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[JaylaClark]

AndroLeonidas wrote...

I was sifting through my old MP3s and discovered a song that I think fits so very well with Shepard and Liara. It's called Show me Heaven by Maria Mckee. It's from the Days of Thunder soundtrack so some of you younger pups might not remember that movie! lol! If you can find it give it a listen.

Ah yes.  Days of Thunder.  A supposed movie alleged to have been made about NASCAR that apparently bombed horrifically when it allegedly came out.  We have dismissed this claim.

(Okay, that was about as forced a Turian-Councilor gag as I could get.  I think.)

[scmadsen]

Liara is dreamy for sure.

[AndroLeonidas]

JaylaClark wrote...

AndroLeonidas wrote...

I was sifting through my old MP3s and discovered a song that I think fits so very well with Shepard and Liara. It's called Show me Heaven by Maria Mckee. It's from the Days of Thunder soundtrack so some of you younger pups might not remember that movie! lol! If you can find it give it a listen.

Ah yes.  Days of Thunder.  A supposed movie alleged to have been made about NASCAR that apparently bombed horrifically when it allegedly came out.  We have dismissed this claim.

(Okay, that was about as forced a Turian-Councilor gag as I could get.  I think.)

Wasn't making any suggestions as to the quality of the movie (does gag me to death sound right). Rather the song from the soundtrack.

I think it fits a Liara and Shep romance quite well.

[Lord Zeuss]

Good morning Liara thread, and greetings from the Ashley thread! Not here to troll, I promise. Just wanted to share a realization I had last night concerning the romances from ME1.



I think the reason I regard the Liara romance differently is because she loves Shepard unconditionally, regardless of whether those feelings are reciprocated. Whereas Kaidan and Ashley, as evidenced by the somewhat rocky reunion on Horizon, obviously hold Shepard to higher standards. Now I'm not here to make a case for one or the other (forever loyal to Ashley though I may be), I just wanted to share the observation.

[Lord Zeuss]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Hi Lord Zeuss. :-)

Thanks for stopping by. Yeah, we've all agreed on the fact that it seems that Liara loves Shepard, regardless of whether her feelings are reciprocated or not. Her "Because I couldn't let you go..." line that she says to even non-LI Shepards is evidence of this, as is the fact that it's canon that Liara is the character that goes out of her way to find Shepard's body and save him/her from being sold to the Collectors by the Shadow Broker, regardless of whether Liara is Shepard's love interest. The fact that she's terrified that Shepard will hate her for handing the corpse over to Cerberus is also evidence.

It leads me to believe that when I think Liara will be a squaddie in ME3 again, that new players will be able to romance her, as well as the continuing romance from ME1.

Also, I'd just like to say that I'm playing ME1 again for the first time in ages, and I've really come to appreciate both Ashley and Kaidan's characters, and realised that I missed having them around in ME2 as well. I really do hope and expect that the surviving Alliance soldier will be back in the squad for ME3!

You may have seen Indigowolfe around here recently. He's my brother, and sometimes seems to think I am at war with the Liara romance. ME: Redemption does make me *slightly* disgruntled, I will admit (dah durr Bioware canonizing things, fan bias, blah--he can tell you more if you want to know), but I am not actually in opposition to the Liara romance. I'm just a fan of a different one is all.

[Mighty_BOB_cnc]

Somebody1003 wrote...

She looks like shes pouting in this pic.

This one seems slightly peeved to me like "Oh geez Shepard, you forgot to feed your fish again?! >.>"

Just some sort of "Oh heck you're up to your shenanigans again Shepard?" type of dialog.  And then she huggles Sheppie because Lili can't stay mad.  :3
(Even though it wasn't really madness in the first place, just one of those "*sighs*" or "oh here we go again" moments.)

Modifié par Mighty_BOB_cnc, 23 mars 2010 - 12:45 .

[Haseeo]

Would like to see Liara return I think it'll happan what with you being able to remain faithful to her on the romance side.

[Deamon023]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Somebody1003 wrote...

She looks like shes pouting in this pic.

Aww, that's a great pic! Yeah, does look like Liara's pouting there. I think she has great lips.

