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[WilliamShatner]

justinnstuff wrote...

WilliamShatner wrote...

Too many smart ass comments available... my head... it's going too... explode!

LOL, that's exactly what I was thinking. I thought the game was more streamlined, but there was too much RPG taken out of it to get there. I won't get into that though, this thread is about Liara 

Sadly Liara is one of the primary victims of the "redefined Mass Effect experience".

[Angelraid]

wow cold shoulder

[jlb524]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

I love Liara's little smile after that, and the way she looks down.

I do too!  It's hard to get a good screen shot of it b/c Shepard's head is in the way

[JaylaClark]

General Stubbs wrote...

Somebody1003 wrote...

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Somebody1003 wrote...


Do you think that once Shepard dies and she is left alone for those hundreds of years she will take on a new lover?

Heh, we had this discussion earlier and alot of us felt not. Shepard is the first and only person who has ever meant something to Liara in her life, and once Shepard is dead and gone I can't see her moving on easily. Shep's lifespan is probably greatly increased from all the cybernetic implants, too, so maybe Liara will get to spend alot more time with Shepard than asari normally do with humans. Once Shepard has gone, I can see Liara raising her children and partipating in community and societal affairs as a means of honouring and remembering Shepard's legacy.

Yeah, I know humans can live to be about 150, and that was before they came to the citadel.
Id imagine that would give them newer medicine and such, plus Shepards cybernetics.
I would never want Liara to move onto someone else.

I have to say, in the next 30-50 years we should have the means to extend life for a couple hundred years.

In ME2's time, we should have the ability to extend it to at least 1000.
Shep could very well live as long as Liara.

Aw, I really wouldn't begrudge Liara or anything if she moved on after Shep passed on.  She said something about 'we don't dwell on that we're going to lose our partners, we celebrate what time we have with them'.  I just think she deserves a bit more than a bloody month to celebrate <_<.  In fact, (BEGIN WMG) I swear that that could be where the guilt comes from ... depending on what Liara and Shep tend to believe in (I know I've always ticked the 'no atheists in a foxhole' option with Ash, to the point of ranting at actual atheists offended by that line to the effect of 'then stop taking that option!', but I don't know all that much about Liara's beliefs in practice), she might be more worried about denying Shepard her idea of an afterlife than her having to work for a potentially evil organization like Cerberus.  Or, she's thinking less of herself as an asari for not being able to accept a loss she knew was coming eventually?  (END WMG)

But really, I don't expect Shepard to live longer than Miranda and Oriana should be able to (I presumed it could be around 200 from my take), but let's be honest, she -- again all my Sheps are 'she' -- will at least get a decent chance to raise a daughter beyond how old Liara is now, and have whole human lifetimes, plural, of happiness together.  (Maybe two or three daughters, even .  And she will get to raise them to basic maturity, which a lot of 'fathers' of asari don't get, so ...)

I'm just saying... I'm not greedy.  If I were really Alyna I'd be glad for an opportunity to make my LiLi happy for as long as I could, and be confident that even if she did remarry, she'd never forget me.  (Like, as a novelization for Star Trek made clear, Perrin never replaces Amanda in Sarek's eyes.)

[Nynaeve]

Geth Hunter Alpha wrote...

wow cold shoulder

Not at all! *waves*

[Nozybidaj]

Geth Hunter Alpha wrote...

wow cold shoulder

Nah, we just don't do a lot of hi/bye thread bumping here.  If you have something nice to say about Liara though feel free to join the conversation.

[Angelraid]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

The size of Liara's current role in ME2 is definitely bad for us Liara romancers, but what they're doing with Liara's guilt, grief and sorrow is interesting. If played right, it can make the romance even stronger between Shepard and Liara, as they overcome the adversity that's currently keeping them apart against their own will. If Shepard and Liara survive through this period of anxiety and unassuredness, then their relationship will be stronger than ever.

Im pretty sure that she'll be back in ME3, I mean they made a comic staring her. and they already mentioned that there would be rewards for staying loyal, and possibly some fallout if you werent.

Although does anyone else feel a bit betrayed that she would choose revenge over you?

[Angelraid]

Nozybidaj wrote...

Geth Hunter Alpha wrote...

wow cold shoulder

Nah, we just don't do a lot of hi/bye thread bumping here.  If you have something nice to say about Liara though feel free to join the conversation.

ah, used to the tali thread. we use it more like an IM than a forum board. conversations are always zooming

[Nozybidaj]

JaylaClark wrote...

But really, I don't expect Shepard to live longer than Miranda and Oriana should be able to (I presumed it could be around 200 from my take), but let's be honest, she -- again all my Sheps are 'she' -- will at least get a decent chance to raise a daughter beyond how old Liara is now, and have whole human lifetimes, plural, of happiness together.  (Maybe two or three daughters, even .  And she will get to raise them to basic maturity, which a lot of 'fathers' of asari don't get, so ...)

I don't think he'll live as long as Liara, no, but now that Shep is full of reaper tech I'm sure his life could be extended well beyond that of Miranda.  Maybe buy him an extra 100 years or so with Liara.

[jlb524]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

jlb524 wrote...


I do too!  It's hard to get a good screen shot of it b/c Shepard's head is in the way

Dangit, would've been a perfect new image for the fanclub. Actually, if I rmember right there is a pretty good shot of Liara looking downwards towards Shepard as she speaks to her to try to reinvigorate some confidence back in her. Got a screenshot of that, J?

I could get a shot of this.  When does this happen?  Is it after her mother dies?

[JaylaClark]

WilliamShatner wrote...

justinnstuff wrote...

WilliamShatner wrote...

Too many smart ass comments available... my head... it's going too... explode!

LOL, that's exactly what I was thinking. I thought the game was more streamlined, but there was too much RPG taken out of it to get there. I won't get into that though, this thread is about Liara 

Sadly Liara is one of the primary victims of the "redefined Mass Effect experience".

On the one hand, true (though I think she's more the victim of 'do we really want to go this direction? ... crap, we don't and there's not enough time to re-do it all because EA's moved us up!'), but I still like the game as it is... well, that is to say I like how the game plays.  And I really did like how they eliminated the grinding tendency.  I just think characters need more powers, but in general the game is balanced.  (Though again, <forum_voice> MOAR LILI PLEEZ!!!</forum_voice>.)

[morrie23]

Woah, this thread is moving quickly today (or tonight for me)! I see Kasumi has been announced, BioWare are really pumping out the DLC, hammerhead at by the end of March, Kasumi at the start of April. Hopefully they might be more talkative about the Liara DLC after this and the comic.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

I hope you guys dont mind me showing some support for our favorite blue scientist.

[Angelraid]

Nozybidaj wrote...

JaylaClark wrote...

But really, I don't expect Shepard to live longer than Miranda and Oriana should be able to (I presumed it could be around 200 from my take), but let's be honest, she -- again all my Sheps are 'she' -- will at least get a decent chance to raise a daughter beyond how old Liara is now, and have whole human lifetimes, plural, of happiness together.  (Maybe two or three daughters, even .  And she will get to raise them to basic maturity, which a lot of 'fathers' of asari don't get, so ...)

I don't think he'll live as long as Liara, no, but now that Shep is full of reaper tech I'm sure his life could be extended well beyond that of Miranda.  Maybe buy him an extra 100 years or so with Liara.

i dont think that the cybernetics are reaper tech, although it is still possible that they may extend his life expactancy. or the opposite due to all the truama from dying. hard to say.