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[jlb524]

Asheer_Khan wrote...

As much as i want to believe in that (for the sake of those who lost thier Sheps in that base) devs stated pretty harsh and clear in many interviews.
"IF Shepard die in Base then is "game over" for her/him and no Me 3 import will be possible because Shep will be flaged as irreversable dead":innocent:.
They pulled once stunt whit "killing" Shepard so and shackled players hands whit unrejectable work for Cerberus so i doubt that they will try again whit similar stuff...

Beside to loose Shepard in C-Base required perhaps more "work" than keep her/him safe because to get her/him killed you need practicly wiped out whole team so nobody will be able to pull Shep back to Normandy.

I would guess that pretty much every ME2 player was able to keep their 'canon' Shepard alive in the Collector Base.  I think some people possibly took one of their 'throwaway' Shepard characters and did the 'Shepard dies' ending just to see it.  I have no idea why people would purposely kill off their main Shepard, though, as this character can no longer be imported into ME3.  Like you mentioned, you have to try hard to get this ending, unless you are a player that just rushed through the game and didn't pay attention.

[bjdbwea]

Kind of off-topic, but again we have precedence in Awakening, where you actually can import a dead PC after all. Don't know if or how they explain it, stopped caring about the expansion. But just because they say something now, doesn't mean it'll be that way. A lesson we perhaps had to learn better than everyone else.

[Unata]

New page! Thought I toss in some humor



I mean really DUH!

[Unata]

bjdbwea wrote...

Kind of off-topic, but again we have precedence in Awakening, where you actually can import a dead PC after all. Don't know if or how they explain it, stopped caring about the expansion. But just because they say something now, doesn't mean it'll be that way. A lesson we perhaps had to learn better than everyone else.

Considering the nature of DA:O I can imagine a zombie PC being brought back LOL, that would be a hoot eh? but would sorta kill any romance with anything let alone anyone alive..

[Unata]

Somebody1003 wrote...

I actually did once respong negatively to her when she asked this.

Was so sad, Shepard acts like such a d*ck and says something like "We are heading into the eye of the storm and you want to do this now!?". Even if you continue, and then flat out say no she will be nice, but leave upset.

You have more quads then I do, I can't bare to make Liara sad for any reason.

I was pondering something earlier, when Benezia was killed and your back on ship talking to Liara about it, there is no option to hug her like you can with Tali in ME2, it was such a nice touch to show compasion for anothers loss and you know you wanted to in ME1, wonder why they never had that option, would have fit.

[Marcin K]

Asheer_Khan wrote...

Unata wrote...

Asheer_Khan wrote...

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Asheer_Khan wrote...

Maybe Liara/Feron romance could be an option in situation when she's not Shepard's love (for example Shep goes whit Ash or Carth) but in case when Lili is Shep sweetheart they definitive on the strict friendship level.
I think Lili could be worried about him because (taking aside for who he work) he was the only one who actually (more or less) help her to recover Shepard's body when rest of the old team turned (?) thier back to her.

And for Lili DLC... i seriously hope that BW don't screw us out... or i will be "very, very unhappy".

Can't see BioWare doing this now. I thought they had the perfect opportunity to do something similar in ME1, where if you romance Liara then Ashley and Kaidan begin to form a relationship together, and then you've have a brilliantly dramatic scene where they're begging Shepard to save each other's life on Virmire. That would've been excellent.

I really don't think they're going to have Liara romance anyone but Shepard really, as I think they may make Liara a romance option for new Shepards in ME3. Likewise with Ashley or Kaidan, they will return as LIs for new Shepards. Consequently, they're going to want to keep Liara, Ashley and Kaidan single.

In case of ME 1 i don't think that Bioware never expect that those romances could have any serious impact within community and that's why they didn't "upgrade" possibility for non romanced "party"  (aka Ash+Kaidan) to form own emotional bond and making Virmire even more depresing experience:(...

