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[Captain Iglo]

TMA LIVE wrote...

For those that haven't romanced Liara in ME1, does anyone know what she says if you ask her about Feron?

The reason why I'm asking is because some people claim you can't romance her in this DLC. If so, that might be because they want to leave that for ME3. The same maybe said about Ash/Kaidan, and their DLC.

She says they are friends and that she doenst want to take advantage of his situation ( being hurt, mentally instable)...so she seems kinda interested...I guess if you dont romance they get together in part 3.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

TMA LIVE wrote...

For those that haven't romanced Liara in ME1, does anyone know what she says if you ask her about Feron?

The reason why I'm asking is because some people claim you can't romance her in this DLC. If so, that might be because they want to leave that for ME3. The same maybe said about Ash/Kaidan, and their DLC.

She says that Feron is a traumutized friend and having a relationship with him now would be taking advantage of his weakend emotional state. But I do get a feeling that if Shepard doesn't persue Liara, she will wind up with Feron in the end.

And you're right, you sadly can't romance Liara in this DLC with a single-shep. 

"EDIT" Got ninja'd!

Modifié par Lizardviking, 11 septembre 2010 - 03:07 .

[Nerdage]

vigna wrote...

OK, I finally played through with my OG Shep that Tali-cheated. I think I played through every dialogue option, and every interrupt option. I was amazed by how understanding, but sad Liara was. I enjoyed that she still flirted even though being "sorta" rejected.

I cannot for the life of me, however, understand why she didn't get more angry though. I understand her personality doesn't quite swing that way, and that Asari probably have a bit of a different outlook, but I thought after that 2 years she would have put up more of a fight.
I know she wanted to be with Shep--period. She can use the two years of mourning as an excuse, but I don't buy it. I understand there is a larger issue (reapers), and there is a friend option, but I think I expected more of a fight--even making Shep feel more guilty would have sufficed.

Was anyone else a bit let down by the results/dialogue/banter of the Shep/Liara breakup aspects of this DLC? I know most here were generally loyal, etc, but I thought there would have been more to it...more heartache. But as Liara said I guess the future may hold something different and maybe a reconcilliation to the romance.

Well she's reluctant to continue a relationship because she's already mourned Shepard, too, so I don't think she's making it up . Perhaps there's some rationalizing going on because she don't want to fall for Shepard again just to have him/her die again, even though she really does want Shepard emotionally, but I don't think she's just making the other points (reapers, mourning...) up.

[TMA LIVE]

Estelindis wrote...

Found that alien concept art. I knew I remembered Liara's beautiful dress from here:

It's also the same dress from the Mass Effect e3 demo. Which makes me wonder if that asari was the original Liara, or another version of her. 

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Modifié par TMA LIVE, 11 septembre 2010 - 05:31 .

[Marcin K]

well time for me to go today-cya all tomorrow

[yeldarbnotned]

Well, it was awesome to have Liara back! It is just too bad this was not included in the original release. It would of really enhanced the "immersion" of the game. Please, charge me more upfront for the game instead of adding additional major content, like Liara later on. She was just too valuable of a character in Mass Effect 1 to have to wait for.

[Nastrod]

I just finished and holy crap that was the best love interest ending yet.Awesome DLC I just wish Liara could have stayed on the Normandy. It was so great having her by my side again.

Modifié par Nastrod, 11 septembre 2010 - 08:15 .

[Nerevar-as]

nerdage wrote...

vigna wrote...

OK, I finally played through with my OG Shep that Tali-cheated. I think I played through every dialogue option, and every interrupt option. I was amazed by how understanding, but sad Liara was. I enjoyed that she still flirted even though being "sorta" rejected.

I cannot for the life of me, however, understand why she didn't get more angry though. I understand her personality doesn't quite swing that way, and that Asari probably have a bit of a different outlook, but I thought after that 2 years she would have put up more of a fight.
I know she wanted to be with Shep--period. She can use the two years of mourning as an excuse, but I don't buy it. I understand there is a larger issue (reapers), and there is a friend option, but I think I expected more of a fight--even making Shep feel more guilty would have sufficed.

Was anyone else a bit let down by the results/dialogue/banter of the Shep/Liara breakup aspects of this DLC? I know most here were generally loyal, etc, but I thought there would have been more to it...more heartache. But as Liara said I guess the future may hold something different and maybe a reconcilliation to the romance.

Well she's reluctant to continue a relationship because she's already mourned Shepard, too, so I don't think she's making it up . Perhaps there's some rationalizing going on because she don't want to fall for Shepard again just to have him/her die again, even though she really does want Shepard emotionally, but I don't think she's just making the other points (reapers, mourning...) up.

