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#49201
arcuido27

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Xilizhra wrote...

If Liara ends up going fully Renegade in
ME3, I could see Shepard and Samara teaming up to take her down.. I
think it'd be quite fascinating and emotionally wrought, especially if
Liara was Shepard's previous LI... and if Samara ends up as one as well.

Not that I want it, really. I love Liara, I just think it would be a good story.


This would really be a great idea and also a great idea for a Fanfic ! *Hint at the Fanfic writers* Write it ! Now ! :lol:


Ajosraa wrote...

I think they find out if said asari is an
ardat yakshi in their maiden stage. By maturity i think they generally
mean when they are not considered a "child" by their standards. Morinth
ran away from home at age 40 because of the whole ardat yakshi thing,
nowhere near matron stage. Samara's other ardat yakshi children are in a
secluded monestary from what I remember.


Now that u said it, i remember. So are Asari maturing at the age of 40 ? Or am I slow to catch on..
Edit: Oh but one moment, Liara said in ME1 she is only 106 or was it 7 ? And that she is still seen(?) as a "child" in the Asari World.

Modifié par arcuido27, 17 septembre 2010 - 09:05 .


#49202
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I'd write it myself, but I don't have Lair... I will, however, gladly work with anyone who wants to write it. I enjoy co-writing.

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ValerioN7 wrote...

arcuido27 wrote...

Btw, am i wrong or is it possible for liara to become a ardat yakshi ? The condition is impossible to identify until the asari reaches maturity, by which time it is too late to correct. Pureblood only. And Liara is 109 so not full matured, am i correct ? I dont really think they would do somehting like that with her, but the possibility is given isnt it ?


I don't think, don't forget that before Asari were able to explore the outer space they only were able to have children with other Asari, and i don't think that all purebloods are going to become Ardat-Yakshi.


I doubt Liara will be an Ardat-Yakshi, though it would depend on the definition of maturity.  Since the condition in linked to mating, I would think it would manifest itself upon sexual maturity.  Also note that Morrinth ran away at the age of 40 as she would not accept the sentence thrust upon her.  Liara is waaay past 40 and obviously sexually mature.  :whistle:

#49204
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That could be arcuido27( on the asari maturing thing). Since we dont know when exactly asari "puberty" takes place, perhaps age 40 is around that time, as the word "maturing" could be used in that context I suppose.

#49205
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Good read. A lot of that was how I felt.


Cheers.

I based the story off my canon Shepard, so I had plans to write in the Samara romance, if only so I also could tell/give reason for why somebody might take a new LI in ME2. But I ultimativly decided against it. Mostly because I don't think I could write it without having the Shepard look like some sleazy selfish douche.

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jlb524 wrote...

Yeah, I would have liked for 'the loyals' to get something extra, but it seems we didn't really. The scenes pretty much play out the same, with only small differences in some dialog.


You might not like this, but I do wish there was an option to tell her I thought I moved on, and dated someone else, and that I'm sorry. That if she wanted to hate me, then she should hate me. But right now, I love her. I need this to be honest and real, with no secrets. That I didn't do it out of hate, but simply because I felt so hurt after 7 months of nothing but emptiness. But I've now done my own damage, which is probably far greater. I can't change that. Or I can, but it wouldn't be honest. All I can do is tell her I'm truly sorry.

Modifié par TMA LIVE, 17 septembre 2010 - 09:32 .


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arcuido27 wrote...

Edit: Oh but one moment, Liara said in ME1 she is only 106 or was it 7 ? And that she is still seen(?) as a "child" in the Asari World.


She says that she's seen as little more than a child by other Asari Scholars, it has nothing to do with physical maturity but rather her age compared to other established researchers in her field. It would be like someone a year or two after getting their PhD claiming that the Mayan civilization collapsed because of an attack by peoples living in modern day Florida, dispite the evidence this person could provide many would dismiss it out of hand because the individual is not an established name in the field with many years of experience. So she's not an Ardat-Yakshi . . .

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Some Work in progress of mine
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Can somebody please kick me in the ass...I take way to much time for this!

