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Now I´m wondering if Benezia had no other child until she was in Matriarch state.



About Liara after Shepard dies if of old age. She has around 3/4 of her natural life left. That´s a lot to be alone. Finding someone who can measure up to Shepard in anything would be very difficult though.

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Nerevar-as wrote...

Now I´m wondering if Benezia had no other child until she was in Matriarch state.

About Liara after Shepard dies if of old age. She has around 3/4 of her natural life left. That´s a lot to be alone. Finding someone who can measure up to Shepard in anything would be very difficult though.


KaneLam, a writer on FF.net, wrote about this topic briefly in "The Distance Between Two Stars", a fanfiction you should take caution in reading if you're emotionally sensitive to mushy stuff.  He writes that Liara did take several more bondmates after Shepard passed, but none of them truly meant as much to her as Shepard did.

I get choked up just typing about it.  :crying:

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JamieCOTC wrote...

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This is something ive thought about but her goes: What would you name you and Liara's daughter?

Would you go for an asari name, a human name, something inbetween, or completely different? Im sure some of you must have some good ides.

Some ideas off the top of my head:

Thanna
(because my cousin is named Hanna, just a slight modification)

Benezia (to honor liara's mother)

Liara Jr.(which im sure many have thought of)


What would you name you and Liara's daughter? come on I know some of you must have thought about it ;P
Would you go for an asari name, a human name, something inbetween, or completely different? Im sure some of you must have some good ideas swimming around in that noggin of your's, why not share them? :)


Kaidlyn. (modification of Kaiden, who died on Virmire in my canon game) 





I like Tia for some reason.

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Just a quick question. Does anyone know of a video that shows what happens if you choose someone else over Liara? I'm just curious to see the scene and I can't find it.

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For Shepard & Liara's child, I'd choose a human name that fits in to the asari naming scheme. I think that's a fair compromise.

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Nerevar-as wrote...

About Liara after Shepard dies if of old age. She has around 3/4 of her natural life left. That´s a lot to be alone. Finding someone who can measure up to Shepard in anything would be very difficult though.

Erm... in my opinion Shepard... can't die because of old age, why ? She/He is a Cyborg as we can see it in Project Overlord and this reminds me of Ghost in the Shell a bit.
But it's just my theory.

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if you are asking about the normandy scene from LOTSB dlc then you talk to her about how you are fighting for who ever you romanced :D its really cute

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yorkj86 wrote...

Nerevar-as wrote...

Now I´m wondering if Benezia had no other child until she was in Matriarch state.

About Liara after Shepard dies if of old age. She has around 3/4 of her natural life left. That´s a lot to be alone. Finding someone who can measure up to Shepard in anything would be very difficult though.


KaneLam, a writer on FF.net, wrote about this topic briefly in "The Distance Between Two Stars", a fanfiction you should take caution in reading if you're emotionally sensitive to mushy stuff.  He writes that Liara did take several more bondmates after Shepard passed, but none of them truly meant as much to her as Shepard did.

I get choked up just typing about it.  :crying:


Yes, I love that story...I cried the entire epilogue :crying:

It was well written, though, but if you don't like that kind of stuff...

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Deturis90 wrote...

Nerevar-as wrote...

About Liara after Shepard dies if of old age. She has around 3/4 of her natural life left. That´s a lot to be alone. Finding someone who can measure up to Shepard in anything would be very difficult though.

Erm... in my opinion Shepard... can't die because of old age, why ? She/He is a Cyborg as we can see it in Project Overlord and this reminds me of Ghost in the Shell a bit.
But it's just my theory.


His organic parts will have to be continually regrown and replaced.

I think I remember reading somewhere that in the ME setting, the human brain has a hard-cap on its lifespan of 150 years.  I can't verify that, so I can't use it.  It's invalidated by what Miranda says about how long she'll live, if she meant that she'll live longer than 150 years, which is considered to be the new old age in humans.

Then, there are philosophical considerations.

I was more than convinced by Neil Gaiman's tale of Hob Gadling that immortality isn't all it's cracked up to be.

Modifié par yorkj86, 18 septembre 2010 - 10:03 .


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I can't see Shepard living that short human lifespan anymore after what Cerberus did during the Lazarus project and the subsequent cybernetic upgrades on the Normandy, there might be at most 20% of the "Original" Cmdr. Shepard left in this new body. So much of him or her is genetically modified cloned tissue and radical cutting edge cybernetics that it's difficult to call Shepard a human being. All of Shepard's muscle tissue is cybernetic, the skeleton is pumped full of cybernetic parts that render them nearly unbreakable and if they do break they regenerate in a day or two the only thing that isn't either brand new tissue or cybernetic is the brain. I think it would be a bit disappointing if BioWare just ignored what they did to Shepard and try to pretend everything is the way it was in ME1 when Shepard was just a "regular" human being not a half machine cyborg super soldier with bullet proof skin and enough strength to punch a hold in a battle tank.

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I don't think that Shepard's that artificial.  We see a lot of flesh and bone in the cinematic, with cybernetics apparently used to fill in the parts that couldn't be regrown.  Then, there's the matter of the player not having to choose implants like Heavy Skin Weave.

If I had a choice, from a roleplaying perspective, my Shepard wouldn't live that much longer than the average human.

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Shepard will indeed live longer than the average human, but I don't see her living as long as Liara, not even close. There's something special about asari physiology and with cellular regeneration that allows them to live a lot longer than humans. Shepard will never have this.

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yorkj86 wrote...

I don't think that Shepard's that artificial.  We see a lot of flesh and bone in the cinematic, with cybernetics apparently used to fill in the parts that couldn't be regrown.  Then, there's the matter of the player not having to choose implants like Heavy Skin Weave.

