approach it without being spotted and disable it without a problem. Once they're in control they kill off the entire crew and team, preferably by lining them up and executing them infront of you (I dare you BW, I double-dare you!) In the last possible moment, Liara (who has found about the attack since she became the new SB) sweeps in with her asari commandos and saves you, with your whole team dead, after patching you up, she understands that you a) Want revenge Need to keep working to stop the reapers. She gives you her best asari commando and her best Salarian tech expert, this is the beginning of the new team and the adventure sets off.

This theory of mine involves Liara taking over the role of primary Info Broker in the galaxy and is your new boss, the Virmire survivor has since become a Spectre (possibly) and will have an enormous role, maybe as hunting you in the beginning, since TIM has planted evidence that you are a terrorist etc etc.

If you keep the Normandy, the initial attack wouldn't involve obliterating the crew, but to not have enormous problems with team balance and bringing in possibly unneccessary VA's I think they need to kill off the whole team, besides, imagine this: As your LI from ME2 (if you had one) is about to die, they look you in the eye, says "I love you!" or something else catchy (Jacob: "Is this the priize we pay for being the good guys?" Garrus: "Just like old times huh, Shepard?") before they get shot in the back of the head. Now THAT would set the tone for a darker ME3.

No, I'm not evil, wait... Scratch that, I am 

[Dinkamus_Littlelog]

Stormy-B wrote...

 In the last possible moment, Liara (who has found about the attack since she became the new SB) sweeps in with her asari commandos and saves you

Can I just ask because Ive seen this a number of times, but where the hell do people think Liara has a team of asari commandos?

You do know shes just mimicking Benezia when she threatens the client, and is merely bluffing right (as Benezia did have commandos being a matriarch with many followers)?

I thought one of the main points of Liaras role is how she is isolated from anyone she can trust, and is going after the Shadow Broker on her own.

Modifié par Dinkamus_Littlelog, 17 août 2010 - 09:35 .

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Dinkamus_Littlelog wrote...

Stormy-B wrote...

 In the last possible moment, Liara (who has found about the attack since she became the new SB) sweeps in with her asari commandos and saves you

Can I just ask because Ive seen this a number of times, but where the hell do people think Liara has a team of asari commandos?

You do know shes just mimicking Benezia when she threatens the client, and is merely bluffing right (as Benezia did have commandos being a matriarch with many followers)?

I thought one of the main points of Liaras role is how she is isolated from anyone she can trust, and is going after the Shadow Broker on her own.

I always imagined she had a couple of henchmen, but nothing impressive. She even says it her self that she have some "hired muscle" when you first meet her.

[jtav]

As someone who loves the ME2 team, that beginning would ****** me off. I don't mind them getting a cameo (much) but I'm invested in some of them getting a happy ending.

[Stormy-B]

Dinkamus_Littlelog wrote...

Stormy-B wrote...

 In the last possible moment, Liara (who has found about the attack since she became the new SB) sweeps in with her asari commandos and saves you

Can I just ask because Ive seen this a number of times, but where the hell do people think Liara has a team of asari commandos?

You do know shes just mimicing Benezia when she communicates to the guy and is bluffing right (as Benezia did have commandos being a matriarch with many followers)?

I thought one of the main points of Liaras role is how she is isolated from anyone she can trust, and is going after the Shadow Broker on her own.

She does say however that she has some "hired muscle" and would it be that weird if that would be a small team of asari commandos? Possibly even commandos previously working for Benezia? Some of those who chose not to follow her for example. Besides, how do you know she was bluffing? It was just something for the old ME1 players to recognize and go "Whoa! What's going on with Liara?"

[Dinkamus_Littlelog]

jtav wrote...

As someone who loves the ME2 team, that beginning would ****** me off. I don't mind them getting a cameo (much) but I'm invested in some of them getting a happy ending.

Its the concluding chapter. I dont give a toss about the ME2 squad really (even though I quite like a couple of them), but anything less than a mostly happy ending for all of them given their practically inevitable and necessary cameo roles would be insulting.

Mind you, thats probably where the "effects of your choices" come in. If they are still alive, certain actions you made determine their cameos "tone". Things like having them survive but not loyal, or having them loyal, best outcome for their missions if it offered multiple outcomes, and romanced or not etc.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

jtav wrote...

As someone who loves the ME2 team, that beginning would ****** me off. I don't mind them getting a cameo (much) but I'm invested in some of them getting a happy ending.

Some ME2 squadmates are gonna return (or I think atleast). But I also think a good chunk are gonna get cameo'd. Thane is proberly dead by Kepral syndrome.

[Stormy-B]

jtav wrote...

As someone who loves the ME2 team, that beginning would ****** me off. I don't mind them getting a cameo (much) but I'm invested in some of them getting a happy ending.

Yeah, the likeliness that BW would do something like that is highly unlikely anyway. If this would happen I would however sit there with a smirk thinking of what's going through the heads of the more rabid Cerberusfans

Edit: Most likely, some of the ME2 crew will have cameos, or big roles (Tali as admiral among the Quarians, Grunt as Wrex's right hand, Garrus as a Spectre possibly)

Modifié par Stormy-B, 17 août 2010 - 09:48 .

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Stormy-B wrote...

jtav wrote...

As someone who loves the ME2 team, that beginning would ****** me off. I don't mind them getting a cameo (much) but I'm invested in some of them getting a happy ending.

Yeah, the likeliness that BW would do something like that is highly unlikely anyway. If this would happen I would however sit there with a smirk thinking of what's going through the heads of the more rabid Cerberusfans

I would hate that Cerberus betrays you no matter what in ME3. If only because it would completely undermine my renegade Shepard. It's already bad enough that one of my character's purpose for being created was completely destroyed due to ME2's ****ty way of handlling the SS/Cerberus relationship. So no, I don't Cerberus to betray you. If you give them the base atleast.

