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[AndroLeonidas]

Thinking about a few things about ME2 and Liara overall...



1. The data Shepard retrieves from the Cerberus agent has to play a part in future DLC or ME3.



2. What was on the data that Katsumi's partner found?



3. Prothean discoveries by the old Shadow Broker have to play a part in future DLCs or ME3.



4. The way LotSB ended... there is no possible way for Liara to get pushed out of the picture anymore. Technically Shep is still working for Cerberus... and TIMs end mission statement says he needs to watch their relationship closely. I believe she will play important role, probably as vital NPC in future installments. Bioware has backed themselves into a corner in that regard I believe. Even if Liara isn't your LI... she is in a powerful position for you as a good friend and ally. If she is your LI... who do you think will have more influence over Shepard now. Cerberus or Liara? No brainer there if you ask me.



5. Shepard has killed another Spectre... granted it was self defense... but who believes the Council will use this against him?



6. Does Liara maintain her position on Illium as Information Broker to facilitate things or does she drop off the map. Anyone who knows Shepard and sees Liara suddenly vanish will know something is up. Bad guys and good guys.



7. I was watching some Youtube vids and Liara says some interesting things about Admiral Hackett if you are just friends with her. Interesting.

[Nerdage]

Nimrodell wrote...

I don't want to open new thread just to ask this question - is matriarch Aethyta Liara's father? What do you think? In ME1 Liara states that she is pureblood and that she never knew who her 'father' was. Then in ME2 we meet bartender matriarch Aethyta that says that she even had pureblood daughter once but it didn't go well... Liara depicted Benezia in ME1 as open-minded benevolent asari when it comes to other races and ofc those who surround her, and Aethyta is pretty much badass, militant but also wise person and that could be the reason for their unfortunate split up... and then we see Aethyta drinking and watching the photo of asari that looks like Liara, her fringe color, skin tone and even lipstick... could it be that Aethyta is actually Liara's long lost secret 'father'?

Of course she's her parent because, of the dozen asari we've actually talked to, she's the only one who mentions having a pureblood child. That's just how the galaxy works... I'm surprised they didn't give you the option to say "Oh, I know a pureblood asari, any chance it's her?".

Still, she's pretty cool, so if it had to be someone we met...

[AndroLeonidas]

Oh... has anyone beaten the SB to get the upgrades and THEn gone to fight the Collectors and returned to take Liara to the Normandy? If so... is dialogue different?

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

IndigoWolfe wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

Going back to yestodays minor discussion about Shepard and Liara's child. As much as I (and many others) would want a happy ending. Couldn't it be somewhat tragic if their child ended up resenting humans (and Shepard)? Perhaps in the aftermath of the war against the Reapers the humans gain alot of power. Resulting in their child growing up in a increasingly human dominated galaxy?

I know it's a farfetched idea.

Now, there's an interesting idea. Because, Renegades can in fact romance Liara. I have to wonder if, by the time of ME3, Liara would comment on Renegade Shepard letting the Council die and keeping the Collector Base for Cerberus. It would make sense to me that Liara would have some reaction to Shepard's repeated actions of putting the dominance of the human race above that of the good of the galaxy.

Or maybe she believes that anything Shepard does in necessary to stop the Reapers?

In either case, I'd have to agree that a child of Shepard and Liara's would probably have their own opinion of humanity ruling the galaxy. Or maybe, since Shepard would probably be there to help raise her, she would agree with the state of affairs. Maybe she would see herself more as a human than an asari? If that makes sense...

Note: Yeah, I haven't really been on today, and I'm just about to head to bed. I've been busy since eight o'clock this morning with Halo: Reach.  But it doesn't look like it's been very busy here.

I was thinking more in the lines of a paragon save council/save base. So the time it would take for the humans to get dominace would be longer (around the same time it would take their child to grow up and perhaps become a specter?). So she would have seen how things got worse over time.

[DigitalMaster37]

Good morning fellow Liara lovers!!!

[jlb524]

AndroLeonidas wrote...

Thinking about a few things about ME2 and Liara overall...

