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It's in the new release of the comic they're selling right now.
Oh, the trade paperback version? Yeah...I didn't get that.
It's a version that has all of them.
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Posté 26 août 2010 - 07:25
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It's a version that has all of them.
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#47078
Posté 26 août 2010 - 07:31
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This is another one.
That's more like it.
Too bad she's all berserker in in it.
#47079
Posté 26 août 2010 - 07:34
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Thanks TMA...I bought them all separately.
What issues?
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I suppose that's possible, though I still have issues with the biological reprocussions of a species whose members cannot share genetic material.
What issues?
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Lizardviking wrote...
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This is another one.
That's more like it.
Too bad she's all berserker in in it.
No, that's not the final. The final I didn't post yet.
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Posté 26 août 2010 - 07:40
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jlb524 wrote...
Thanks TMA...I bought them all separately.Yeled wrote...
I suppose that's possible, though I still have issues with the biological reprocussions of a species whose members cannot share genetic material.
What issues?
Probably means Asari were once just 10 billions versions of 100 different asari. Meaning thousands of the same faces walking the streets, because nothing is gained.
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Posté 26 août 2010 - 07:43
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TMA LIVE wrote...
Probably means Asari were once just 10 billions versions of 100 different asari. Meaning thousands of the same faces walking the streets, because nothing is gained.
Hmm...I just think the randomization of the second set of dna would be different each time an asari melds with a partner, so no asari would be identical.
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Posté 26 août 2010 - 07:49
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jlb524 wrote...
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Probably means Asari were once just 10 billions versions of 100 different asari. Meaning thousands of the same faces walking the streets, because nothing is gained.
Hmm...I just think the randomization of the second set of dna would be different each time an asari melds with a partner, so no asari would be identical.
That would be true, but this is Asari, Asari. Thus, nothing is change. The father simply is used to activate the pregnancy, since I doubt Asari can just be pregnant when they feel like it. Otherwise, there wouldn't be fathers. They need a partner, but if the partner isn't a different species, then it's just blue girl, with your face (aka, Samara and Morinth, Liara and her mother, etc).
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[quote]TMA LIVE wrote...
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No, that's not the final. The final I didn't post yet.
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That's quite a diffrent pose (not that I protest!
). But I can't for the life of me remember where she does that, and I don't want to. As that would mean digging through my memories of reading Redemption.
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No, that's not the final. The final I didn't post yet.
[/quote]That's quite a diffrent pose (not that I protest!
). But I can't for the life of me remember where she does that, and I don't want to. As that would mean digging through my memories of reading Redemption.
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Posté 26 août 2010 - 07:54
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TMA LIVE wrote...
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That would be true, but this is Asari, Asari. Thus, nothing is change. The father simply is used to activate the pregnancy, since I doubt Asari can just be pregnant when they feel like it. Otherwise, there wouldn't be fathers. They need a partner, but if the partner isn't a different species, then it's just blue girl, with your face (aka, Samara and Morinth, Liara and her mother, etc).[/quote]
I never thought Liara looked anything like her mother
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That would be true, but this is Asari, Asari. Thus, nothing is change. The father simply is used to activate the pregnancy, since I doubt Asari can just be pregnant when they feel like it. Otherwise, there wouldn't be fathers. They need a partner, but if the partner isn't a different species, then it's just blue girl, with your face (aka, Samara and Morinth, Liara and her mother, etc).[/quote]
I never thought Liara looked anything like her mother
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Posté 26 août 2010 - 07:58
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TMA LIVE wrote...
That would be true, but this is Asari, Asari. Thus, nothing is change. The father simply is used to activate the pregnancy, since I doubt Asari can just be pregnant when they feel like it. Otherwise, there wouldn't be fathers. They need a partner, but if the partner isn't a different species, then it's just blue girl, with your face (aka, Samara and Morinth, Liara and her mother, etc).
Why would this matter if it's asari/asari vs. asari/non-asari? It would work the same regardless...the 'father' simply provides the other nervous system to activate it. This should be species independent.
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[quote]pf17456 wrote...
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That would be true, but this is Asari, Asari. Thus, nothing is change. The father simply is used to activate the pregnancy, since I doubt Asari can just be pregnant when they feel like it. Otherwise, there wouldn't be fathers. They need a partner, but if the partner isn't a different species, then it's just blue girl, with your face (aka, Samara and Morinth, Liara and her mother, etc).[/quote]
I never thought Liara looked anything like her mother
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Let did a compare with the new Liara. Also, keep in mind, her mother is 1000 years older.
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That would be true, but this is Asari, Asari. Thus, nothing is change. The father simply is used to activate the pregnancy, since I doubt Asari can just be pregnant when they feel like it. Otherwise, there wouldn't be fathers. They need a partner, but if the partner isn't a different species, then it's just blue girl, with your face (aka, Samara and Morinth, Liara and her mother, etc).[/quote]
I never thought Liara looked anything like her mother
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Let did a compare with the new Liara. Also, keep in mind, her mother is 1000 years older.
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Posté 26 août 2010 - 08:02
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jlb524 wrote...
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That would be true, but this is Asari, Asari. Thus, nothing is change. The father simply is used to activate the pregnancy, since I doubt Asari can just be pregnant when they feel like it. Otherwise, there wouldn't be fathers. They need a partner, but if the partner isn't a different species, then it's just blue girl, with your face (aka, Samara and Morinth, Liara and her mother, etc).
