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[Little Mama]

4 days away from the thread and the BBG (awakening playtrough + some other things) and I dont know how many new pages. enoth for me to not have neither time or patience to read trough thorough so i just jump right back in...
new page = new pic

Modifié par Little Mama, 22 mars 2010 - 02:01 .

[ratzerman]

justinnstuff wrote...

Shepard and Liara - Lovers

Oh wow, that's :wub:

Yeah.... that says it all, doesn't it? 

Welcome back!

[morrie23]

Little Mama wrote...

4 days away from the thread and the BBG (awakening playtrough + some other things) and I dont know how many new pages. enoth for me to not have neither time or patience to read trough thorough so i just jump right back in...
new page = new pic

I've always liked this pic. Does anybody else think it makes her look a bit er.. top heavy?

[Marcin K]

Little Mama wrote...

nice pic, haven't seen this one for some time

General Stubbs wrote.... I love the Beautiful Blue Goddess with all my heart. :wub:<3<3:wub:

oh yea,all the way i love her:wub::wub:<3<3<3<3<3

Modifié par Marcin R, 22 mars 2010 - 02:22 .

[JPfanner]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Shadowcat101 wrote...
Yeah, that is nice. But one thing I don’t get, Why is Shepard often a female in fan art?

Personal preference I'd imagine, Shadow. Alot of people think Shepard's character works alot better as a woman, or prefer Jennifer Hale's voice acting.

I have to say, up until now I've only ever played my DudeShep profile. I started my first ever FemShep game recently, and I think I'm in the group that prefers Shepard as a woman, I think I like the character better that way.

MDK's Liara art really is incredible. He makes her look even more beautiful, if that were even possible!

That drawing is very nice. I honestly find it really difficult to pay much attention to art or even screenshots with Maleshep in them (not making any kind of criticism of anyone, just sharing my own feelings). My Femsheps have different hairstyles and colors and they're all Liarasexual, so it isn't that hard to get some extra personal meaning from pretty much any pciture of a Femshep and Liara. If there is a Maleshep around, my eyes keep wandering back to them and I think "Who is that and what are they doing with my Liara!"

Femshep is just really awesome on Tuchanka, especially if you let your hair down a bit and pick some Renegade stuff like headbutting that Krogan. It was kind of like being a science fiction version of Red Sonja where you're the biggest badass warrior on a planet full of of them.

Really both games are pretty empowering from that point of view, there are very few instances where Femsheps are treated differently because of being a woman. Even with being Paragon, I always smile evilly when Garrus is beating the living crap out of Harkin because of what Harkin says to you in ME1. Then I let Garrus shoot him in the leg and love when Shepard says, "You're lucky, I would have shot you in the head."

Modifié par JPfanner, 22 mars 2010 - 02:36 .

[elitextrem3]

So I've been thinking, what do you guys think are going to be the consequences for cheating on the ME 1 LI. My main Shepard stayed loyal to Liara in my first and second play through. Now on my fourth try I decided to experiment a little bit. I destroyed the heretics, kept the collector base and I couldn't pass up on the oportunity to see a Jack vs Liara biotic catfight in ME 3. I'm sorry BBG. Maybe I'll be plesantly surprise with a thresome, you never know.


So what do you guys think it will happen. Will it be another lame-o and calm conversation like in Mass Effect or will their be serious consequences. I'm hoping for some heavy and serious stuff. I'm planning on getting back with Liara and blowing up Jack, I'm hoping she goes crazy and start killing people if not then the whole serious consequences stuff will be just another lie by Bioware.


Anyway I will always choose the Beautiful Blue Goddess to be next to my Shepard, side by side.

[jlb524]

elitextrem3 wrote...


So what do you guys think it will happen. Will it be another lame-o and calm conversation like in Mass Effect or will their be serious consequences. I'm hoping for some heavy and serious stuff. I'm planning on getting back with Liara and blowing up Jack, I'm hoping she goes crazy and start killing people if not then the whole serious consequences stuff will be just another lie by Bioware.

I don't think these confrontations will be unique depending on the characters involved.  You'll just get a generic confrontation scene.  This is due in large part to the sheer number of possible romance confrontations that would exist.  I think Jack and Liara will confront you, you'll pick one, the one you pick will continue as your LI and the one you do not pick will stop talking to you.  Therefore, the Liara/Jack confrontation scene will be the same as the Liara/Miranda one and the Ashley/Jack one, etc..  This is assuming these ladies will even be around and in your party....if not this might even happen over email

[bjdbwea]

There will be no consequences to speak of. Reason: They don't "waste" time to put things into the game that only old players will see. Everything that mattered from ME 1, made no actual difference in ME 2. It was just service for the fans (at least that), but it was all very shallow and in the end meaningless. So IF (hopefully) you can continue the ME 1 romances in any meaningful way in ME 3, it will also be available for new players, and will play out the same regardless. At most, there would be a conversation where she confronts you with it and you can either make up or break up. From there, it will be exactly the same.

