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[jlb524]

Unata wrote...

The game takes place in the year (start) 2183, I would think that in 173 years people would get over same sex relationships stigmas, especialy since humans have run into a whole alien race that is just one gender, mono-gendered one at that, I would think the military would have just had the same rules of fraternizing within their ranks for either gender.
 

I'd hope so...but I think humanity could also be more discriminatory against same-sex romances after the discovery of (potentially hostile) alien lifeforms.  There might be an idealistic push towards increasing the human population for colonizaiton and for defensive purposes.  Thus, heterosexual baby-making relationships would be the ideal while homosexual ones would not.  These ideals, if propagated by human governments, the Alliance, etc., could lead to discrimination against homsexuals.

[AndroLeonidas]

jlb524 wrote...

Somebody1003 wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

Somebody1003 wrote...

I dont know why so many people here dislike maleshep.

In my mind, MaleShep is just boring.  The Male Space Marine thing has been overdone.  Plus, MaleShep can jump from female alien lover to female alien lover and that just seems too reminiscent of Capt. Kirk. (who is a douche).

My maleshep is faithful to Liara.:innocent:<3

Yours was but most jumped on Tali the first chance they got.  The possibility to be a galactic space pimp is still there for MaleShep.

I kind of like that FemSheps only have Liara (for a female LI, anyway).  It just seems more special.  At first I was peeved that there wasn't a new f/f romance option for FemShep in ME2 but this was more out of principle than myself wanting to dump Liara for another (never!!!)   Now, I don't care anymore because Liara >>>>>>>>>>> all who are not Liara.

Tali?? No... I remained faithful to my Liara as my imported male Adapt and was highly pissed off at the reception I got. Still remained faithful to her hoping that I could go back and talk to her after the mission. That didn't happen either. So now I remain faithful and wait for the DLC. Last chance for Bioware to make it right.

[WilliamShatner]

General Stubbs wrote...

Yeled wrote...

Somebody1003 wrote...

justinnstuff wrote...

Yeled wrote...

I think we need a Liara comic:

Don't you love elevators?

lmao

@somebody1003 - Tell me about it. I don't mind femshep but some of us have a dudeshep too 

Yeah, Id like to see malesheps once in a while, I feel like Im in the minority here.

First, Shepard is female!  I don't know why you guys keep refering to this "Ah yes, dudeshep.  I thought we had dismissed that claim." 

Second, femshep is infinitely cooler than any dude.  A strong woman kicking ass and saving the galaxy?  Fulf of win.

Third, "lesbian mind sex" is hawt. 

And fourth, and most importantly, if there were pictures of Liara with some dude, my mind would register that as Liara being unfaithful (which happens from time to time when I do see dudeshep-Liara art), and that makes me go .

Hell. Yeah.
I agree with all of that.

You know, I still give credit to BioWare for letting Shepard be a lesbian (even better, it is with Liara!! Whom is apparently asexual in Mr. Hudson's dream world, I am sure it is nice in there and full of asexual bunny rabbits and asexual rainbows), my characters never get romance otherwise.

Anyone else like that Bethseda will just go as far with your character being a lesbian as telling Amata, "I was just dreaming about you" Where she gets grossed out and shoots you down... Goddamn it, my character in Fallout 3 is so alone. I wish Liara was in there as well (except I wouldn't want her to be hurt by a centaur or radiation).

Yeah, no offense to Male Shepard fans but Female Shepard and Liara definitely feel like the right romance. 

Also have Bethesda ever had companions/romances?  I've only played Elder Scrolls IV and Fallout 3 and you couldn't really count the "companions" in Fallout 3 as "companions", just glorified loot holders.  I'm hoping Obsidian add real companions to the upcoming Fallout Vegas.

[AndroLeonidas]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

In my mind, MaleShep is just boring.  The Male Space Marine thing has been overdone.  Plus, MaleShep can jump from female alien lover to female alien lover and that just seems too reminiscent of Capt. Kirk. (who is a douche).


Random Liara pic!!

Yay!! She's beautiful!

She looks like she's pondering something, like she's really deep in thought.

Like J said, the Male Space Marine thing has been done to death, and FemShep is alot more interesting. Plus, FemShep kinda reminds me of Samus Aran!

Like how much she wants to jump your bones!!!

[Marcin K]

WilliamShatner wrote...

General Stubbs wrote...

Yeled wrote...

Somebody1003 wrote...

justinnstuff wrote...

Yeled wrote...

I think we need a Liara comic:

Don't you love elevators?

lmao

@somebody1003 - Tell me about it. I don't mind femshep but some of us have a dudeshep too 

Yeah, Id like to see malesheps once in a while, I feel like Im in the minority here.

First, Shepard is female!  I don't know why you guys keep refering to this "Ah yes, dudeshep.  I thought we had dismissed that claim." 

Second, femshep is infinitely cooler than any dude.  A strong woman kicking ass and saving the galaxy?  Fulf of win.

Third, "lesbian mind sex" is hawt. 