I also felt she had convinced herself Shepard wouldn´t love her after the 2 years and leaving him to an enemy, and that´s why she doesn´t get angrier if you went to other LI. It takes very liitle to get her back after all, so she hasn´t moved on much. I think she should be romanceable in ME3 for those who didn´t take the chance in 1 and might want now, not just hand her over to Feron (who at least is now more sympathetic than in the comic).

It also wasn´t possible to have a 3 way confrontation in the DLC, which might be another reason. A final resolution needs the other person too. How would someone as Jack react to Shepard cheating with her on someone who helped him/her so much and pais for it?

[NanQuan]

Finally got a chance to complete the dlc with my shep that romanced Liara. I loved it! Very moving and all I hoped for. I still felt the catharsis for a while after all was said and done.

[XX55XX]

Nerevar-as wrote...

nerdage wrote...

vigna wrote...

OK, I finally played through with my OG Shep that Tali-cheated. I think I played through every dialogue option, and every interrupt option. I was amazed by how understanding, but sad Liara was. I enjoyed that she still flirted even though being "sorta" rejected.

I cannot for the life of me, however, understand why she didn't get more angry though. I understand her personality doesn't quite swing that way, and that Asari probably have a bit of a different outlook, but I thought after that 2 years she would have put up more of a fight.
I know she wanted to be with Shep--period. She can use the two years of mourning as an excuse, but I don't buy it. I understand there is a larger issue (reapers), and there is a friend option, but I think I expected more of a fight--even making Shep feel more guilty would have sufficed.

Was anyone else a bit let down by the results/dialogue/banter of the Shep/Liara breakup aspects of this DLC? I know most here were generally loyal, etc, but I thought there would have been more to it...more heartache. But as Liara said I guess the future may hold something different and maybe a reconcilliation to the romance.

Well she's reluctant to continue a relationship because she's already mourned Shepard, too, so I don't think she's making it up . Perhaps there's some rationalizing going on because she don't want to fall for Shepard again just to have him/her die again, even though she really does want Shepard emotionally, but I don't think she's just making the other points (reapers, mourning...) up.

I also felt she had convinced herself Shepard wouldn´t love her after the 2 years and leaving him to an enemy, and that´s why she doesn´t get angrier if you went to other LI. It takes very liitle to get her back after all, so she hasn´t moved on much. I think she should be romanceable in ME3 for those who didn´t take the chance in 1 and might want now, not just hand her over to Feron (who at least is now more sympathetic than in the comic).

It also wasn´t possible to have a 3 way confrontation in the DLC, which might be another reason. A final resolution needs the other person too. How would someone as Jack react to Shepard cheating with her on someone who helped him/her so much and pais for it?

That would be for ME3, when the whole voice cast is back together again in Edmonton for a big recording session. I'm looking forward to it already... but, till then, we have our imaginations - and fanfiction.

[Valentyna]

Hmnm. Im sure its been asked and answered already, and appologize, but im curious and I ahve to know - can you win Lliara back if you 'cheated' with one of the ME2 love interests? I just finsihed the DLC (finally) with my default shepard, who was loyal to her scary, obsessive, vengeful lover, and Im curious about the road not taken.

[Nerdage]

Valentyna wrote...

Hmnm. Im sure its been asked and answered already, and appologize, but im curious and I ahve to know - can you win Lliara back if you 'cheated' with one of the ME2 love interests? I just finsihed the DLC (finally) with my default shepard, who was loyal to her scary, obsessive, vengeful lover, and Im curious about the road not taken.

Yep. Or at least I've heard so, I haven't tried it.

[Valentyna]

Hmm... what would happen if you were in the process of romancing someone else, and tried to win her back before completing the colletor base, I wonder? I guess no one's had time to try yet, probably.

Anyhoo, GREAT DLC!

And I agree. I missed having a proper adept to back me up (although I was once again jarred by the game defaulting ME - or Shepherd, rather - to soldier mode during cut-scenes; Lliara and evil specter woman are both tossing glowy blue space magic around and IM stuck tackling people like a linebacker, LOL). Hmm... digression... sorry!

But I loved that to death. Well worth waiting for. I think its actually better that it came out after the game. Kinda helps get me in the right frame of mind when I ahve the same anticipation as my character, LOL.

And I wish Lliara would rejoin the crew too, but I can't deny that having her where she is a much better way to develop her, and show her growing as a person. If she gave up her calling as an information broker to come fight at your side again without a second thought she'd be in danger of ending up like Garrus - fun to have around, but kinda stagnant as a character.