#49209
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Not to split hairs, but i belive Liaras exact words were " I am barely considered more then a child". so not a little kid, but a young adult maybe? In relative human terms. But in anycase I would assume they would have found that out by now(the doctors, or poor shepard for that matter:P) her being 106 in me1, and 108 in me2. Is it possible for late onset? God i hope not:)

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adneate wrote...

arcuido27 wrote...

Edit: Oh but one moment, Liara said in ME1 she is only 106 or was it 7 ? And that she is still seen(?) as a "child" in the Asari World.


She says that she's seen as little more than a child by other Asari Scholars, it has nothing to do with physical maturity but rather her age compared to other established researchers in her field. It would be like someone a year or two after getting their PhD claiming that the Mayan civilization collapsed because of an attack by peoples living in modern day Florida, dispite the evidence this person could provide many would dismiss it out of hand because the individual is not an established name in the field with many years of experience. So she's not an Ardat-Yakshi . . .


Thanks for that., bad memory.

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Some Work in progress of mine
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Can somebody please kick me in the ass...I take way to much time for this!


I really want to see the top one finished, And the bottom one looks great.

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rynluna wrote...

ValerioN7 wrote...

Quick quick poll:

Normandy date happy wallpaper or Normandy date love and kiss wallpaper?


Love and kisses! :wub:


1-0, with my vote 2-0, anyone else? :lol:

#49213
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The Second one !

Normandy date love and kiss wallpaper

Modifié par arcuido27, 17 septembre 2010 - 09:30 .


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ValerioN7 wrote...

rynluna wrote...

ValerioN7 wrote...

Quick quick poll:

Normandy date happy wallpaper or Normandy date love and kiss wallpaper?


Love and kisses! :wub:


1-0, with my vote 2-0, anyone else? :lol:


I just want...


MORE!!!!!

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Modifié par TMA LIVE, 17 septembre 2010 - 09:31 .


#49216
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TMA LIVE wrote...

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*laughing* Just PURE AWESOME ! :lol:

Modifié par arcuido27, 17 septembre 2010 - 09:34 .


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adneate wrote...

arcuido27 wrote...

Edit: Oh but one moment, Liara said in ME1 she is only 106 or was it 7 ? And that she is still seen(?) as a "child" in the Asari World.


She says that she's seen as little more than a child by other Asari Scholars, it has nothing to do with physical maturity but rather her age compared to other established researchers in her field. It would be like someone a year or two after getting their PhD claiming that the Mayan civilization collapsed because of an attack by peoples living in modern day Florida, dispite the evidence this person could provide many would dismiss it out of hand because the individual is not an established name in the field with many years of experience. So she's not an Ardat-Yakshi . . .


Indeed.  I do now wonder if a newborn asari is considered to be a Maiden or not?  I always took the three stages of the asari life-cycle to be parts of their adult life, and not parts of their entire life.  Thus, all asari are considered adults when hitting the Maiden stage, and this occurs after their childhood stage (where they grow up from a newborn into a full adult asari).  Thus, a Maiden is like a young adult, but not a child.   I could be wrong, but that was my interpretation.

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jlb524 wrote...

adneate wrote...

arcuido27 wrote...

Edit: Oh but one moment, Liara said in ME1 she is only 106 or was it 7 ? And that she is still seen(?) as a "child" in the Asari World.


She says that she's seen as little more than a child by other Asari Scholars, it has nothing to do with physical maturity but rather her age compared to other established researchers in her field. It would be like someone a year or two after getting their PhD claiming that the Mayan civilization collapsed because of an attack by peoples living in modern day Florida, dispite the evidence this person could provide many would dismiss it out of hand because the individual is not an established name in the field with many years of experience. So she's not an Ardat-Yakshi . . .


Indeed.  I do now wonder if a newborn asari is considered to be a Maiden or not?  I always took the three stages of the asari life-cycle to be parts of their adult life, and not parts of their entire life.  Thus, all asari are considered adults when hitting the Maiden stage, and this occurs after their childhood stage (where they grow up from a newborn into a full adult asari).  Thus, a Maiden is like a young adult, but not a child.   I could be wrong, but that was my interpretation.


