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Okay, I must be missing them.  Then again, after buying the star charts and finishing her side quest, you don't have to get into earshot of them again... which I'm not sure is such a bad thing, as my Shep would be just a little tempted to test out her grapefruit spoon on them.  Or find a coffee cup (my next playthrough will be as an Adept, I'm pretty sure -- maybe I can give LiLi pointers?  "Got to hit them just right, like so...").

On a side note, I find it kind of funny that Shiala's sidequest is a little difficult to find in Prima's guide at first because it doesn't specify Shiala by name.  I mean, I know she's technically killable, but it's probably the most insanely Renegade thing to do... you practically have to be playing a pure Renegade character to have that happen, in which case, Zhu's Hope is probably dead, anyway.  (Not saying ANYTHING about her supposed attraction.  Flattered, not tempted, movin' on :P.)

But yeah, I'd actually like a Liara DLC to have a conversation in the bar at the end, have Aethyta looking on knowingly from a distance just to keep us guessing, and just ... let us talk  a little with our LiLi, y'know?


I know! I've only played ME2 with my DudeShep so far, and Gianna kisses Shep on the cheek right underneath Liara's office! Gutsy woman! And then you have Shiala getting all lovey dovey with Shepard too. I'd hate to think that Liara would worry she's got competition now, she's my one and only.

I really do want the option to talk to Liara some more. It's heartbreaking that you can visit her office at any time, and not say anything intimate to her at all. I just want Shep to lean forward, the pair of them to grab each other's hands, stare into each others eyes and just talk. /sigh I want to show LiLi some love! :wub:

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JaylaClark wrote...
On a side note, I find it kind of funny that Shiala's sidequest is a little difficult to find in Prima's guide at first because it doesn't specify Shiala by name.  I mean, I know she's technically killable, but it's probably the most insanely Renegade thing to do... you practically have to be playing a pure Renegade character to have that happen, in which case, Zhu's Hope is probably dead, anyway.  (Not saying ANYTHING about her supposed attraction.  Flattered, not tempted, movin' on :P.)

Barely anything from an import is mentioned in the guide.  I think there is a textbox during the evacuation saying you'll get Liara if you romanced her, a textbox saying you'll get Wrex instead of Wreav if he's alive, and a textbox saying you'll get whomever didn't die on Virmire for Horizon.  Probably something about the Council composition, but I don't have the guide myself and was just looking at someone else's.  And that's it. 
No mention of the picture in your cabin, the kiss on Illium, the rachni queen agent, Gianna, Conrad Verner, or Shiala.  The guide doesn't mention any of those import people or quests at all.  The only reason the Feros colony one is there is because you get a scrub colonist for it instead of Shiala for sociopathic lazy default non-import Shepard.

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JaylaClark wrote...
On a side note, I find it kind of funny that Shiala's sidequest is a little difficult to find in Prima's guide at first because it doesn't specify Shiala by name.  I mean, I know she's technically killable, but it's probably the most insanely Renegade thing to do... you practically have to be playing a pure Renegade character to have that happen, in which case, Zhu's Hope is probably dead, anyway.  (Not saying ANYTHING about her supposed attraction.  Flattered, not tempted, movin' on :P.)

Barely anything from an import is mentioned in the guide.  I think there is a textbox during the evacuation saying you'll get Liara if you romanced her, a textbox saying you'll get Wrex instead of Wreav if he's alive, and a textbox saying you'll get whomever didn't die on Virmire for Horizon.  Probably something about the Council composition, but I don't have the guide myself and was just looking at someone else's.  And that's it. 
No mention of the picture in your cabin, the kiss on Illium, the rachni queen agent, Gianna, Conrad Verner, or Shiala.  The guide doesn't mention any of those import people or quests at all.  The only reason the Feros colony one is there is because you get a scrub colonist for it instead of Shiala for sociopathic lazy default non-import Shepard.


Yeah, I almost get the feeling that the writer didn't have a valid save to work with.  I actually stopped to check who wrote it, and while the first guide was three different people, the ME2 guide was written by Catherine Browne, who I remember by name because she made a point of creating a self-sim for the Sims 3 guide, with the immortal line "YES these are all positive traits, but hey, I've let you see me in a bikini, I think I'm entitled".  That explains why it's a JaneShep in all the illustrations, for one thing, but I also think it could explain why there's less carryover details.  The textboxes could be later edits, even.

Still, just hearing the description of what Renegade Shepard does to Shiala and how Shiala just accepts it... hell, I couldn't see myself doing that in front of Wrex, or Ashley, let alone LiLi.