Whole concept of keeping Lili out of core ME 2 events was illogical as i ponted early because of making Shepard "killable" during S - mission because that put in general question her whole effort to bring Shepard back to life only to lost him/her again in that freaking base???... furthermore if i was able to pull everybody safely out of that base then i would NOT BE ABLE to keep Lili safe whole time???... come on BW:blink:... have more trust in us.

But i think (as my sis pointed too) Lili, Ash/Kaidan were "removed" from game as active party members to NOT confused game newcomers and were replaced by such characters like Zaaed (good fire support asset but i am sure Ash could beat crap from him in long run.), Samara as Lili replacement in party... and fact that devs almost "forcing" PC to start another romance whit those new characters made me so furious.... so for me fact that paramour achievement is gray in ALL my ME 2 have for me same high value as "No one left behind" achievement" because Lili :wub:will remain as my only one Love option in ME <3 .

Since Shepard has foiled death throughout ME I can see someone at Bioware coming up with yet another way for Shepard to come out of that fall from Normandy 2 during suicide mission, improbable yes, but not impossible, if they did it would have to be seriously believable  if they were to continue that line of the story, if you noticed Shepard isn't shot, carried off by mech bugs or squashed by pylons, Shepard is whole and still hollering orrrdddeeersss .

I will say this though, my trust/faith in Bioware hinges on what they do with our Liara's story line, don't much care if the rest of the galaxy gets harvested by Reapers if they mess it up.

As much as i want to believe in that (for the sake of those who lost thier Sheps in that base) devs stated pretty harsh and clear in many interviews.
"IF Shepard die in Base then is "game over" for her/him and no Me 3 import will be possible because Shep will be flaged as irreversable dead":innocent:.
They pulled once stunt whit "killing" Shepard so and shackled players hands whit unrejectable work for Cerberus so i doubt that they will try again whit similar stuff...

Beside to loose Shepard in C-Base required perhaps more "work" than keep her/him safe because to get her/him killed you need practicly wiped out whole team so nobody will be able to pull Shep back to Normandy.

and this ^^^^^
leads up to a conclusion the ME2 was darkest so-called "part" of so-called "trilogy", and the 3rd one will be epic so it's VERY VERY UNBELIEVEABLE  AND UNREALISTIC to make Shep die again. so in my opinion-that's not going to happen as quality of whole story would suffer heavily if it did period [.]
also YAY for new page-pic time:

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as for me, i go OFFLINE for night, so have a great Liara-themed night all, and cya tomorrow of course:)

Modifié par Marcin R, 21 mars 2010 - 08:44 .

[JamieCOTC]

The scene is so cold that I actually prefer to have my Shepard fight w/ Liara. At least in that respect you get some emotion.

[kaskouka]

Maybe Shepard will die in some ending (depending of some kind of choises) but it would be absurd if he dies early in the third episode as it happened Mass Effect 2.

[jlb524]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Somebody1003 wrote...

Oh I just noticed from that pic that Liara does have fingernails. I always wondered if asari had them.

I know! I keep trying to see in ME2 if she has fingernails, but the lighting makes it difficult to see. It's funny that ME2 is the first time we see Liara with her hands uncovered. The sex scene in ME1 aside, of course.

I couldn't find a clear closeup of Liara's hands in ME2, but I found one of the asari you can dance with in the Afterlife Club during Samara's loyalty mission....



She has fingernails.

[jlb524]

I do argue with Liara at some points, for reasons that JamieCOTC mentioned. I still can't pick the option to yell at her for giving my body to Cerberus though. That's too cruel.



I do pick the one option that goes something like, 'Dammit Liara, I came here to talk with you and not help you with your petty vendettas!'. I feel this line reflects my Shepard's frustrations towards Liara's cold attitude quite well. My Shepard really wants to catch up with Liara but Liara just wants her to run some errands.