If I had a choice, from a roleplaying perspective, my Shepard wouldn't live that much longer than the average human.

If Shepard has a Cyberbrain thing or something like that he/she can live forever other parts of flesh can be easily replaced by cybernetics, nano technology, implats etc.
I'm not going to complain if Shepard can live like asari :)
BioWare should give us more info about Shepard brain :|

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Deturis90 wrote...

If Shepard has a Cyberbrain thing or something like that he/she can live forever other parts of flesh can be easily replaced by cybernetics, nano technology, implats etc.
I'm not going to complain if Shepard can live like asari :)
BioWare should give us more info about Shepard brain :|


But would he want to live for so long?

I don't know why Bioware ignores the topic of transhumanism.   I guess they think it's better being left to the "Deus Ex" games.

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The problem for me is just that BioWare for whatever reason thought it 100% necessary to kill Shepard, even going as far as to have Shepard re-enter a planetary atmosphere and impact the ground like meteor. It then required them to push the "science" of their universe to the absolute limit, it would have been much easier if Shepard didn't die in ME2 and if renegades didn't glow in the damn dark. I'm nothing saying Shepard will outlive Liara, as jib mentioned humans don't have the same type of cellular regeneration capabilities so while Shepard's cellular regenerative abilities are greater than any human being and has less living tissue to regenerate the faster metabolic rate of humans will catch up eventually. How that figures into overall life expectancy isn't clear, in fact the subject of what was done to Shepard by Cerberus is generally ignored in the series as everyone just seems to act like Shepard is exactly the same. The only person who really seems to grasp what was done to Shepard is The Illusive Man since he footed the insane bill for the project.

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yorkj86 wrote...

Deturis90 wrote...

If Shepard has a Cyberbrain thing or something like that he/she can live forever other parts of flesh can be easily replaced by cybernetics, nano technology, implats etc.
I'm not going to complain if Shepard can live like asari :)
BioWare should give us more info about Shepard brain :|


But would he want to live for so long?

I don't know why Bioware ignores the topic of transhumanism.   I guess they think it's better being left to the "Deus Ex" games.


Why not? Living with Liara and the childrens isn't a good reason, after saving the universe? We don't know what BioWare has planned, but i'm sure that Shepard will have a different end for every LI.

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adneate wrote...

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Maybe BioWare gave us a hint in Project Overlord when 'David' hacked into Shepard ... brain ?
BW should give us a big explanation in ME3 !

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Why not? Living with Liara and the childrens isn't a good reason, after saving the universe? We don't know what BioWare has planned, but i'm sure that Shepard will have a different end for every LI.


Shepard will love Liara, and their children, either way.

I think it fits well in to longview, and Liara's enjoyment of her time with Shepard, that he/she won't live nearly as long as she wil.  It may not be a popular view, but I think it's tragically beautiful.

Modifié par yorkj86, 18 septembre 2010 - 10:40 .


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I think Shepard is actually around 20% cyborg, not the other way round. I did play a femShep Infiltrator trying to use Motoko from Ghost in the Shell as model. ME2 was great to continue with her. Cyborg, Hacking & Invisibility Cloak.

There are a few species IRL that don´t age, but I don´t think the ME universe has discovered how to transplant that to humans, or any indication that Cerberus, who would ignore the ME laws against that, had used that on Shepard.



How high was gravity in the planet Shepard died? I think that he stayed in orbit and the N7 helmet was a spare makes more sense than hitting ground.

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Deturis90 wrote...

Maybe BioWare gave us a hint in Project Overlord when 'David' hacked into Shepard ... brain ?
BW should give us a big explanation in ME3 !


Since Shepard could be "hacked" that implies a greater deal of synthetic parts in Shepard's brain and central nervous system than they even initially admitted to. I agree I really want some answers to this stuff, just how synthetic is Shepard?

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Someone can provide me some ME1 Liara pics? I would like to have one of the Flux dance, one of the pre-ilos kiss missed because of Joker, and other funny moments if it's possible. The resolution should be 1920x1080 or more.

Thank you very much:lol:

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If anyone's interested go back to ME1 where Shepard asks Liara about Asari outliving their mates. Liara is pretty clear on how Asari deal with it. It's really ok that Shepard won't live as long as Liara. What's important is what they do with the time that they have. That's what really counts. If they share a deep and meaningful love for 50 years then they've gotten more out of life than most and Liara will carry with her the memory of that for the rest of her days. It's bittersweet I know but that's the way it works and it's ok.

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ValerioN7 wrote...

Someone can provide me some ME1 Liara pics? I would like to have one of the Flux dance, one of the pre-ilos kiss missed because of Joker, and other funny moments if it's possible. The resolution should be 1920x1080 or more.

Thank you very much:lol:


I have some, but not at that resolution.

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jlb524 wrote...

ValerioN7 wrote...

Someone can provide me some ME1 Liara pics? I would like to have one of the Flux dance, one of the pre-ilos kiss missed because of Joker, and other funny moments if it's possible. The resolution should be 1920x1080 or more.

Thank you very much:lol:


I have some, but not at that resolution.


If the width is 1600 at least, it's ok.

Thanks :)

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ValerioN7 wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

ValerioN7 wrote...

Someone can provide me some ME1 Liara pics? I would like to have one of the Flux dance, one of the pre-ilos kiss missed because of Joker, and other funny moments if it's possible. The resolution should be 1920x1080 or more.

Thank you very much:lol:


I have some, but not at that resolution.


If the width is 1600 at least, it's ok.

Thanks :)


There's some here in my photobucket album.  Just download them...they should be 1600 in width.