1. The data Shepard retrieves from the Cerberus agent has to play a part in future DLC or ME3.

2. What was on the data that Katsumi's partner found?

3. Prothean discoveries by the old Shadow Broker have to play a part in future DLCs or ME3.

4. The way LotSB ended... there is no possible way for Liara to get pushed out of the picture anymore. Technically Shep is still working for Cerberus... and TIMs end mission statement says he needs to watch their relationship closely. I believe she will play important role, probably as vital NPC in future installments. Bioware has backed themselves into a corner in that regard I believe. Even if Liara isn't your LI... she is in a powerful position for you as a good friend and ally. If she is your LI... who do you think will have more influence over Shepard now. Cerberus or Liara? No brainer there if you ask me.

5. Shepard has killed another Spectre... granted it was self defense... but who believes the Council will use this against him?

6. Does Liara maintain her position on Illium as Information Broker to facilitate things or does she drop off the map. Anyone who knows Shepard and sees Liara suddenly vanish will know something is up. Bad guys and good guys.

7. I was watching some Youtube vids and Liara says some interesting things about Admiral Hackett if you are just friends with her. Interesting.

I posted my reply to this in the group if you are interested.

[Marcin K]

was on dinner-what did i missed?

[ValerioN7]

Two new wallpapers, one with quotes and one without.
I absolutely prefer the first one:wub:, but not everyone likes quotes, so i decided to post both. If someone likes this type of wallpaper, i should create a set with other LotSB images, mantaining this layout. I would like to use a MaleShep kiss image if someone can give me one, because i have a Male Shepard with Liara.

Talking about the technical part, i tried to smussate some borders, but the result was worse, so i mantained bordes and angles without any kind of shade.

Hope someone likes them.



http://img841.images...5444/liara2.png <-- 1920x1080



http://img690.images...iara2simple.png <-- 1920x1080

Someone has a better resolution version of this?

Modifié par ValerioN7, 15 septembre 2010 - 05:54 .

[Slakky]

Nerevar-as wrote...

Pacifien wrote...

About the Council, oddly enough, if you take Kaidan and Liara with you to the final battle, it's Liara who advocates sacrificing the Council. She's also the one who puts a bullet in Saren's head. Even then, she showed signs that she is hardcore, man.

In Noveria with Kaidan she was the one who wanted the queen freed, although Kaidan doesn´t press the issue as other squadies do when you free her. Council choice and shooting Saren were more fitting to Kaidan too. Liara had said she felt sorry for Saren earlier. At no point in the game does Kaidan feel more paragon than her. For that matter, I think Garrus being more renagade than Ashley was quite surprising too.

ME1 had some weird angel/devil on your shoulder system where squaddie #2 was always the paragon and #3 was the renegade (or vice versa).  They'll switch opinions depending on how they were selected, but yeah, Liara was always hardcore.

See also Tali's split personality.

[Marcin K]

ok time for me to go today-i'll be on tomorrow

i might have not been active in past week or 2 but i had some struggles to struggle trough - almost everything but 1 thing is clearly sorted out now:)

[almostinsane]

AndroLeonidas wrote...

Thinking about a few things about ME2 and Liara overall...

1. The data Shepard retrieves from the Cerberus agent has to play a part in future DLC or ME3.

2. What was on the data that Katsumi's partner found?

3. Prothean discoveries by the old Shadow Broker have to play a part in future DLCs or ME3.

4. The way LotSB ended... there is no possible way for Liara to get pushed out of the picture anymore. Technically Shep is still working for Cerberus... and TIMs end mission statement says he needs to watch their relationship closely. I believe she will play important role, probably as vital NPC in future installments. Bioware has backed themselves into a corner in that regard I believe. Even if Liara isn't your LI... she is in a powerful position for you as a good friend and ally. If she is your LI... who do you think will have more influence over Shepard now. Cerberus or Liara? No brainer there if you ask me.

5. Shepard has killed another Spectre... granted it was self defense... but who believes the Council will use this against him?

6. Does Liara maintain her position on Illium as Information Broker to facilitate things or does she drop off the map. Anyone who knows Shepard and sees Liara suddenly vanish will know something is up. Bad guys and good guys.

7. I was watching some Youtube vids and Liara says some interesting things about Admiral Hackett if you are just friends with her. Interesting.

Who else gets the feeling that Mass Effect 3 starts with the Council screwing Shepard over while he's meeting them on the Citadel and he manages to escape thanks to Shadow Broker agents? Maybe the Normandy will be destroyed and the Shadow Broker's ship will become the third Normandy?

