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[mrbeavis19]

During the demo Hudson said the DLC was “some of the best stuff we’ve done.” I agree. It's a fresh look at something within the Mass Effect universe and a different spin on what can be done. I couldn't get a sense of the pacing during the demo, but I could at least tell the dialogue and action won't leave you feeling blue. Look for it in April. -taken from some destructoid article



"feeling blue"? Seriously? I get the feeling that's either some hint at what is to come ...or a sarcastic stab at us >:|

[Crimmsonwind]

mrbeavis19 wrote...

During the demo Hudson said the DLC was “some of the best stuff we’ve done.” I agree. It's a fresh look at something within the Mass Effect universe and a different spin on what can be done. I couldn't get a sense of the pacing during the demo, but I could at least tell the dialogue and action won't leave you feeling blue. Look for it in April. -taken from some destructoid article

"feeling blue"? Seriously? I get the feeling that's either some hint at what is to come ...or a sarcastic stab at us >:|

Demo? What Demo?!  Info plz.  *happy fangirl face*

[mrbeavis19]

Oh **** lol I'm sorry I didn't specify. Talking about a demo that Hudson did for the Kasumi DLC at the GDC. No Liara demo

[Crimmsonwind]

mrbeavis19 wrote...

Oh **** lol I'm sorry I didn't specify. Talking about a demo that Hudson did for the Kasumi DLC at the GDC. No Liara demo

Ah, gotcha. Lol.

That "feeling blue" line is pretty suspicious, though. Either they're trying to mess with us, or they're giving us hope. It's really hard to tell which though XD My guess is that the extent of any Liara bits involved in a Kasumi DLC, if any, would be "Oh hai Shepard you can find Kasumi here. Bai now."

Modifié par Crimmsonwind, 12 mars 2010 - 05:12 .

[mrbeavis19]

Pfft, right? I hope she just isn't brought into it. They gotta do it right, or not at all. I don't think I could sit through another one of those robotic and completely emotionless conversations...although...oh god...I heard some ad thing about Kasumi while I was on...Illium o_o

[JPfanner]

Yeled wrote...

The issue would be a femshep marrying Liara. Gay marriage and everything. Throw in kids and you'd have a real ****storm.

It has been done before in games though, at least the gay marriage. One of my all time favorite video game moments is the lesbian shotgun wedding in Fallout 2. The conversations you can have with the priest and Mrs. Bishop about your wife are pretty amusing. I actually enjoyed adventuring with my wife and she was with me the whole game. I'm pretty sure male characters had the same sex marriage option as well, but I never played a male and am too lazy to look it up.



From the context of in game, and an asari/human long term relationship would be totally normal from an asari standpoint; in addition to their open attitude towards other races, asari are attracted to each other and human females would be a really hot item to them if you think about it. An asari can do all the things she naturally wants to, including having children, without the asari social stigma of the pureblood issue. I'm sure that the asari had strippers and strip clubs long before they ever left their home planet : )



I definitely think that asari/human pairings in general would be the most socially acceptable from a human standpoint; admittedly there would be some stigma for humans "wasting" themselves on asari, but that attitude isn't anything new and you see it now with gay and interracial relationships. There will always be some segment of humanity that disagrees with anything, it is just the way we are.



It doesn't matter what makes sense in the game though if Bioware decides not to go that route with resolving the relationships. It would be totally hypocritcal and against the established Mass Effect universe though to not include a canonical acceptable Liara/Femshep marriage, but include canonical unusual and stigmatized marriages with Tali/Maleshep, Garrus/Femshep, and Thane/Femshep.

[Little Mama]

WTF
(Here i go to bed for a few hours and comes back to 100! new pages to read through... *sig*)

oups my misstake.. was only 5 or so...

Modifié par Little Mama, 12 mars 2010 - 08:09 .

[JaylaClark]

JPfanner wrote...

Yeled wrote...
The issue would be a femshep marrying Liara. Gay marriage and everything. Throw in kids and you'd have a real ****storm.

It has been done before in games though, at least the gay marriage. One of my all time favorite video game moments is the lesbian shotgun wedding in Fallout 2. The conversations you can have with the priest and Mrs. Bishop about your wife are pretty amusing. I actually enjoyed adventuring with my wife and she was with me the whole game. I'm pretty sure male characters had the same sex marriage option as well, but I never played a male and am too lazy to look it up.