[fongiel24]

Stormy-B wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

I wonder what kind of start ME3 will have? Maybe it involves Shepard and the entire ME2 crew in a shuttle, then the shuttle crashes. Everyone dies execpt Shepard who is mortally wounded, and must be rebuilt.

Thoughts?

I've got a theory: Whatever choices you made in ME2, Cerberus will hunt you down (If you gave them the base, TIM thinks he won't need you and that you'll become a liability, if you didn't, well it's kind of obvious why then) Since Cerberus of course have a bunch of hidden gizmos on the Normandy they can track it, approach it without being spotted and disable it without a problem. Once they're in control they kill off the entire crew and team, preferably by lining them up and executing them infront of you (I dare you BW, I double-dare you!) In the last possible moment, Liara (who has found about the attack since she became the new SB) sweeps in with her asari commandos and saves you, with your whole team dead, after patching you up, she understands that you a) Want revenge Need to keep working to stop the reapers. She gives you her best asari commando and her best Salarian tech expert, this is the beginning of the new team and the adventure sets off.

This theory of mine involves Liara taking over the role of primary Info Broker in the galaxy and is your new boss, the Virmire survivor has since become a Spectre (possibly) and will have an enormous role, maybe as hunting you in the beginning, since TIM has planted evidence that you are a terrorist etc etc.

If you keep the Normandy, the initial attack wouldn't involve obliterating the crew, but to not have enormous problems with team balance and bringing in possibly unneccessary VA's I think they need to kill off the whole team, besides, imagine this: As your LI from ME2 (if you had one) is about to die, they look you in the eye, says "I love you!" or something else catchy (Jacob: "Is this the priize we pay for being the good guys?" Garrus: "Just like old times huh, Shepard?") before they get shot in the back of the head. Now THAT would set the tone for a darker ME3.

No, I'm not evil, wait... Scratch that, I am 

This is an interesting idea, but would also require some suspension of belief as it would seem very OOC for many of your companions to just lay down their weapons and take a bullet to the back of the skull. Can you really see Jack surrendering peacefully to anyone, much less Cerberus? If a bunch of Cerberus commandos showed up on the Normandy uninvited, Grunt would likely just see that as Christmas coming early. Many of your companions have made a career of prevailing against overwhelming odds. They might not win in your scenario, but they're not going to go quietly and Cerberus is going to be shipping a lot of its personnel off the Normandy in bodybags.

[Dinkamus_Littlelog]

Stormy-B wrote...

She does say however that she has some "hired muscle" and would it be that weird if that would be a small team of asari commandos? Possibly even commandos previously working for Benezia? Some of those who chose not to follow her for example. Besides, how do you know she was bluffing? It was just something for the old ME1 players to recognize and go "Whoa! What's going on with Liara?"

No, while its true that she mentions hired muscle, I think it would be just another woefully OOC thing for Liara to have asari commandos working for her. Its the kind of "hired muscle" that wouldnt work well for tracking down the SB.

And I know she was bluffing because she was trying to simply intimidate the guy. Its no less unlikely and untruthful as her "flaying unpaying customers alive with her mind". Shes trying to work with what she has. She gets some cred from helping Shepard take down Saren, but still has to borrow lines from her mother because shes not used to intimidating people.

Im pretty sure this DLC will further emphasise the fact that Liara works mostly on her own. I would be extremely shocked, not to mention annoyed by the ridiculousness of it all if she manages to call on the aid of some random asari commandos in this DLC.

[Stormy-B]

Lizardviking wrote...

Stormy-B wrote...

jtav wrote...

As someone who loves the ME2 team, that beginning would ****** me off. I don't mind them getting a cameo (much) but I'm invested in some of them getting a happy ending.

Yeah, the likeliness that BW would do something like that is highly unlikely anyway. If this would happen I would however sit there with a smirk thinking of what's going through the heads of the more rabid Cerberusfans

I would hate that Cerberus betrays you no matter what in ME3. If only because it would completely undermine my renegade Shepard. It's already bad enough that one of my character's purpose for being created was completely destroyed due to ME2's ****ty way of handlling the SS/Cerberus relationship. So no, I don't Cerberus to betray you. If you give them the base atleast.

Not necessarily undermining, just throwing your shep in a very different situation but with an enormous need for vengeance

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Stormy-B wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

Stormy-B wrote...

jtav wrote...

As someone who loves the ME2 team, that beginning would ****** me off. I don't mind them getting a cameo (much) but I'm invested in some of them getting a happy ending.

Yeah, the likeliness that BW would do something like that is highly unlikely anyway. If this would happen I would however sit there with a smirk thinking of what's going through the heads of the more rabid Cerberusfans

I would hate that Cerberus betrays you no matter what in ME3. If only because it would completely undermine my renegade Shepard. It's already bad enough that one of my character's purpose for being created was completely destroyed due to ME2's ****ty way of handlling the SS/Cerberus relationship. So no, I don't Cerberus to betray you. If you give them the base atleast.

Not necessarily undermining, just throwing your shep in a very different situation but with an enormous need for vengeance

No. It's undermining. Just like having SS work for Cerberus with almost zero objection.

[IndigoWolfe]

Bioware are going to have to give the LOTSB availability more thought than just being available once you get the Normandy. That just wouldn't work.

Perhaps it becomes available after you complete all the Illium missions? Or just Liara's sidequests? Or after the SM regardless of whether you helped Liara or not.