[Captain Iglo]

almostinsane wrote...

Who else gets the feeling that Mass Effect 3 starts with the Council screwing Shepard over while he's meeting them on the Citadel and he manages to escape thanks to Shadow Broker agents? Maybe the Normandy will be destroyed and the Shadow Broker's ship will become the third Normandy?

Nah man...the shadow broker ship is just build for this special atmosphere its traveling in...I dont think its built to be a fast practical copmbat ship.
But I think we probably have to rally all Allies without the agreement of the Council.
But anyway...think thats to much offtopic now.

What I always wondered...are Sheps crew member of ME1 actually well known people??
I mean...one would think they also would become some kind of heroes in the ranks of there own people.
I wonder If other Asari see Liara more as one of the saviors of the Citadel or the pureblood daughter of the traitor?

Modifié par Captain Iglo, 15 septembre 2010 - 07:29 .

[Nerevar-as]

AndroLeonidas wrote...

Thinking about a few things about ME2 and Liara overall...

2. What was on the data that Katsumi's partner found?

I´m guessing that they had found Sovereign first and didn´t share it, as in the Revelation book.

7. I was watching some Youtube vids and Liara says some interesting things about Admiral Hackett if you are just friends with her. Interesting.

Please link?

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Just so you guys know. I'm currently writing a minor fanfic for the first time. Hopefully when i'm done you will enjoy it!

[JamieCOTC]

Nerevar-as wrote...

AndroLeonidas wrote...

Thinking about a few things about ME2 and Liara overall...

2. What was on the data that Katsumi's partner found?

I´m guessing that they had found Sovereign first and didn´t share it, as in the Revelation book.

7. I was watching some Youtube vids and Liara says some interesting things about Admiral Hackett if you are just friends with her. Interesting.

Please link?

Link

Modifié par JamieCOTC, 15 septembre 2010 - 11:06 .

[jlb524]

Nice wallpapers, Valerio!



Thanks for that link, Jamie...I've been meaning to looking for it, and have been too lazy to grab it.

[Jaron Oberyn]

JamieCOTC wrote...

Nerevar-as wrote...

AndroLeonidas wrote...

Thinking about a few things about ME2 and Liara overall...

2. What was on the data that Katsumi's partner found?

I´m guessing that they had found Sovereign first and didn´t share it, as in the Revelation book.

7. I was watching some Youtube vids and Liara says some interesting things about Admiral Hackett if you are just friends with her. Interesting.

Please link?

Link

I don't get how that's interesting...? 

-Polite

[Collider]

Stopping by to support Liara and hope she's in ME3. Also, congrats again on your DLC. Bioware did a great job.

[jlb524]

Collider wrote...

Stopping by to support Liara and hope she's in ME3. Also, congrats again on your DLC. Bioware did a great job.

They did...thanks Collider.  I think there's no question she'll be in ME3, but I'm thinking she won't be a squad mate...I'm not sure I even want her to be a squad mate.

*looks at thread title*

Whoops!  Shouldn't say that here.

[leeboi2]

jlb524 wrote...

Collider wrote...

Stopping by to support Liara and hope she's in ME3. Also, congrats again on your DLC. Bioware did a great job.

They did...thanks Collider.  I think there's no question she'll be in ME3, but I'm thinking she won't be a squad mate...I'm not sure I even want her to be a squad mate.

*looks at thread title*

Whoops!  Shouldn't say that here.

:blink:
HERETIC!

[Collider]

I take that that means you'd prefer that she stay the SB and help Shepard that way.

[jlb524]

Sorry leeboi!

Collider wrote...

I take that that means you'd prefer that she stay the SB and help Shepard that way.

Yes, I think it's only logical.  Shepard has plenty of squad mates and biotic specialists already.  Not to undermine Liara's abilities in combat, but there are plenty of people around the galaxy that can do the 'biotic powerhouse' job for Shepard.  However, I feel there's only one person that Shepard trusts enough and has the training and mental capabilities to do the SB job and collect key intel for Shepard to use against the Reapers, and that one person is Liara.

[Auzden]

I hope Liara doesnt loose herself becuz of being the Shadow Broker