Too high for me i need google language thingy. Or numbers... :blink:

#49219
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Lizardviking wrote...

ValerioN7 wrote...

rynluna wrote...

ValerioN7 wrote...

Quick quick poll:

Normandy date happy wallpaper or Normandy date love and kiss wallpaper?


Love and kisses! :wub:


1-0, with my vote 2-0, anyone else? :lol:


I just want...


MORE!!!!!


arcuido27 wrote...

The Second one !

Normandy date love and kiss wallpaper


Ok, definitely the second one.:wub:

I'm leaving now, good night to everyone.

#49220
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night Valerion !

#49221
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Goodnight Valerion!

#49222
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jlb524 wrote...

adneate wrote...

arcuido27 wrote...

Edit: Oh but one moment, Liara said in ME1 she is only 106 or was it 7 ? And that she is still seen(?) as a "child" in the Asari World.


She says that she's seen as little more than a child by other Asari Scholars, it has nothing to do with physical maturity but rather her age compared to other established researchers in her field. It would be like someone a year or two after getting their PhD claiming that the Mayan civilization collapsed because of an attack by peoples living in modern day Florida, dispite the evidence this person could provide many would dismiss it out of hand because the individual is not an established name in the field with many years of experience. So she's not an Ardat-Yakshi . . .


Indeed.  I do now wonder if a newborn asari is considered to be a Maiden or not?  I always took the three stages of the asari life-cycle to be parts of their adult life, and not parts of their entire life.  Thus, all asari are considered adults when hitting the Maiden stage, and this occurs after their childhood stage (where they grow up from a newborn into a full adult asari).  Thus, a Maiden is like a young adult, but not a child.   I could be wrong, but that was my interpretation.




This is what the Wiki sais...
Asari pass through three climacteric life stages, marked by biochemical and physiological changes:

  • The Maiden stage begins at birth and is marked by the drive to explore and experience. Most young asari are curious and restless.
  • The Matron stage of life begins around the age of 350,
    though it can be triggered earlier if the individual melds frequently.
    This period is marked by a desire to settle in one area and raise
    children.
  • The Matriarch stage begins around 700 years of age, or
    later if the individual melds rarely. Matriarchs become active in their
    community as sages and councilors, dispensing wisdom from centuries of
    experience. Their knowledge and guidance may be one reason why
    Matriarchs are rarely seen outside asari space.
However, it should be noted that, each stage can be started whenever
an asari feels that she has reached the correct level of maturity. While
each stage of life is marked by strong biological tendencies,
individuals do make unexpected life choices. For example, there are
Maidens who stay close to home rather than explore, Matrons who would
rather work than build a family, and Matriarchs who have no interest in
community affairs.



Thus the asari life cycle is their entire life. A Newborn Asari is, as wiki sais, a Maiden.
Is Liara going to be a Matron soon, because of the meldings with Shep ? In the Cabin she wasnt really averse of the thought of children. *g*

Modifié par arcuido27, 17 septembre 2010 - 09:51 .


#49223
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OK, so the Maiden stage does begin at birth then. Thanks for the clarification there. I still believe that there is a point in the Maiden stage in which an asari is considered more than a child and receives the respect that tends to go along with that.

#49224
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As an archeologist Liara wasnt respected because of her age, as an Information Broker she was. Why was that ? If i find the Answer of this question i would have an answer to your question regarding "a point in the Maiden stage in which an asari is considered more than a child an receives the respect..."  I think it has something to do with the work she does. Dont u think ?

Modifié par arcuido27, 17 septembre 2010 - 10:04 .


#49225
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arcuido27 wrote...

As an archeologist Liara wasnt respected because of her age, as an Information Broker she was. Why was that ? If i find the Answer of this question i would have an answer to your question regarding "a point in the Maiden stage in which an asari is considered more than a child an receives the respect..."


Reasons why she's respected as an information broker.

A: She's been part of Shepard's team and helped stopped a "terrorist" attack on the citidal.
B: She wouldn't have been able to reach the top on Illium by playing clean.
C: She's Liara goddamn T'soni!