From the context of in game, and an asari/human long term relationship would be totally normal from an asari standpoint; in addition to their open attitude towards other races, asari are attracted to each other and human females would be a really hot item to them if you think about it. An asari can do all the things she naturally wants to, including having children, without the asari social stigma of the pureblood issue. I'm sure that the asari had strippers and strip clubs long before they ever left their home planet : )

I definitely think that asari/human pairings in general would be the most socially acceptable from a human standpoint; admittedly there would be some stigma for humans "wasting" themselves on asari, but that attitude isn't anything new and you see it now with gay and interracial relationships. There will always be some segment of humanity that disagrees with anything, it is just the way we are.

It doesn't matter what makes sense in the game though if Bioware decides not to go that route with resolving the relationships. It would be totally hypocritcal and against the established Mass Effect universe though to not include a canonical acceptable Liara/Femshep marriage, but include canonical unusual and stigmatized marriages with Tali/Maleshep, Garrus/Femshep, and Thane/Femshep.

Agreed, and I do like to point out (on the Same-Sex Romance page, and til I'm bluer in the face than my blueberry is <_<) that this company went to the trouble of creating an entire world where the main character, as a female, can discuss having a female companion up to her room later that night, in front of her parents, brother, sister-in-law and nephew, and I think exactly one eye is batted.  (Which is a DA:O spoiler out of place, but kind of vague, so I don't think there's a problem with it.)  It's stated in the DA wiki that this is typical, that there is no stigma attached by nearly the entirety of the populations of the known world, which is such a strong statement that I think it's made on purpose, because someone at EA, BioWare, or both, thought it was an 'anvil worth dropping', to again use a TvTropes line.

How this would apply to Mass Effect's universe, as analyzed both by internal logic and the 'meta'-logic of the overlying corporations ... well, it's no big stretch to suggest that the vast majority of humanity would have no problem with a simple lesbian relationship -- or gay relationship at that, though that's currently irrelevant.  All we'd have to do is run a trend line through the growth of acceptance of gay relationships (which is exponential since the 60's -- things have gotten so far even from when my younger sibling's high school had co-homecoming kings over a decade ago). 
Now, interspecies relationships might still logically have a stigma of sorts... but I personally doubt that EA would play that up for a second, given their tendency shown with not only DA:O but also the Sims series.  (As in I married a representation of my SLgf in Sims 3 and it was called 'marriage'.)  So I daresay that even Khalisa bin-Jalani wouldn't give Shepard any crap about marrying a non-human, at least not in the conventional sense.  (Maybe some sort of 'biological clock' jab -- which, knowing her, my Shep would follow that jab with a hook.  Nah, Alyna's more of a straight-puncher. )

[Chuvvy]

I'll drop my support even though it's unnecessary.

[Chuvvy]

Or her being benezia's daughter or her involvement with the shadow broker.

[Noxis6]

I dont think that would happen in case of a human/asari relationship,since they seem fairly common,of course the media in the ME universe could make something out of Liaras background being the daugther of a traitor and her new job.

Imo the biggest outcry in alliance would come from a Shep/Garrus or Shep/Tali relationship since Quarians seem to be stigmatised in general and Turians well there was the stuff with the first conctact war.

[KainrycKarr]

Friendly neighborhood /bump.

[JaylaClark]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

If Liara's in your party then wouldn't it be awesome if the pair of you absolutely destroyed her argument together, and completely tore her to pieces? That I'd love to see!

Yeah... I assume you're talking metaphorically, for us Paragon Sheps.  (As in another case of ... what does she  call it, 'getting bullrushed' off her own show?)  And, maybe for us Renegades as well, as ripping a reporter into little tiny bits would probably be a bad idea.  Though fun.

[Little Mama]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

I have actually heard that be mooted for what may happen to Liara in ME3. Renegades will choose not to comfort her and instead encourage her to utilise this badass facade, in a way turning her into the perfect foil for RenegadeShep, whereas Paragons will comfort and console her, encourage her to re-embrace her compassionate, caring personality and make her happy again. It's interesting how they could handle this.

I hope they dont...
My Shep is renegade but LOVES his kind, compassionating Liara...  

[AndroLeonidas]

Freindly bump for the Goddess!!