And fourth, and most importantly, if there were pictures of Liara with some dude, my mind would register that as Liara being unfaithful (which happens from time to time when I do see dudeshep-Liara art), and that makes me go .

Hell. Yeah.
I agree with all of that.

You know, I still give credit to BioWare for letting Shepard be a lesbian (even better, it is with Liara!! Whom is apparently asexual in Mr. Hudson's dream world, I am sure it is nice in there and full of asexual bunny rabbits and asexual rainbows), my characters never get romance otherwise.

Anyone else like that Bethseda will just go as far with your character being a lesbian as telling Amata, "I was just dreaming about you" Where she gets grossed out and shoots you down... Goddamn it, my character in Fallout 3 is so alone. I wish Liara was in there as well (except I wouldn't want her to be hurt by a centaur or radiation).

Yeah, no offense to Male Shepard fans but Female Shepard and Liara definitely feel like the right romance. 

Also have Bethesda ever had companions/romances?  I've only played Elder Scrolls IV and Fallout 3 and you couldn't really count the "companions" in Fallout 3 as "companions", just glorified loot holders.  I'm hoping Obsidian add real companions to the upcoming Fallout Vegas.

Liara is best option regardless of Shep gender
BTW.
GO Paragon Male Shep & Liara! [mine that is:)]
____
P.S.
sorry for wall post if you feel bad/offended by it, if not please disregard this message

Modifié par Marcin R, 24 mars 2010 - 04:15 .

[bjdbwea]

[JPfanner]

Unata wrote...
The game takes place in the year (start) 2183, I would think that in 173 years people would get over same sex relationships stigmas, especialy since humans have run into a whole alien race that is just one gender, mono-gendered one at that, I would think the military would have just had the same rules of fraternizing within their ranks for either gender.

I think that it is probably accepted as an equally valid personal choice legally and officially.  There is still room for personal attitudes, and there should be.  Technically, no one has an excuse for having any kind of sex aboard a military vessel.  Even the paramilitary situation in ME2, on the close confines of a ship that kind of stuff is just asking for trouble.
Really the problem for me in both games wasn't that the developers decided Ashley, Tali, Miranda, and Jack weren't interested in women, it was that they dictated Shepard sexuality by the dialog choices they provide.  Shepard isn't given the chance to express an interest in Ashley and be turned down.  But Shepard can hump Jacob's leg right from the start.  In effect they're saying who Shepard will be interested in.

[Marcin K]

 i see it's pic-time-page so i'm dumping some "borrowed" [wonder if you guess form who btw] pic too:

Modifié par Marcin R, 24 mars 2010 - 04:20 .

[WilliamShatner]

Somebody1003 wrote...

justinnstuff wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

Unata wrote...

The game takes place in the year (start) 2183, I would think that in 173 years people would get over same sex relationships stigmas, especialy since humans have run into a whole alien race that is just one gender, mono-gendered one at that, I would think the military would have just had the same rules of fraternizing within their ranks for either gender.
 

I'd hope so...but I think humanity could also be more discriminatory against same-sex romances after the discovery of (potentially hostile) alien lifeforms.  There might be an idealistic push towards increasing the human population for colonizaiton and for defensive purposes.  Thus, heterosexual baby-making relationships would be the ideal while homosexual ones would not.  These ideals, if propagated by human governments, the Alliance, etc., could lead to discrimination against homsexuals.

And that sounds like something humans would do. We can't just live and let live. I spare the council in all my playthroughs, I'd hate to see a human empire.

That would be terrible, and everyone would resent humanity.

One of the things I dislike about the books is the amount of pro-human editorialisation nonsense.

Aliens FTW!

[jlb524]

bjdbwea wrote...

[Unata]

I've always had the impression from the start in ME1 long ago that the Asari were a central part of the Mass Effect universe, BW did alot with them in mind not only with Liara but on the outskirts of the main storyline, strong characters throughout me1 and me2, Benezia, Consort, Nassana Dantius, Samara/Morinth and the whole world of Illos, with this in mind I have real hope for something special in either a DLC for Liara or in ME3.

I may be a deamer but the writing is there, or maybe I read to much into it....Naa

[Unata]

@bjdbwea, are you using a modified Coalesced file to get ship-ware on Shepard off ship?



Always thought it odd that your squad was the only ones running around in full armor and weapons a pleanty at main ports, that looks so much better.

[WilliamShatner]

Unata wrote...

I've always had the impression from the start in ME1 long ago that the Asari were a central part of the Mass Effect universe, BW did alot with them in mind not only with Liara but on the outskirts of the main storyline, strong characters throughout me1 and me2, Benezia, Consort, Nassana Dantius, Samara/Morinth and the whole world of Illos, with this in mind I have real hope for something special in either a DLC for Liara or in ME3.

I may be a deamer but the writing is there, or maybe I read to much into it....Naa

I truly disliked what they did to the asari in ME2.  They took the oldest, wisest and most revered species into the galaxy and turned most of them into gang members, scheming criminals, ****s or psychopaths.

No one is safe from BioWare's darkness obession.