EDIT: IM not sure how that will play out in ME3.  Id sure like to be able to ahve her at my side for the final confrontation.  I get the feeling she'd want to be there too, especially after she complains about how it worries her and makes it hard to have a relationship that Shepard is always leaving to go off without her into danger, and possibly get killed again.  For the bulk of the game though... I',m not sure how to work it.  But then... maybe thats why Im not a writer, lOL

I sure wish I could swap Jack or Samara's powers for hers though, LOL.

Modifié par Valentyna, 11 septembre 2010 - 09:33 .

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

How did any of you handle the hostage scene in LOTSB? I couldn't do the persuasion check (since it requires you either release Rachni/save council or kill Rachni/kill council), so I chose to simply shoot through Mariana's arm and hurt Vasir.

[yeldarbnotned]

Lizardviking wrote...

How did any of you handle the hostage scene in LOTSB? I couldn't do the persuasion check (since it requires you either release Rachni/save council or kill Rachni/kill council), so I chose to simply shoot through Mariana's arm and hurt Vasir.

By using the blue persuasion, you just make clear to Vasir that one little hostage is not going to stop you.  Then Liara uses biotics to hit Vasir from behind with a table

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

yeldarbnotned wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

How did any of you handle the hostage scene in LOTSB? I couldn't do the persuasion check (since it requires you either release Rachni/save council or kill Rachni/kill council), so I chose to simply shoot through Mariana's arm and hurt Vasir.

By using the blue persuasion, you just make clear to Vasir that one little hostage is not going to stop you.  Then Liara uses biotics to hit Vasir from behind with a table

I know what it does. Just asked how you handled it. But from the post I guess you took the paragon approach.

[Nerevar-as]

What´s the Intimidate option? I mean, Paragon had me going WTF?, even if bluffing for a distraction, hell of a thing to say. If I haven´t enough karma in my next playthrough, who is paragade, I´ll go for the shoot the hostage. Minor wound, no longer hostage, beat that idiot who doesn´t ask why someone must be killed.

yorkj86, maybe that´s what they meant by consequences? Wonder what they´ll do with Kaidan and specially Ash - she doesn´t strike me as the "I understand type", especially considering that you would move to an alien, a psyco, and a terrorist. But I hope they have something in mind for Liara too, even if you ddn´t try love triangle. Liara sholud have a better sense of her worth.

Modifié par Nerevar-as, 11 septembre 2010 - 10:07 .

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Nerevar-as wrote...

What´s the Intimidate option? I mean, Paragon had me going WTF?, even if bluffing for a distraction, hell of a thing to say. If I haven´t enough karma in my next playthrough, who is paragade, I´ll go for the shoot the hostage. Minor wound, no longer hostage, beat that idiot who doesn´t ask why someone must be killed.

The paragon option make sense. Shepard doesn't want to hurt the hostage, so he bluffs in order to be intemidating.

I don't know what the renegade option is. But I have a feeling that Shepard talks about his track record and reminds Vasir that he doesn't care about casuelties. Resulting in Vasir getting scared ****less.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

yorkj86 wrote...

What did people think, when Liara mentioned how she cowered, while Shepard fought the Krogan Battlemaster, on Therum? Was that a little out-of-character, or did it illustrate how Liara really did learn a thing or two from Shepard?

I don't see how it is OOC. Doesn't Liara want to be Shepard's equal or atleast do something to help him/make him proud?

[Valentyna]

I had the impression that she felt embarrassed to be asking her for help, since she's obviously gone such a long way to make herself a dangerous, and independent person- and succeeded. I dont think it was a matter of how far she'd come at that point, so much as a very human (Asari?) moment of doubt, but it did serve as a great reminder to me, the player, about where Lliara started out that did make me appreciate how much she'd grown to be all, action-heroin-y, and taking over the galaxy (or at least the Shadow Broker's business).

[Nerevar-as]

yorkj86 wrote...

What did people think, when Liara mentioned how she cowered, while Shepard fought the Krogan Battlemaster, on Therum? Was that a little out-of-character, or did it illustrate how Liara really did learn a thing or two from Shepard?

Not OOC, it probably frustrated her she couldn´t help in that fight, and she had to be saved. Nice to show a bit of pride. Too many times characters in both games act as less as their own person and more measuring themselves with Shepard as a reference (ironic in ME2, with so many squadie centered content that Shepard is a supporting character most of the game).

[IndigoWolfe]

Just dropping in with a couple questions before I play LotSB again.



The first being, now that Liara DLC is here with proper characterization, does anyone else find it funny how Liara says "Still hunting" when you ask her how her own work is going? Funny in the way threatening demeanors can be very endearing.



The second being; has anyone tried the last mission of LotSB with DLC armor on? Awkward spur-of-the-moment kiss to be sure.