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Débuté par Nozybidaj , févr. 18 2010 08:42

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Posté 23 mars 2010 - 08:09

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

I wonder if Liara misses her scientific studies during the events of ME2? We know that she hates what she's forcing herself to do in this role as an information broker, but I wonder if she thinks back to and pines for the days when she was just a mere archaeologist, studying her passion in the Protheans.


I hope so.  I'm sure that, in some way, the danger of being an information broker appeals to the sense of adventure of being an archaeologist, as she tells us that she would occasionally run afoul of bands of mercenaries.  I'm also sure that she learned to sift through vast amounts of information as an archaeologist, looking for inconsistencies and, most of all, the truth.  That must have helped her at least a little bit as an information broker.

Lastly, she went off on her own to be an archaeologist, instead of following in her mother's footsteps as a Matriarch.  She must definitely love her work and the entire discipline.

I think she wants to go back to those musty, old ruins, and I think she'd like Shepard to be there with her.  My Shepard would be there.

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Posté 23 mars 2010 - 08:15

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yorkj86 wrote...

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

I wonder if Liara misses her scientific studies during the events of ME2? We know that she hates what she's forcing herself to do in this role as an information broker, but I wonder if she thinks back to and pines for the days when she was just a mere archaeologist, studying her passion in the Protheans.


I hope so.  I'm sure that, in some way, the danger of being an information broker appeals to the sense of adventure of being an archaeologist, as she tells us that she would occasionally run afoul of bands of mercenaries.  I'm also sure that she learned to sift through vast amounts of information as an archaeologist, looking for inconsistencies and, most of all, the truth.  That must have helped her at least a little bit as an information broker.

Lastly, she went off on her own to be an archaeologist, instead of following in her mother's footsteps as a Matriarch.  She must definitely love her work and the entire discipline.

I think she wants to go back to those musty, old ruins, and I think she'd like Shepard to be there with her.  My Shepard would be there.


I just realized that Liara is basically the Asari Indiania Jones.

She kicks major ass in combat and is a genius when it comes to archaeology. All we need is her running away from a boulder and using a whip.

Wow, that list bit sounded dirty. :o<3:O

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Posté 23 mars 2010 - 08:16

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 new page so pic time:
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 i go OFFLINE for night, just finished reading the pages that came over previous night, so that's why i posted so little
have gread Liara-themed night all:happy:
P.S. I DO NOT RECOMMEND HAMMERHEAD! IN MY OPINION IT'S WORST THAN MAKO!!!!

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Posté 23 mars 2010 - 08:20

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

I wonder if Liara misses her scientific studies during the events of ME2? We know that she hates what she's forcing herself to do in this role as an information broker, but I wonder if she thinks back to and pines for the days when she was just a mere archaeologist, studying her passion in the Protheans.

Probably, she definitely doesn't like what she is doing right now.
I can imagine she feels a terrible emotional pain everytime she wakes up and goes to bed, from the guilt of what she has done and the grief of Shepard dying. :crying:
I am sure she find some sort of solace in thinking about the old days, when life was simpler and happier (she definitely thinks about Shepard all the time as well).

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Posté 23 mars 2010 - 08:23

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HomicidialFrog wrote...


I just realized that Liara is basically the Asari Indiania Jones.

She kicks major ass in combat and is a genius when it comes to archaeology. All we need is her running away from a boulder and using a whip.

Wow, that list bit sounded dirty. :o<3:O


Not Indiana Jones. She's the asari Lara Croft. Put her in really tight Bermuda shorts and hiking boots and make her jump cliffs and climb up ledges. She needs larger assets to be Lara Croft though.

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Posté 23 mars 2010 - 08:27

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HomicidialFrog wrote...

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I actually consider it impossible for the Liara DLC to be anything but substantial, BioWare would waste time and resources setting up a wonderful, emotional storyline for no reason. That is no how any company works.

Same thing in the J.P Morgan, FDIC, and WaMu Lawsuit, the Justice Department wouldn't have stepped in to protect WaMu shareholders if they didn't think it was possible, governments and companies do not try to attempt the impossible and waste resources.

I can't wait to be able to comfort Liara and help her, at the very latest, I would assume we would hear news in Redemption #4 or just after.
Liara needs all the love she can get and more (while also completely deserving it). :wub:<3


Actually, if all the Liara fans are satisified with the Liara DLC, imagine how the whole fanbase's customer loyalty would be to the Mass Effect series? We'd definatly be confident in them putting an awesome ending to the romance in ME3 because of what they did in a like, 7 hour length DLC.

I know all of us here would definatly be excited for ME3 if that happened. It would be a sound business move to make sure that the Liara DLC is awesome for the large fanbase we've picked up so far.

Hell, the Liara DLC will probally be their greatest DLC in terms of sales.

