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[Movodor]

As much as I like this particular asari these pyramid quotes are starting to take on the appearance of elevated posters on a wall.

I like that last one, though. Haven't seen many of Liara at the very moment of mind-melding. More horrifying than appealing to some, I guess.

[morrie23]

justinnstuff wrote...

maikanix wrote...
I'm glad this is so popular. lol
But as for it being 'cropped', that's how it is in the game. It's part of the love scene. The only thing I cut was my mediocre shepard's face looking at her in the same way.

It's an awesome pic. I'll be using it in the next sig with our favorite quote "...because I couldn't let you go". I think it fits perfectly. Thanks 

It is indeed an awesome pic, I look forward to the new sig.

PS. The pic of when Liara eyes turn black... swoon.

[Nozybidaj]

bjdbwea wrote...

Keep the pictures coming, but let's continue the discussions too.

In my opinion ME 2 needed significantly more development time, to make it a game at least on par with its predecessor. I was just thinking: Could it be that this was the plan initially, that the game always should've been released after those damn comics? Maybe they were told at some point to release the game much earlier, stranger things have happened. Would explain a lot of the shortcomings (including the non-inclusion of the vehicle). But it could also explain, beyond the obvious time constraint, why the Liara scene was so botched. Because they didn't know how the comics would play out and had to keep everything vague? Or because they did know, but didn't want to put too much information in the game, as to not discourage people from buying the comics too?

Again I ask: Why, oh why, didn't they make Tali the star of their comics? Judging from these forums, they could've made much more money this way, no? Or maybe they know that outside this small forum world, a character like Liara is more interesting and marketable than a character like Tali. Then the question would of course be, why they didn't let that knowledge influence the game itself. Too bad the developers don't grace us with their presence anymore. At least we know they'll be back when ME 3 is around the corner, though of course still not to answer to any criticism.

In any case, I take it you who buy those comics will inform those of us, who refuse to buy comics to learn about information that HAD to be available in-game, about what the writers in their wisdom have forced upon Liara?

I think the game may have been pushed up.  It doesn't make much sense for the comic to continue past the game's launch. and I do think the reunion was so incredibly poor because they didn't want to spoil the comic (which is dumb considering how small a percentage of people playing the game know there even is a comic).  There are a lot of places in ME2 that needed more development, glaringly so in some places, it is likely they got something close enough to finished to ship and that was it.

That said, even with the way things turned out, no I am glad it was Liara instead of Tali going after Shep.  Even if it had meant Tali got the crummy cameo and Liara had a nice role in ME2 instead, I like the fact that Liara was the one that cared about Shep enough to go after him.  They just completely botched it in game.  I have some minimal hope that the comic won't botch things further.

As for the devs?  I dunno that their lack of presence is much of a mystery.  They have to know by now had badly some of these things were done.  What could they do or say at this point to make anyone happy "Yeah, sorry bout that"?  I think anything they say at this point would only incite near rioting from the Liara fans, and well deserved rioting too.  I don't think they'll say anything till they have something good they can say to try and placate us.

Or we could all be wrong and their is no Liara Expansion on the way and they'll just never say anything about it.

[Yeled]

Nozybidaj wrote...

That said, even with the way things turned out, no I am glad it was Liara instead of Tali going after Shep.  Even if it had meant Tali got the crummy cameo and Liara had a nice role in ME2 instead, I like the fact that Liara was the one that cared about Shep enough to go after him.  They just completely botched it in game.  I have some minimal hope that the comic won't botch things further.

Or we could all be wrong and their is no Liara Expansion on the way and they'll just never say anything about it.

Remember, Tali could be dead in ME3.  That's going to have a profound effect on what role she can play in the next game.  Bioware has shown they aren't going to break the bank developing scenes for a character many players aren't even going to see.  I think there is a decent chance none of the ME2 squadmates will be squadmates in ME3.

Of all the squadmates in either game, only Liara is definitely still alive for ME3 (unless they kill her off going after the SB in dlc).  And Liara plays an extremely important role in the story whether you romanced her or not.  I have a feeling we're going to be seeing a lot more of her down the road.

