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jlb524 wrote...

Somebody1003 wrote...

Ashley gets a bit more... angry then Kaidan does. The thing I like about Kaidan is that he is cool and calm. Ashley gets angry that you are interested in an alien.

Oh, I've honestly never seen the Ash/Liara confrontation.

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jlb524 wrote...

Somebody1003 wrote...
Ashley gets a bit more... angry then Kaidan does. The thing I like about Kaidan is that he is cool and calm. Ashley gets angry that you are interested in an alien.

Oh, I've honestly never seen the Ash/Liara confrontation.

Well, Kaiden does have that one line where he pretty much says to Femshep, "Oh, I didn't know you were one of THOSE."  He doesn't say those exact words, more like "I didn't know you were interested in other women."  It's just the way he says it.

[Yeled]

Somebody1003 wrote...

Did anyone here get the Ashley/Kaidan Liara confrontation?

Or did you guys just tell Ashley/Kaidan off right away and keep the romance with just Liara from the beginning?

I forgot during my current ME1 playthrough that if you show Kaiden even the smallest bit of interest as him as a person he takes it the wrong way.  I tried to contain the damage at the end of the first dialogue with him, telling him that I like to get to know all my crew, but it didn't work.  He goes on about how he'd like it if we got to know each other better.

Just like last time through I'm going to have to tell him that I'm interested in "Dr. T'Soni" and there is nothing between he and I.  But, no, I never actually got to the confrontation scenes and don't plan to this time either.

[jlb524]

I like turning Kaidan down in the first dialog (right after recruiting Liara) because then when you then ask him about the mission and if he has intentions for Dr. T'Soni you can tell him, 'Don't get any ideas Lieutenant, I saw her first.'



I LOVE IT!!

[Yeled]

JPfanner wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

Somebody1003 wrote...
Ashley gets a bit more... angry then Kaidan does. The thing I like about Kaidan is that he is cool and calm. Ashley gets angry that you are interested in an alien.

Oh, I've honestly never seen the Ash/Liara confrontation.

Well, Kaiden does have that one line where he pretty much says to Femshep, "Oh, I didn't know you were one of THOSE."  He doesn't say those exact words, more like "I didn't know you were interested in other women."  It's just the way he says it.

That's impossible!  There were no f/f relationships in ME.  The Asari aren't women because they are "mon-gendered," even if mono-gendered means one gender not no gender!  Kaiden couldn't have acknowledged something through in game dialogue that clearly doesn't exist. 

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jlb524 wrote...
I like turning Kaidan down in the first dialog (right after recruiting Liara) because then when you then ask him about the mission and if he has intentions for Dr. T'Soni you can tell him, 'Don't get any ideas Lieutenant, I saw her first.'
I LOVE IT!!

I've never seen that one : (  Can you still "forgive" him for the beacon?  I guess I need to experiment a bit more, I try to shut him down, but I must still be too nice because all I get is the "mixed signals" line.

[Nozybidaj]

bjdbwea wrote...

I still have not fully discarded the theory that EA holds a grudge against Liara because of the media campaign against ME 1. I don't even know much about that whole debacle, but didn't they especially cite the Liara romance? EA doesn't like bad PR, like any company. We will see soon enough if there's anything to that theory.

You have a good point there and is something I've thought about previously.  The question is how much is it a drving factor coming from EA and how much is it just BW not standing up to protect their work/character?  Don't know the answer to that. 

I think it is more likely EA would have said said "no more nude scenes" and less likely they said "no more Liara", however if the decision was made by BW I could see them using an "out" with the current Liara story to remove the f/f romance option from the game.

That said, EA certainly does impose release dates, and which content to outsource into comics for example. Depending on when these decisions were made, there could just not have been enough time for the developers to do anything different. Plus, don't forget that the problems started way earlier. The decision was made not to produce an actual second part of a trilogy, but to make ME 2 a completely new game. I have little doubt that this would not have been the decision of the "little" people who actually worked on ME 1, and obviously cared so much about it. That the gentlemen in charge at BioWare don't care that much was obvious when they sold out.

All true, though while EA will certainly drive them to a release date I doubt they care much which content gets cut to make that happen.  I also would have doubts that EA is responsible for the gimmick of intrducing the suicide mission, though I suppose it could have come from them.  Whatever the case, it is clear that a "decision maker" somewhere along the line said "this shall be" and whatever the real sequel that the "little" people as you mentioned originally had in mind was lost.

But as far as I know, this topic isn't well liked in this forums, and it's already somewhat off-topic, so I'll leave it at that.