On the otherhand, if the Liara DLC is horrible, I can guarantee most of us here will probally not be excited for ME3 at all. Hell, we'd probally get it for the actual game and the main plot but the Liara romance will be disapointing as hell. And some of us won't get ME3 out of spite for what they did to Liara and I bet Tali fan's will be questioning themselves saying things like "Hey, I wonder if there going to do the same thing to us if Tali's the new most popular romance? I mean awhile ago Liara was the most popular and looked what they did to her!"

Thus some Tali fans might be expecting to be screwed over too. Sure, they probally won't but it could happen. And the Tali Fanbase probbaly consists of 40% of the people that have played Mass Effect.

Exactly. BioWare's financial guys and marketing guys have forseen this. The amount of emotions in Liara's situation confirm this.
If they didn't think Liara was profitable, they would have used another character. Just the fact Liara's entire story with Shepard is built around their great love for each other shows that they are going to make the DLC we want.
If they weren't, their financial and marketing guy's would have asked the CEO and developers to go in a different direction with the DLC.

As much as the Firewalker pack probably sucks, it isn't any indication to the Liara DLC being bad.
I don't know about anyone else, but I didn't think the Firewalker pack was going to substantial (what else are you supposed to do in a vehicle that has a big gun except shoot people?).

I have extremely confident in the Liara DLC being everything we want and anywhere between 5 - 7 hours long. <3:wub:
I love The Beautiful Blue Goddess so much. :wub::wub:<3<3:wub::wub:

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Posté 23 mars 2010 - 08:33

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General Stubbs wrote...


As much as the Firewalker pack probably sucks, it isn't any indication to the Liara DLC being bad.
I don't know about anyone else, but I didn't think the Firewalker pack was going to substantial (what else are you supposed to do in a vehicle that has a big gun except shoot people?).

I have extremely confident in the Liara DLC being everything we want and anywhere between 5 - 7 hours long. <3:wub:
I love The Beautiful Blue Goddess so much. :wub::wub:<3<3:wub::wub:


I'm just saying the track record isn't too good so far.  I hope, hope, hope you are right and I'm just an ass.

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Posté 23 mars 2010 - 08:40

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Yeah, like what Stubbs said the Firewalker pack shouldn't be used as an indicator of what the Liara DLC will be like. If you download content that consists of a tank with guns, then you expect it to be comprised of running and gunning shooting missions.



Liara's story, on the other hand, is built on a solid bedrock of emotions and deep character interaction, as well as her love for Shepard. Realistically, they can't not include some deep, emotional dialogue and tender moments in which Liara faces up to her demons and opens her heart after all the emotional pain she's suffered.

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Posté 23 mars 2010 - 08:45

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The pessimistic side of me still thinks Liara may only be the quest giver for this SB DLC mission. Her character interaction with Shepard would be no deeper from what happened in ME2. BW has yet to release an ME DLC that is deeply character driven. BDtS was just a sidequest. Kasumi is a new character, but she's not developed very deeply. Same with Zaeed.

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Posté 23 mars 2010 - 08:46

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The Hammerhead DLC today, made me really miss Liara, and that's all I'll say, so as not spoil it for anyone.

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Posté 23 mars 2010 - 08:48

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Am I the only one that hopes Shepard cries a little in the Liara DLC? Hell even if it's terrible that will instantly make it a 10/10 if it contains that.


Your typical stoic protagonist usually gives a HUGE emotional impact when they show there actually human under all that superhuman toughness. Any read AndroLeonadas's(Goddess I hope I got that name right.) fanfic? Something like that, where Shepard realizes pretty much everything Liara has been through is HIS/HER fault mostly. And a little bit of Joker's. And Liara's all blaming herself.

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Posté 23 mars 2010 - 08:49

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I'm not trying to be overly optimistic towards the possible benefits the DLC could bring to ME2

Anyway, I decided to put ME2 aside for a moment .

Maybe I will enjoy it more when all the missing content will be released .

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Posté 23 mars 2010 - 08:51

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At this point. I'm really worried, that any Liara DLC can't hold up to what we want. I'm ready to be really let down by BioWare, and be sad about the whole thing all over again.



I hope I'm wrong...but I'm losing faith.

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Posté 23 mars 2010 - 08:52

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HomicidialFrog wrote...

Am I the only one that hopes Shepard cries a little in the Liara DLC? Hell even if it's terrible that will instantly make it a 10/10 if it contains that.


Nope...I would love to see some Shepard tears!

scmadsen wrote...

The Hammerhead DLC today, made me really
miss Liara, and that's all I'll say, so as not spoil it for anyone.


OMG!  WHAT?!?  I'm not even going to play it, so you can spoil me over PM or something...

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Posté 23 mars 2010 - 08:55

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Putting a link to my post that sums up my thoughts before the topic is lost and falls off the first page. Rather then reposting it all here.  My post is on the second page.

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jlb524 wrote...