[jbauck]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...
Liara was given her role in the comics and recovering Shepard's body because, despite what some will tell you, Liara is a major character in the trilogy and is probably the most important squaddie across the two games. The devs have probably always intended her to be a major character, and it shows. We just have to wait for the Liara DLC so that ME2 feels "complete".

Also, like Nozy said, I'm glad it's Liara that they gave the comic role to, as it means that she's the important squadmate who cares enough for Shepard to find his/her body. It expands on her vital and important role in the trilogy's story.

Yes!  And this is why I feel nice and happy and hopeful today (well, that and all the pretty, pretty pictures ... and my BG 4-in-1 pack will be arriving today).  Liara is a vital character in ways that every single other squaddie just isn't.  I'd "neener", except that would be mean, and I don't hate the other characters ... it's just that Liara is my favorite, and clearly more important to the canon ME universe than everyone but Shepard.  Maybe the argument could be made that Miranda is important, because she ran the Lazarus Project - but she could also die in ME2, so ... it's not like she can have a vital role in ME3.

Really, even though Liara is ... behaving very oddly ... in ME2, part of me would like Liara to be romancable in ME3 whether Shep romanced her in ME1 or not.  I think poor Shep should have the opportunity to see the error of his/her ways and realize that Liara is the only one who never gave up on him/her, and dump anyone they've ever been with in ME1/ME2 to get with Liara instead.  But then again, part of me wants to slap any Shepard that didn't realize this back in ME1 for being so silly.  Bad Shepard!  No Asari Archaeologist For You!

[bjdbwea]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Also, like Nozy said, I'm glad it's Liara that they gave the comic role to, as it means that she's the important squadmate who cares enough for Shepard to find his/her body. It expands on her vital and important role in the trilogy's story.

Hmm... but what do we actually have from this, if she doesn't play that role in the game? I care about Liara because she makes my game more interesting. That is the important role she has to play, at least as long as BioWare doesn't manage to create other companions that are as interesting, well designed and implemented, which they failed to accomplish in ME 2.

Modifié par bjdbwea, 23 février 2010 - 05:47 .

[Nozybidaj]

bjdbwea wrote...

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Also, like Nozy said, I'm glad it's Liara that they gave the comic role to, as it means that she's the important squadmate who cares enough for Shepard to find his/her body. It expands on her vital and important role in the trilogy's story.

Hmm... but what do we actually have from this, if she doesn't play that role in the game? I care about Liara because she makes my game more interesting. That is the important role she has to play, at least as long as BioWare doesn't manage to create other companions that are as interesting, well designed and implemented, which they failed to accomplish in ME 2.

This as well.  While I appreciate her role in the comic her absence from ME2 hurt the game in a lot of ways (at least for me).  The whole game was less interesting and less cohesive for me.  For my main Shepards they basically cut down the trilogy to two games.  I could completely not play ME2 at this point and not miss a single thing.

While she may have been important enough to put into the comic she apparently wasn't important enough to put in the game.

This isn't an oversight I am just going to give BW a free pass on.  It's time for them to put up or shut up about the ME1 LI's importance and roles in the trilogy.  Even so it is still disappointing they have to try and correct these mistakes with DLC/expansions instead of being capable enough story tellers to have included it in the core game.

[Nozybidaj]

justinnstuff wrote...

bjdbwea wrote...

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Also, like Nozy said, I'm glad it's Liara that they gave the comic role to, as it means that she's the important squadmate who cares enough for Shepard to find his/her body. It expands on her vital and important role in the trilogy's story.

Hmm... but what do we actually have from this, if she doesn't play that role in the game? I care about Liara because she makes my game more interesting. That is the important role she has to play, at least as long as BioWare doesn't manage to create other companions that are as interesting, well designed and implemented, which they failed to accomplish in ME 2.

You get a story that no other character has. The rest of the crew has no story presented in the 2 years Shepard has been gone. She plays a huge role in the trilogy and in Shepard's life. Shepard wouldn't have a life if the story in the comic never came about.

