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[Nightwriter]

Semantics. Opinion. Coconut is the most misunderstood flavor.

[jlb524]

Nightwriter wrote...

Semantics. Opinion. Coconut is the most misunderstood flavor.

And so is Liara it seems.

[upsettingshorts]

Coconut is an awesome flavor. It um, gives me problems a few... nevermind. I won't go there. It's worth it though, everytime.

[Bill569]

I obviously can't follow all that conversation, so I'm just going to say that I really like Liara and would love to see her as a squadmate and a LI in ME3.

[Nightwriter]

No, no. She has a large fanbase. Jacob is probably the most misunderstood (I say this as someone among those who do not understand).

I liked ME2 Liara. She's portrayed as something other than a saint. Saints are nice but not terribly interesting. I believe any given character deserves more than that, especially Liara.

[jlb524]

No one can prove that ME2 Liara isn't just an existing facet of her ME1 personality manifesting itself in a different way due to the unique circumstances she finds herself in.

Nightwriter wrote...

I liked ME2 Liara. She's portrayed as
something other than a saint. Saints are nice but not terribly
interesting. I believe any given character deserves more than that,
especially Liara.

How was she protrayed as saintly in ME1?

Modifié par jlb524, 07 septembre 2010 - 11:32 .

[Nightwriter]

The things you come up with!

[jlb524]

Nightwriter wrote...

The things you come up with!

Well...you think Liara's a saint or something.

[Nightwriter]

Come on. She was a total saint. She was guileless, moral, good-natured, a general nice person all around.

[jlb524]

That doesn't make her a saint. She didn't give up her life long desire to study the Protheans to go cure the diseased of Omega or something.



And I think those qualities can still describe her in ME2.

[jlb524]

Anyways, you thought the ME1 Liara was 'boring' or whatever, but she hasn't changed or became more 'exciting' for one such as yourself. She didn't sit down one day and decide how she could make Nightwriter more interested in her character



I think she's the same, but is in an extraordinary position, so you get to see her character stick out more. I still think what we saw of Liara in ME1 was interesting too, but that's my opinion and all.

[Nightwriter]

Obviously I am using hyperbole to express the thorough purity, blamelessness and lack of moral ambiguity that was Liara's character in ME1. She was a good person.



These traits are not gone in ME2. They have simply been added to. This is a good thing.

[Nightwriter]

Liara did not change to please me personally. I just happen to find her new change pleasing.

[jlb524]

Nightwriter wrote...

Obviously I am using hyperbole to express the thorough purity, blamelessness and lack of moral ambiguity that was Liara's character in ME1. She was a good person.

These traits are not gone in ME2. They have simply been added to. This is a good thing.

That's what I'm saying...but I don't think they were 'added to', but were always there, and we didn't get to see them earlier.

Nightwriter wrote...

Liara did not change to please me personally. I just happen to find her new change pleasing.

Well, as much as you complained about her, she probably did [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/grin.png[/smilie]

Modifié par jlb524, 07 septembre 2010 - 11:49 .

[Nightwriter]

We cannot judge what they don't show us.

[Nightwriter]

And me? Complain? Perish the thought.

[jlb524]

Nightwriter wrote...

We cannot judge what they don't show us.

So?

[Nightwriter]

This is to say that in fiction, what matters is what is presented, and a thing that is not shown cannot be felt.

[jlb524]

Nightwriter wrote...

This is to say that in fiction, what matters is what is presented, and a thing that is not shown cannot be felt.

Not always....

Anyway, it was shown, just in the second game.  You should be then able to extrapolate back to the first game.  See?

[Nightwriter]

Yes, which is why the direction they went in game two is good.

But I'm not sure if I'd say ME2 Liara was hiding in ME1 Liara all the time. More like, Liara was forced into some grueling situations which changed her as a person.

Ah, or is the argument you really want to make that she was always a worthy character, I just didn't see it until now?

Because that is a different thing entirely. A character's fictional worth cannot be measured, except by the worth of the writer.

[JohnnyBeGood2]

Nightwriter lol.. always so much entertainment in your posts.

[Collider]

It's true.

[Erinlana]

Hey Liara thread ! ^____^

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Good day everyone! I assume everyone who post here is a PC user waiting for the DLC! ^^

Also I just played the DLC myself and guess what?

The fish in your captains cabin dies!

OHMYGODWHATTHE****SPOILERSIHATEYOULIZARDVIKING!

[CM26617]

Hello Liara thread!



Ha, not in my case, Lizard! I'm a console player in the unfortunate position of not being able to access the DLC, much more or less run it!



In the words of Stephen Fry and Hugh Laurie (similtaniously): "DAAAMN!"



Ahem, anyways ...