[Unata]

Morning..Just went through the comic Redemption #1, 2, 3 again and I really don't like that Drell Feron much, no matter how close Liara gets to Shepard he somehow hinders it, intenionally or not.



*sigh*

[Lord Zeuss]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Lord Zeuss wrote...


You may have seen Indigowolfe around here recently. He's my brother, and sometimes seems to think I am at war with the Liara romance. ME: Redemption does make me *slightly* disgruntled, I will admit (dah durr Bioware canonizing things, fan bias, blah--he can tell you more if you want to know), but I am not actually in opposition to the Liara romance. I'm just a fan of a different one is all.

Heh, it's alright, there's no need to qualify your beliefs or anything. you prefer Ashley's romance, that's fine!

Regarding Redemption, realistically they had to have it that Liara is the character who recovered Shepard's corpse, due to the fact that either Ashley or Kaidan are dead, and putting either one of them in the comic would be "canonizing" the series. In the comic though, it's let sufficiently ambiguous so that Liara romancers can easily interpret it as Liara trying to save the life of her lover, and going through all of these hardships out of love. Or it can be easily interpreted as Liara trying to save the life of her close friend in Shepard. It's left ambiguous so it's open to interpretation, just like how Shepard's gender is never mentioned.

I do feel as well that Liara was given the comic and this role in recovering Shepard's corpse because BW see her as one of the most important characters in the trilogy, perhaps second only to Shepard, what with her role in finding Ilos, her actions as depicted in Redemption and the fact that she's the only squadmate guaranteed to be alive for ME3.

It is situations such as this where my objective and subjective opinions are in sharp contrast. On the one hand, there was literally no way for Bioware to do the comic without canonizing something and they were well within their rights to choose Liara, since they are the game developers after all. But on the other hand... well, I think you can guess where this is going.

I do rather think that Liara is Bioware's golden girl. Between all the characters in the ME universe, certainly all the companions, it seems like only Liara and Joker have zero chances of dying. And I think even Joker's status could change in ME3. But Liara? I think Bioware are far too attached to her to ever let her go.

[billywaffles]

As a love interest and important NPC, I agree.



As a squadmate, sorry, I'm not interested in having her again. Samara is far more powerfull and it is possible that Shiala (the green asari) will join the squad for ME3. That would be 2 asari in the team (Shiala being a Vanguard or something else and Samara/Morynth just a biotic powerhouse). Another asari would be just too much.



Don't get me wrong, I love Liara, but I don't really see her taking up arms again.

[scxenophobe]

billywaffles wrote...

As a love interest and important NPC, I agree.

As a squadmate, sorry, I'm not interested in having her again. Samara is far more powerfull and it is possible that Shiala (the green asari) will join the squad for ME3. That would be 2 asari in the team (Shiala being a Vanguard or something else and Samara/Morynth just a biotic powerhouse). Another asari would be just too much.

Don't get me wrong, I love Liara, but I don't really see her taking up arms again.

Both are dead, I guess I'm SOL eh?

[Yeled]

Lord Zeuss wrote...

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Lord Zeuss wrote...


You may have seen Indigowolfe around here recently. He's my brother, and sometimes seems to think I am at war with the Liara romance. ME: Redemption does make me *slightly* disgruntled, I will admit (dah durr Bioware canonizing things, fan bias, blah--he can tell you more if you want to know), but I am not actually in opposition to the Liara romance. I'm just a fan of a different one is all.

Heh, it's alright, there's no need to qualify your beliefs or anything. you prefer Ashley's romance, that's fine!

Regarding Redemption, realistically they had to have it that Liara is the character who recovered Shepard's corpse, due to the fact that either Ashley or Kaidan are dead, and putting either one of them in the comic would be "canonizing" the series. In the comic though, it's let sufficiently ambiguous so that Liara romancers can easily interpret it as Liara trying to save the life of her lover, and going through all of these hardships out of love. Or it can be easily interpreted as Liara trying to save the life of her close friend in Shepard. It's left ambiguous so it's open to interpretation, just like how Shepard's gender is never mentioned.

I do feel as well that Liara was given the comic and this role in recovering Shepard's corpse because BW see her as one of the most important characters in the trilogy, perhaps second only to Shepard, what with her role in finding Ilos, her actions as depicted in Redemption and the fact that she's the only squadmate guaranteed to be alive for ME3.