Why would this matter if it's asari/asari vs. asari/non-asari? It would work the same regardless...the 'father' simply provides the other nervous system to activate it. This should be species independent.
Because it's not DNA. It's like, + and +. You get nothing from that, except more. But + and -, you get differences. Things can be 20, things can be 100, things can be 63.4, etc. You get more random numbers. But with Asari, it's 20, 40, 60, 80, 100.
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Posté 26 août 2010 - 08:04
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Eyebrows.pf17456 wrote...
I never thought Liara looked anything like her mother
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Posté 26 août 2010 - 08:05
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TMA LIVE wrote...
Let did a compare with the new Liara. Also, keep in mind, her mother is 1000 years older.
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Posté 26 août 2010 - 08:11
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TMA LIVE wrote...
Because it's not DNA. It's like, + and +. You get nothing from that, except more. But + and -, you get differences. Things can be 20, things can be 100, things can be 63.4, etc. You get more random numbers. But with Asari, it's 20, 40, 60, 80, 100.
That makes no sense. Why would an asari melding with another asari mean less random numbers if all that is happening is that the linking of the nervous system is triggering a randomization of the second set of DNA? I think the randomizations possibilities are independent of the 'father'.
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Yeled wrote...
I realize you're no longer here to defend your position, but I think this point is precisely what Sig is saying. Since we can assume Asari do continue to have genetic mutations, and since by the theory you and jlb are taking Asari are incapable of sharing genetic material with one another, over a long period of time genetic mutations would lead each Asari bloodline into an entirely seperate species.
Humans have genetic mutations, some of which result in the species changing. But because humans can share these mutations with one another, evolutionary theory would tell us that humans can use these mutations to adapt the entire species. If humans had a mutation that added a beneficial trait, that trait would enter the gene pool and be shared among large sectors of the population.
But since Asari are incapable of sharing mutations with one another by your theory, any mutation would only be passed mother to daughter, mother to daughter. If an Asari developed green skin (yes), she might pass that skin pigmentation to her offspring, but never to an Asari who is not a direct (randomized) clone of the original green asari. Enough of those mutations occuring in different lines would make each Asari bloodline distinct from all others, until the point that they no longer resemble one another as a species.
At some point the only shared species trait might be the ability to reproduce in the Asari manner, but even this is circumspect...a bloodline may develop a mutation that changes this.
I'm back. That doesn't seem so much a refutation as it is a practical, proper logical expansion. Also, I think it sounds like great sci-fi.
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Posté 26 août 2010 - 08:12
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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...
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Let did a compare with the new Liara. Also, keep in mind, her mother is 1000 years older.
You stole that from me!!!! I think it was your idea though.
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jlb524 wrote...
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Let did a compare with the new Liara. Also, keep in mind, her mother is 1000 years older.
You stole that from me!!!! I think it was your idea though.
Yes, yes!
Did someone not theorise before that asari may begin to increasingly physically resemble their mothers as they grow older? That may explain the reason as to why Liara more closely resembles Benezia with her new character model.
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What the...? Liara looks less...teal in that picture than in other versions of that picture that I've seen.
#47096
Posté 26 août 2010 - 08:21
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I still wonder why they changed her face model again.
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Posté 26 août 2010 - 08:21
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jlb524 wrote...
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Because it's not DNA. It's like, + and +. You get nothing from that, except more. But + and -, you get differences. Things can be 20, things can be 100, things can be 63.4, etc. You get more random numbers. But with Asari, it's 20, 40, 60, 80, 100.
That makes no sense. Why would an asari melding with another asari mean less random numbers if all that is happening is that the linking of the nervous system is triggering a randomization of the second set of DNA? I think the randomizations possibilities are independent of the 'father'.
Because it's an Asari, nothing's gained. Instead of a random number, you might not get a number at all, or number that's already been used. You just activate it. But with another race, you're grabbing something different, that hasn't been with the asari for billions of years. You're getting something random.
But this is just a thought, based on something that isn't clearly explained, and I ain't no scientist on Video Game characters.
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I still wonder why they changed her face model again.
I think that they are trying to make her look more like her mother. They darkened the color of her lips, and her skin color seem to be different.
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I think we're all looking at varied information from BW about Asari resulting in having to piece together what we can and fill in the blanks with our own perceptions. I don't think there's any right or wrong just varied perceptions and that's ok. Adds to interest.
I choose at least for now to view the Asari as using their strengths which I consider to be longevity, sexuality and ability to mate cross species to peacefully establish themselves as the dominate galactic race via seduction and evolve themselves by selecting genetic qualities from their mates that will enhance their offspring and in this process they allow the admirable qualities of the fathers of their children to live on. I recgonize my perception has a Maslow/ Darwin influence
I choose at least for now to view the Asari as using their strengths which I consider to be longevity, sexuality and ability to mate cross species to peacefully establish themselves as the dominate galactic race via seduction and evolve themselves by selecting genetic qualities from their mates that will enhance their offspring and in this process they allow the admirable qualities of the fathers of their children to live on. I recgonize my perception has a Maslow/ Darwin influence
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Posté 26 août 2010 - 08:28
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yorkj86 wrote...
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I still wonder why they changed her face model again.
I think that they are trying to make her look more like her mother. They darkened the color of her lips, and her skin color seem to be different.
I like that. But it kinda screws with continuation since her new face looks more diffrent from how she looks at Illium, and there's only been like 3 months (at best) from a story perspective from Shepard leaving Illium to having defeated the Collectors. So unless she's been under serious stress that time, i don't she would look that diffrent.