[JPfanner]

It isn't Liara's fault though so I don't blame her for Bioware screwing that whole scene up. Shepard doesn't ask the obvious questions and gives impersonal answers. Both characters are just totally screwed up in the scene. Unless you want to be a total ass and spit in her face, then of course you're given the option for that. Just freaking absurd.

The game already spoils the comic, because obviously you weren't sold to the Collectors and Cerberus reanimates you. So there's really no excuse for there not being true friend dialog options, let alone lover ones.

[Unata]

JPfanner wrote...

It isn't Liara's fault though so I don't blame her for Bioware screwing that whole scene up. Shepard doesn't ask the obvious questions and gives impersonal answers. Both characters are just totally screwed up in the scene. Unless you want to be a total ass and spit in her face, then of course you're given the option for that. Just freaking absurd.
The game already spoils the comic, because obviously you weren't sold to the Collectors and Cerberus reanimates you. So there's really no excuse for there not being true friend dialog options, let alone lover ones.

I think they want you to take her mentioning that she's sure her office is bugged to heart and not get into anything that anyone else could use? atleast that's how I took it and would allow for one set of dialog options to both those that did and did not romance her.

Does seem so empty though even for "just a friend".

[jlb524]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

I must admit, I do select the option in which Shep gets a little annoyed and says something like "Can't you just speak to me, Liara?" Liara responds with something like "Don't you think I want to, Shepard?"

Yeah, I always pick that one too.

What dialogue choice results in Shepard saying that, J? And what is Liara's response to it? I can't imagine she'd take too kindly to Shepard describing it as a "petty vendetta". Jeez, it's possible to be such a moron to her in the reunion, but little chance to be warm, comforting and consoling. Particularly annoying after Liara opens up to you.

This happens after Liara askes you for help with the Observer.   Liara says something like, 'Taking down the Observer will put me closer to the Shadow Broker.  I could use your help.'   Shepard has two dialog choices after this, the nice one on the right-side that says ' What do you need?' and the irritated one on the left that says, 'This is garbage!'   Picking 'This is garbage!' results in Shepard saying the line I listed in my previous post ('Dammit Liara, I came to talk to you, not help with your petty vendettas').  Liara responds, 'I'm so close, Shepard.  I have been hunting for two years now.  I can't do this without you.'

If you look at this video around the 6 minute mark you can see this dialog.

[JPfanner]

Unata wrote...
I think they want you to take her mentioning that she's sure her office is bugged to heart and not get into anything that anyone else could use? atleast that's how I took it and would allow for one set of dialog options to both those that did and did not romance her.

Does seem so empty though even for "just a friend".

Unless it is being bugged by the "Love Police" then it makes no sense because Liara and Shepard discuss everything and anything except the relationship.  They talk about the Collectors, Cerberus, the Shadow Broker, Liara leaving her systems vulnerable for hacking, killing the Observer, and then Liara calls her secretary into the office and they fight to the death right there.
Seriously, the ONLY thing not discussed is the relationship.  Even if those Love Police were listening in, there is still no reason for Shepard to be able to be a total ass and not to be a supportive friend.

[AndroLeonidas]

I was bored so I went searching for Liara. Found some pics on Deviantart...

Don't want to post them without having to get their permission so I'll do the links instead. Forgive me if they have already been posted as well.

shadowcat1001.deviantart.com/art/Liara-Tsoni-as-in-ME2-154190388

creid-x.deviantart.com/art/Liara-2-119495389

cheeseboy18193.deviantart.com/art/Asari-Liara-71406757

This one is for all you femsheps out there.

the-other-mike.deviantart.com/art/Rest-and-Relaxation-97684132

ranka-mei.deviantart.com/art/Connection-136302900

Don't know if this would really fly but I'll flag it anyway. Liara's booty... but the wrong person in front.

mrorbital.deviantart.com/art/ME-Commission-IV-155676933


Ok... enough for now. That last one with Ashley.. there's quite a few more. Just doesn't seem right though considering how she feels about aliens.

Enjoy