If you read the comics, sure I suppose you could deduce that.  From playing the game though?

What about new players, in two years when ME3 comes around are they going to care at all that this crazy chick they met on Illium is now a squad memeber or are they going to be clamoring for the likes of Aria and Kal'Reegar to be squadmates?  

While the old fans may be able to at least understand if not appreciate the role Liara was given in ME2 new folks have not had any sort of introduction to the character at all.  Does this mean we are going to get 're-introduced' to these characters again in ME3 or are is it an indication of their importance to the story of the finale?

BW missed their golden oppotunity here and no amount of DLC or expansions is going to make up for that.

[WilliamShatner]

maikanix wrote...

I always thought that photograph looked cheap.  I think whoever was responsible just google imaged Liara and picked one from there. 

Awfully cheap not to make up a new picture.  Perhaps one of Liara and Shepard together.

[jbauck]

WilliamShatner wrote...

maikanix wrote...

I always thought that photograph looked cheap.  I think whoever was responsible just google imaged Liara and picked one from there. 

Awfully cheap not to make up a new picture.  Perhaps one of Liara and Shepard together.

Hmph.  Here's hoping that picture gets replaced with your wedding photo about halfway through ME3.  Just sayin'.

[WilliamShatner]

justinnstuff wrote...

WilliamShatner wrote...

I always thought that photograph looked cheap.  I think whoever was responsible just google imaged Liara and picked one from there. 

Awfully cheap not to make up a new picture.  Perhaps one of Liara and Shepard together.

The rosy cheeks aren't so bad. I would have liked a pic of them together though. That would have been much better.

Is that an image from ME1?  I'm pretty sure I saw it prior to ME2.  Again, I think the devs just googled Liara and stole someone's screenshot of her.

Modifié par WilliamShatner, 23 février 2010 - 06:20 .

[Marcin K]

maikanix wrote...

 I also have the one where he eyes go black in that scene

I am terrified to see that this thread is going into self-doom cycle [for ex. disregarding Liara's role at some point, but list can go on long], so i decided to make desperate interruption and quote-post this outstanding-great picture so we all should feel better [and most important not so-apocalypse-farseeing anymore]...
so....
DOCTOR SAYS: do you feel better and happier now?

Modifié par Marcin R, 23 février 2010 - 06:23 .

[Octorox]

 If she changes her tune, gets out of herself, and accepts that Iv'e moved on then yeah. I loved her in ME1 but she just pissed me off in ME2

[Movodor]

WilliamShatner wrote...

maikanix wrote...


<snip>

I always thought that photograph looked cheap.  I think whoever was responsible just google imaged Liara and picked one from there. 

Awfully cheap not to make up a new picture.  Perhaps one of Liara and Shepard together.

It's the same one from the codex entry on asari, as far as I know.
so -shepard- cut and pasted from extranet-google

[WilliamShatner]

Actually to hell with the picture. This is the future! Why doesn't Shepard have some nifty videoframe of Liara?



Having Shepard sit down and look at some happy memories with their ME1 LIs would have been a much better scene before the Omega 4 jump.

[Marcin K]

justinnstuff wrote...


I . I've read a few of the other fan threads for other characters and they are a lot more upbeat. I wish ours could have a bit more high notes too. Pics like that really help out. Keep up the good work. 

thanks, i just want to point out that i cannot accomplish this task alone myself, so some help [as for ex. when i am offline] would be seen nice and very appreciated  but i finish this post as it starts to ride offtopic... 

Modifié par Marcin R, 23 février 2010 - 06:34 .

[Dinkamus_Littlelog]

Movodor wrote...

It's the same one from the codex entry on asari, as far as I know.
so -shepard- cut and pasted from extranet-google

Its been altered slightly. Her cheeks have been made pink for some reason, and her mouth has been turned into a slight smile.

But yeah, its basically a slightly touched up Noveria screenshot of Liara.

Modifié par Dinkamus_Littlelog, 23 février 2010 - 06:36 .

[Jax Sparrow]

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