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[JPfanner]

yorkj86 wrote...
Would the phenotypes of an Asari daughter be predictable through this process, or is it entirely random?  A child from two humans will always look like its parents in some capacity, but can the same be said of an Asari/Asari or Asari/non-Asari pairing?

The expressions will fall into a defined range depending on the "father".  Things like the fact that asari always seem able to recognize the "father" of another asari, that two asari always produce a pureblood, and that within the game there are recognizable asari variations support that.  The randomization during melding is based on the neural composition of both partners, so when they explore the genetic diversity of other species, it is really just how that genetic diversity is expressed neurally in the melding.  Like each species would have their own unique signal.
I also think that asari can't meld with just anything for reproduction, it has to be sentient.  So there is a threshold of neural complexity required for a parthogenic joining at least.  And I say that because the codex states that the asari didn't discover they could do that with other species until they left their homeworld.  And you know at some point, some asari were going to be, ah, exploring boundaries before they left their own world.
Since each daughter gets half her genes unmodified from her mother, and the other half from her mother but variated by the melding, asari daughters are genetically much closer to their mothers than other species.  The only thing seperating them from being clone daughters is the fact that one set of the genes is being randomized by melding.  So a daughter will resemble her mother with the minor differences caused by the melding.  So Morinth being able to impersonate Samara isn't that odd at all, especially since both are purebloods.
The oldest possible human variated asari would be like 27 and even that is stretching it.  Probably closer to 25 or 24, given First Contact is in 2157 and ME2 in 2185.  The oldest would still be almost twenty years away from puberty, given that Morinth ran off when she reached it at 40.  From what we've seen so far, the differences would probably be limited to skin, eye, and crest color.  Humans don't really have any distinctive head features apart from ears and hair.  If asari can reproduce with hanar and still look effectively like any other asari apart from cosmetic differences, then I don't see there being a huge variation with humans.

Modifié par JPfanner, 20 mars 2010 - 03:48 .

[JPfanner]

Yeah, randomized is really the wrong word for what happens unless it is qualified to something like "randomized within a boundary of expressions". It implies a lot more change than what really happens. They're just variated from what they would be without the melding, which would be the same as the mother. Without the variation each daughter would be a clone daughter of the mother.

The variation caused by the "father" has a predictable range depending on the species. The influence of the father could be almost expressed as an environmental influence on the daughter. It affects the daughter in predictable ways, just at conception rather than during development.

If the set of genes that aren't variated by melding are always passed along to daughters then that would make things less complicated. If they were maintaining that same set throughout generations that would easily explain the pureblood expression, because an asari/asari pairing would always vary the melding set towards the "default" non-varied set which would be the baseline asari genetics. The genetic difference between any two asari would based on the meld set.

In that case, the AY spectrum asari could be a situation similar to inbreeding defects in humans where the melding set is too close to the baseline set since it affects purebloods. Or it could be an entirely different condition, I'm just thinking out loud here with that really.

[jlb524]

Picture day!







Picture day!!!

[IndigoWolfe]

yorkj86 wrote...

Also, this makes me wonder if a non-Pureblood Asari has a Pureblood child with another Asari, if the genetic diversity of the non-Pureblood Asari is discarded in the child.

Not entirely so, I think. I don't know if I'm saying this right, but perhaps the unique crest patterns (if it has that effect) and maybe eye color, but I think there would still be at least a small bit of resemblance --or simple difference from the mother-- taken from the father. While the child would still be Pureblood, inter-asari genetic diversity would still remain in some form.

Modifié par IndigoWolfe, 20 mars 2010 - 05:27 .

[Larask]

kaskouka wrote...

Liara and my Amanda posing for a picture   :

Aww! I LOVE IT!!!!!!! Super cute! <3:wub:

[Dinkamus_Littlelog]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...



Yay! Thanks J, been looking forward to when you'd post some new Liara pictures. Thanks!

Liara looks great in those, love the first one from ME2.

If we're talking about the discrimination of asari born of two asari mating, did anyone else get extremely pissed off on Liara's behalf when you heard those two asari on Illium say all those vile and hateful things about them? It was horrible, and I imagined how Liara would react if she were to hear them.

Yeah, nice pics J.

As for those asari, yeah, it got me pretty mad, and I wish you could have said something. Though I like to think I only got as mad as Liara would towards that asari who talks about her krogan boyfriend, and how its not like dating a human where you stick it out for a century until they die. I like to imagine Liara losing her cool at that, and snapping at her for being so insensitive.

[bjdbwea]

Good thing you quoted that picture from kaskouka again. It's really well done.