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High res version of one of my favourite Liara pics. I think her face is just adorable here:



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High res version of one of my favourite Liara pics. I think her face is just adorable here:

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Liara bubble pic, love that one.:wub:
(Love em all actually.):wub:<3

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I make a lousy Renegade, even on the one character I tried to I could NOT bring myself to shoot Shiala, think it's because she's Asari, I'm enamored with them :) some Renegade options are easy but not those types.

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I make a lousy Renegade, even on the one character I tried to I could NOT bring myself to shoot Shiala, think it's because she's Asari, I'm enamored with them :) some Renegade options are easy but not those types.

How about Rana Thanoptis?

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

High res version of one of my favourite Liara pics. I think her face is just adorable here:

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Liara bubble pic, love that one.:wub:
(Love em all actually.):wub:<3


The very first time I hit that part of the story I stood and stared at her for a good 5 min or more, I was smitten Image IPB

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Somebody1003 wrote...

Unata wrote...

I make a lousy Renegade, even on the one character I tried to I could NOT bring myself to shoot Shiala, think it's because she's Asari, I'm enamored with them :) some Renegade options are easy but not those types.

How about Rana Thanoptis?


Nope can't kill her either, told you, I'ma lousy Renegade.Image IPB

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Unata wrote...

I make a lousy Renegade, even on the one character I tried to I could NOT bring myself to shoot Shiala, think it's because she's Asari, I'm enamored with them :) some Renegade options are easy but not those types.

How about Rana Thanoptis?


Nope can't kill her either, told you, I'ma lousy Renegade.Image IPB

How about the Rachni Queen?

I always kill her, even when Im paragon.:unsure:

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Still, just hearing the description of what Renegade Shepard does to Shiala and how Shiala just accepts it... hell, I couldn't see myself doing that in front of Wrex, or Ashley, let alone LiLi.

Yeah, I've only ever seen that scene when I watched the "Commander Shepard is a jerk" video on Youtube. It'd be especially horrible to do with Liara there, because she probably spent her entire childhood growing up with Shiala around.  ME1 was really good at having context specific conversations, so it always stood out there wasn't some between Liara and Shiala.

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Somebody1003 wrote...

Unata wrote...

Somebody1003 wrote...

Unata wrote...

I make a lousy Renegade, even on the one character I tried to I could NOT bring myself to shoot Shiala, think it's because she's Asari, I'm enamored with them :) some Renegade options are easy but not those types.

How about Rana Thanoptis?


Nope can't kill her either, told you, I'ma lousy Renegade.Image IPB

How about the Rachni Queen?

I always kill her, even when Im paragon.:unsure:


I did on two of my characters just to see what happens later, but after the Asari in Illium gave me the message from her, I felt she and her "children" will play an important part in ME3.

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Unata wrote...

Somebody1003 wrote...

Unata wrote...

Somebody1003 wrote...

Unata wrote...

I make a lousy Renegade, even on the one character I tried to I could NOT bring myself to shoot Shiala, think it's because she's Asari, I'm enamored with them :) some Renegade options are easy but not those types.

How about Rana Thanoptis?


Nope can't kill her either, told you, I'ma lousy Renegade.Image IPB

How about the Rachni Queen?

I always kill her, even when Im paragon.:unsure:


I did on two of my characters just to see what happens later, but after the Asari in Illium gave me the message from her, I felt she and her "children" will play an important part in ME3.

Yeah, but I just cant bring myself to trust a giant bug.:pinched:

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Liara's dance moves in ME1 were hypnotic, so sexy! For such a shy girl, she sure knows how to dance!



That’s one thing they really need to bring back in ME3. I don’t know why they dropped it out of ME2. Every LI could have had their own dance in ME2, there are dance floors everywhere, but no… I don’t really understand Bioware’s thinking on this, was it really too hard? I don’t think so. Lazy maybe.

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Liara's dance moves in ME1 were hypnotic, so sexy! For such a shy girl, she sure knows how to dance!



That’s one thing they really need to bring back in ME3. I don’t know why they dropped it out of ME2. Every LI could have had their own dance in ME2, there are dance floors everywhere, but no… I don’t really understand Bioware’s thinking on this, was it really too hard? I don’t think so. Lazy maybe.


I thought this odd also, since there are "dancers" all over the galaxy getting into the music/beat but our Shep forgot how to dance? It does how ever keep me from lingering around dance floors in ME2 Image IPB

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Definitely want to see Liara come back.