Meh, like I care what the forum does/doesn't like.  Besides its not like devs or mods actually read these threads.

[Marcin K]

Unata wrote...
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WHOA! THAT WAS BIGGEST THING I MANAGED TO MISS IN ME 1 despite trying to make this conversation happen it was nice one, and we all know the conclusion:

hehehe:)
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as for me i go OFFLINE for night to have a good rest, cos tomorrow we finally get SOMETHING MORE THAN A WEAPON for ME2 so i can't stand the waiting, so until tomorrow-cya all, and have a great night:)

[jlb524]

Somebody1003 wrote...

And then Ashley saying that she doesnt trust Liara, and wants to tease her about her sex life.<_<

Wish I had a renegade interruption there to tell her to stay away from Liara, or else!

I'd actually like to see Ash tease Liara about her sex life.  It would be cute.  Liara would probably get a little embarrassed.

I always tell Ash 'That's between you and her!' b/c I love it when  Ash gets the smirk and says, 'Hmm, scuttlebutt says otherwise.'

This is with a FemShep so I'm not sure if it's different with a male since Ash is also interested in you.

[bjdbwea]

Speaking about Kaidan. After rescuing Liara, you can ask him about an opinion. He will basically tell you that she's nice enough. Sometimes you can then reply like "don't forget I've seen her first".  I could never figure out why that line is sometimes available, and sometimes not.

[jlb524]

JPfanner wrote...

jlb524 wrote...
I like turning Kaidan down in the first dialog (right after recruiting Liara) because then when you then ask him about the mission and if he has intentions for Dr. T'Soni you can tell him, 'Don't get any ideas Lieutenant, I saw her first.'
I LOVE IT!!

I've never seen that one : (  Can you still "forgive" him for the beacon?  I guess I need to experiment a bit more, I try to shut him down, but I must still be too nice because all I get is the "mixed signals" line.

If you recruit Liara first (which most here probably do ) you need to talk to Kaidan and turn him down before asking him about the last mission (i.e., Liara).  When you ask him if he has intentions on Liara, he gives you the 'MaleShepard' response as opposed to the response he gives a FemShep who is still 'romancing' him.

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Yeled wrote...
That's impossible!  There were no f/f relationships in ME.  The Asari aren't women because they are "mon-gendered," even if mono-gendered means one gender not no gender!  Kaiden couldn't have acknowledged something through in game dialogue that clearly doesn't exist. 

Yep : )  I'm looking forward to hearing exactly what the PR explanation for Kelly is in ME2.  Maybe in the future all stripper/psychologist/secretaries are robots or something.

[HomicidialFrog]

yorkj86 wrote...

Somebody1003 wrote...
I was paragon and she just said that if I made her do anything against her code she would come after me.

If you speak with her frequently, explore all conversation options, and trigger her context-sensitive conversation "options"  (bring her to certain places), she'll tell you many things:

1)  Will return to help a Paragon Shepard
2)  Will be compelled to hunt a Renegade Shepard
3)  Will return to Omega to clean the place up
4)  Will no longer be bound to Shepard by the Code after the completion of her mission
5)  (Jokingly) Will clean up Tuchanka and teach the Krogan lessons in civility, using bullets

Actually, she says she wants to AVOID a Renegade Shepard. She obviously sees him as a good friend but her code compells her to kill him. Although she can pretty much apprantly try and avoid Shepard at all costs because she probally understands what he's doing is very important to the Galaxy and probally more bad than good will come out of Shepard's death.

Also, it isn't bad writing that Samara still likes Shepard. She's a Renegade herself, she kills without mercy and does whatever it takes so that the ends justify the means. Everything a Renegade Shepard is, minus the religion and the fact that Shepard kills civilians but only when nessessary. In other words, Shepard can't be evil, everything you do in this game can be justified somehow. Although picking Morinth over Samara might have been a little extreme because it has no justifcation whatsoever.



Samara will probally make  sure she'll never come into contact with a Renegade Shepard after the Reaper Invasion is over. And by the mistake that she does, Shepard will probally own her.

[Gammalfarmor]

**** guys, I need your help. In my main Shep I date Liara and Rex dies(lolmistake). Is it worth it to replay mass effect 1 just so that I date Liara and Rex dies?

[jlb524]

Somebody1003 wrote...

Wait, Ashley says that to femshep too?

She says the same to maleshep, and later will start to complain that Im talking to her and "my little blue friend on the side".
She just really hates the fact that she lost Shep to an alien.

Yep, she says that to FemShep right after recruiting Liara (as long as you've talked to Liara at least once before talking to Ashley).  I love that line from Ash.