The pessimistic side of me still thinks Liara may only be the quest giver for this SB DLC mission. Her character interaction with Shepard would be no deeper from what happened in ME2. BW has yet to release an ME DLC that is deeply character driven. BDtS was just a sidequest. Kasumi is a new character, but she's not developed very deeply. Same with Zaeed.


I wouldn't say there's much chance of that, J. We know from the cut audio files that BioWare's original intention was to have Liara accompany Shepard on a mission against the Shadow Broker, and this was before the whole Liara/SB story was then released in the form of Redemption. If they've greatly expanded and revised Liara's story in ME2, then why would they cut back from their original intention of having her be a temporary squadmate? The whole arc has been expanded and revised, so I see no reason why they'd then DECREASE Liara's role from their original intention.

Liara's DLC may also have been developed concurrently with the rest of ME2, in fact I'd say that was likely. Therefore, I'd imagine that there would be alot more deep and character driven scenes and dialogue than in Zaeed or Kasumi's missions. It's very possible that Liara's DLC is just her full ME2 role, but they had to pull it back from the game so as not to spoil Redemption.

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Posté 23 mars 2010 - 08:56

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scmadsen wrote...

At this point. I'm really worried, that any Liara DLC can't hold up to what we want. I'm ready to be really let down by BioWare, and be sad about the whole thing all over again.

I hope I'm wrong...but I'm losing faith.


I'm actually gaining alot of faith.

After finding out how Liara, my favourite character in any story ever has turned into some cold, calculating crimeboss, it was really disapointing and shocking. Then I find out it's just a facade to keep the Shadow Broker from knowing she has an emotional side which gained a bit of faith that you can change her back in ME3, then I find out about the Liara DLC upon entering the Liara Fanbase, which uplifted it alot but not too much. Then I realized a few other things and since then I'm pretty confident Bioware won't let us down. Oh and if they do as I mentioned a few pages back I'll burn down 3 orphanages and I think someone else will be joining me.

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Posté 23 mars 2010 - 09:02

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Excellent post, scmadsen. Nail on fricking head. People just need to read between the lines when it comes to Liara.



By the way, could you tell me what happens in the DLC that makes you miss Liara? I probably won't play it either. PM me, like you did with J.

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Posté 23 mars 2010 - 09:06

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I posted about it in the fanclub.

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Posté 23 mars 2010 - 09:12

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Thanks, will go check it out now.



Just really looking forward to the Liara DLC now!

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Posté 23 mars 2010 - 09:17

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scmadsen wrote...

At this point. I'm really worried, that any Liara DLC can't hold up to what we want. I'm ready to be really let down by BioWare, and be sad about the whole thing all over again.

I hope I'm wrong...but I'm losing faith.

I am too.:crying:

The Liara DLC could end up being just a little mission with very little dialog like the ME2 reunion. Thats my worst fear.

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scmadsen wrote...

Putting a link to my post that sums up my thoughts before the topic is lost and falls off the first page. Rather then reposting it all here.  My post is on the second page.


It never occurred to me that maybe Liara had been pouring most, if not all, of the money she had been earning as an information broker in to the Lazarus Project.

That realization made me tear up.

Thanks for that.

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

I wouldn't say there's much chance of that, J. We know from the cut audio files that BioWare's original intention was to have Liara accompany Shepard on a mission against the Shadow Broker, and this was before the whole Liara/SB story was then released in the form of Redemption. If they've greatly expanded and revised Liara's story in ME2, then why would they cut back from their original intention of having her be a temporary squadmate? The whole arc has been expanded and revised, so I see no reason why they'd then DECREASE Liara's role from their original intention.

Liara's DLC may also have been developed concurrently with the rest of ME2, in fact I'd say that was likely. Therefore, I'd imagine that there would be alot more deep and character driven scenes and dialogue than in Zaeed or Kasumi's missions. It's very possible that Liara's DLC is just her full ME2 role, but they had to pull it back from the game so as not to spoil Redemption.

Im afraid that it turns out that the audio logs turn out to actually be in the Liara DLC.:crying:


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Yes, that was me. I said Id help you burn the orphanages and the children as well.:devil:

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Posté 23 mars 2010 - 09:22

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Well folks, just as a note to those of you who have followed my tales of Victoria Shepard and Liara. I am writing the final part of their story and I think it will end with a bang. Things have once again taken a turn for the dark, as of chapter 2, and while I likely am 100 percent off the mark as to where Bioware will take the story, I hope mine is compelling all the same.



Like I said, its dark so far. We are in a tunnel, but there is always light at the end. The story is "The Day the Sun Stood Still"

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yorkj86 wrote...

It never occurred to me that maybe Liara had been pouring most, if not all, of the money she had been earning as an information broker in to the Lazarus Project.

That realization made me tear up.

Thanks for that.


If that does turn out to be true, then that would be touching indeed. Very touching.

I think I'd somehow love Liara even more than I already do now.
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