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I'm running yet another Shepard through ME1, have many of you waited to rescue Liara so she thinks that Shepard and the squad are hallucinations? I laughed so hard over the extra dialog.

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I'm running yet another Shepard through ME1, have many of you waited to rescue Liara so she thinks that Shepard and the squad are hallucinations? I laughed so hard over the extra dialog.

I could never wait to get The Beautiful Blue Goddess, my absolute first mission has and always will be, to get her off of Therum. :wub:

I have never made a Shep who didn't romance anyone, I always romance Liara no matter what. :wub:
Those other FemShep LIs can go screw themselves.

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Unata wrote...

I'm running yet another Shepard through ME1, have many of you waited to rescue Liara so she thinks that Shepard and the squad are hallucinations? I laughed so hard over the extra dialog.

I could never wait to get The Beautiful Blue Goddess, my absolute first mission has and always will be, to get her off of Therum. :wub:

I have never made a Shep who didn't romance anyone, I always romance Liara no matter what. :wub:
Those other FemShep LIs can go screw themselves.



There's one on youtube, not the options I'd choose in the conversation but it does show how humorus it all is, I did it once awhile back just to see it, should frap it Image IPB



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Shadowcat101 wrote...

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Liara's dance moves in ME1 were hypnotic, so sexy! For such a shy girl, she sure knows how to dance!



That’s one thing they really need to bring back in ME3. I don’t know why they dropped it out of ME2. Every LI could have had their own dance in ME2, there are dance floors everywhere, but no… I don’t really understand Bioware’s thinking on this, was it really too hard? I don’t think so. Lazy maybe.


Liara was a sexy dancer, I miss dancing with her.

And I always figured you could go dancing with your LI from ME2...I always stayed faithful, so I never got to try it out. That seems odd. There are dance floors and places to click "Dance" just like in Flux. BioWare is getting really lazy.

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Shepard really sucks at dancing in ME2. Especially if your Shep is a female, like mine. She just dances like a dude, why can't she dance like the rest of the human girls and asari in the VIP section of Afterlife? P.S. Liara's still the best dancer out there. Ashley/Kaidan suck at it, and so does Doran (lol!). I'd rather have Liara dancing than that Asari on that tabletop anyday!

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oh i just realized something. if Liara is recruitable, ME3/ME2DLC, will she get her own distinct armor?

i know with Kaiden/Ash-they had their pink/black armor...

With Liara since she was humanoid she didn't really have her own style in ME1... maybe she will be fighting in a dress like Benzia? (not that style ew, but a dress LOL) thoughts?

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Sakhalin wrote...

Shepard really sucks at dancing in ME2. Especially if your Shep is a female, like mine. She just dances like a dude, why can't she dance like the rest of the human girls and asari in the VIP section of Afterlife? P.S. Liara's still the best dancer out there. Ashley/Kaidan suck at it, and so does Doran (lol!). I'd rather have Liara dancing than that Asari on that tabletop anyday!


Shepard has always sucked at dancing, it's really sad. I too wish you could dance as good as the ravers in ME2.

Hopfuly we'll get lapdances from Liara in our cabin after her DLC is over and she moves in with us on the Normany. The bed in Shepard's cabin is big enough for two, but only if it's Liara. :wub:

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Sakhalin wrote...

Shepard really sucks at dancing in ME2. Especially if your Shep is a female, like mine. She just dances like a dude, why can't she dance like the rest of the human girls and asari in the VIP section of Afterlife? P.S. Liara's still the best dancer out there. Ashley/Kaidan suck at it, and so does Doran (lol!). I'd rather have Liara dancing than that Asari on that tabletop anyday!


They did change all of the dancing in ME2 really, I don't recall seeing anyone anywhere dancing as they did in ME1, the Afterlife VIP gals are ok, sort of reminds me of Saturday Night Fever though, most of the hired dancers all do that same sort of thing Kelly will do for you onboard ship.

I loved watching my Shep and Liara in Flux, I probably would have saved the galaxy sooner if there wasn't a dance floor there Image IPB

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oh i just realized something. if Liara is recruitable, ME3/ME2DLC, will she get her own distinct armor?
i know with Kaiden/Ash-they had their pink/black armor...
With Liara since she was humanoid she didn't really have her own style in ME1... maybe she will be fighting in a dress like Benzia? (not that style ew, but a dress LOL) thoughts?


She'd probably have something simular to what she wore in Redemption I'd think.

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