It is situations such as this where my objective and subjective opinions are in sharp contrast. On the one hand, there was literally no way for Bioware to do the comic without canonizing something and they were well within their rights to choose Liara, since they are the game developers after all. But on the other hand... well, I think you can guess where this is going.

I do rather think that Liara is Bioware's golden girl. Between all the characters in the ME universe, certainly all the companions, it seems like only Liara and Joker have zero chances of dying. And I think even Joker's status could change in ME3. But Liara? I think Bioware are far too attached to her to ever let her go.

I hope you're right, but the Liara fans certainly aren't feeling that way after how she was used in ME2. 

[Raanz]

billywaffles wrote...

As a love interest and important NPC, I agree.

As a squadmate, sorry, I'm not interested in having her again. Samara is far more powerfull and it is possible that Shiala (the green asari) will join the squad for ME3. That would be 2 asari in the team (Shiala being a Vanguard or something else and Samara/Morynth just a biotic powerhouse). Another asari would be just too much.

Don't get me wrong, I love Liara, but I don't really see her taking up arms again.

Did you actually hear something about Shiala?  If so, Liara and Shiala would make up my dream team.  Although, I do like Miranda.

[Lord Zeuss]

Yeled wrote...

Lord Zeuss wrote...

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Lord Zeuss wrote...


You may have seen Indigowolfe around here recently. He's my brother, and sometimes seems to think I am at war with the Liara romance. ME: Redemption does make me *slightly* disgruntled, I will admit (dah durr Bioware canonizing things, fan bias, blah--he can tell you more if you want to know), but I am not actually in opposition to the Liara romance. I'm just a fan of a different one is all.

Heh, it's alright, there's no need to qualify your beliefs or anything. you prefer Ashley's romance, that's fine!

Regarding Redemption, realistically they had to have it that Liara is the character who recovered Shepard's corpse, due to the fact that either Ashley or Kaidan are dead, and putting either one of them in the comic would be "canonizing" the series. In the comic though, it's let sufficiently ambiguous so that Liara romancers can easily interpret it as Liara trying to save the life of her lover, and going through all of these hardships out of love. Or it can be easily interpreted as Liara trying to save the life of her close friend in Shepard. It's left ambiguous so it's open to interpretation, just like how Shepard's gender is never mentioned.

I do feel as well that Liara was given the comic and this role in recovering Shepard's corpse because BW see her as one of the most important characters in the trilogy, perhaps second only to Shepard, what with her role in finding Ilos, her actions as depicted in Redemption and the fact that she's the only squadmate guaranteed to be alive for ME3.

It is situations such as this where my objective and subjective opinions are in sharp contrast. On the one hand, there was literally no way for Bioware to do the comic without canonizing something and they were well within their rights to choose Liara, since they are the game developers after all. But on the other hand... well, I think you can guess where this is going.

I do rather think that Liara is Bioware's golden girl. Between all the characters in the ME universe, certainly all the companions, it seems like only Liara and Joker have zero chances of dying. And I think even Joker's status could change in ME3. But Liara? I think Bioware are far too attached to her to ever let her go.

I hope you're right, but the Liara fans certainly aren't feeling that way after how she was used in ME2. 

Fear is the mind-killer. Don't lose hope.

[Yeled]

scxenophobe wrote...

billywaffles wrote...

As a love interest and important NPC, I agree.

As a squadmate, sorry, I'm not interested in having her again. Samara is far more powerfull and it is possible that Shiala (the green asari) will join the squad for ME3. That would be 2 asari in the team (Shiala being a Vanguard or something else and Samara/Morynth just a biotic powerhouse). Another asari would be just too much.

Don't get me wrong, I love Liara, but I don't really see her taking up arms again.

Both are dead, I guess I'm SOL eh?

Yep...since both Samara and Shiala could be dead, I doubt you can make a strong case for either being a squadmate in ME3.  In addition, neither have nearly so compelling a reason to be in the squad as Liara, or emotional resonance, or nearly as much story potential as Liara.

On the other hand...neither story potential nor compelling reasons to be in the squad nor emotional resonance were taken into account in ME2.  So I guess anything is possible.