That is, if BioWare doesn't for whatever reasons change their approach back to the one they had up to DA:O. But I don't see that happening with EA in control.

By the way, that picture? Very nice, and still very tasteful. Kind of like the love scenes that BioWare implemented before that disgrace of a media campaign against ME 1 that made them change their minds.

Modifié par bjdbwea, 22 mars 2010 - 03:30 .

[bjdbwea]

Somebody1003 wrote...

If the ME1 romances are availible to new players in ME3 then they at least should make it better for those of us that did the romance in ME1, otherwise whats the point?

The point is to make money. As it stands, they could just as well scrap the romances altogether or again introduce completely new ones. The game would still get stellar reviews (I still laugh about ME 2 being the highest rated BioWare game ever), and it would sell. So if they actually provide a meaningful - that's the important word - continuation and conclusion of the ME 1 romances, I will be content with that. If there's even any resolve to the loyal / cheating angle, it should be appreciated. I know I would prefer that to a "continuation" available only to old players like in ME 2. This is not the old BioWare anymore, where you could have higher expectations.

Modifié par bjdbwea, 22 mars 2010 - 03:37 .

[bjdbwea]

Liara prevents me from killing the Rachni queen. Too bad for the heretics she isn't there in ME 2.

[jlb524]

bjdbwea wrote...

Liara prevents me from killing the Rachni queen. Too bad for the heretics she isn't there in ME 2.

During the heretic decision, you have to think to yourself, WWLD?  (What would Liara do?)

I rewrote the heretics.

[Nozybidaj]

jlb524 wrote...
I don't think these confrontations will be
unique depending on the characters involved.  You'll just get a generic
confrontation scene.  This is due in large part to the sheer number of
possible romance confrontations that would exist.  I think Jack and
Liara will confront you, you'll pick one, the one you pick will continue
as your LI and the one you do not pick will stop talking to you. 
Therefore, the Liara/Jack confrontation scene will be the same as the
Liara/Miranda one and the Ashley/Jack one, etc..  This is assuming these
ladies will even be around and in your party....if not this might even
happen over email [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/surprised.png[/smilie]

bjdbwea wrote...

There will be no consequences to speak of. Reason: They don't "waste" time to put things into the game that only old players will see. Everything that mattered from ME 1, made no actual difference in ME 2. It was just service for the fans (at least that), but it was all very shallow and in the end meaningless. So IF (hopefully) you can continue the ME 1 romances in any meaningful way in ME 3, it will also be available for new players, and will play out the same regardless. At most, there would be a conversation where she confronts you with it and you can either make up or break up. From there, it will be exactly the same.

That is, if BioWare doesn't for whatever reasons change their approach back to the one they had up to DA:O. But I don't see that happening with EA in control.

By the way, that picture? Very nice, and still very tasteful. Kind of like the love scenes that BioWare implemented before that disgrace of a media campaign against ME 1 that made them change their minds.

Pretty much this.  With the number of LI's now and the variablity in them I don't expect much more other than generic outcomes for everyone.  A handful of unique lines maybe based on the situation but overall I imagine a Shep that cheated will have a nearly identical experience to one that stayed faithful and the same with a Shep starting a new romance with these characters.

Taking all the choices into account and creating unique and meaningful outcomes based on them isn't something BW has shown they are willing to do up to this point.

[ratzerman]

Somebody1003 wrote...

Off topic but

Am I the only one here that killed the Rachni Queen and the heretics?
(And Im a paragon btw.)

I'm a paragon too, and I always saved the Rachni Queen.  I'm counting on her help in the 3rd game. 
I saved the heretics too, but I'm a bit conflicted about that decision.

[jlb524]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

If she finds out Shepard has been unfaithful and has trashed her, that might be it for her emotionally breaking down. I think that when she finds out, she won't go mad and try to hurt Shepard. Liara will just say very little, have an absolutely heartbroken expression on her face, quietly accept it and then walk away.

I hope you are right.  If they have Liara go nutso and try to physically hurt Shepard or the new LI, I will totally FREAK!!  That would be completely OOC for Liara.  I know some desire this because:  A)  They want to see a 'catfight' and have their ego stroked (which is the point of catfights I think).     They need a good reason to justify cheating on and dumping Liara (OMG!  Liara is crazy.... look what she did to Tali after I dumped her!!!   She soooo deserved it!!!!)